Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Topic for another thread, but one day you'll have to explain why I never hear your "legitimacy" speech about baseball with crap like this going on.

I'm already addressing it in the proper Braun thread.

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Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

I get it also...but he took the money, but now wants to "go to a place he choses".

It's against all the basic principles....he took the cash, he knew the deal, so if a team like the T-Wolves want him to mentor Ricky Rubio or Mark Jax would like some experience in the GS back court, then that's the job he signed up for. He signed an NBA contract that says he can be traded and amnestied.

But now he's saying "i wanted the money AND i want to chose to go to Miami or LA and chase a ring".

But its not just him, its most of the selfishness that these players have been going on about

They want the money and the full say in where they go at the same time.
I know you'd say off the bat thats not so bad but it is when you don't fulfil your own obligations... They know there is a possibility of a trade when they sign the dotted line.

This is one reason they fought in the lockout so hard, but i've said my piece on this circus earlier.... its basically an out of control league when everybody is just allowed to do anything regardless of contracts or whatever

I just dont like where its going, and Billups should be like Sheed and just retire


Right now, Billups is no more special than anyone else. In a few years he'll be gone anyway and they wont be remembering him anymore

[JaySmooov]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

I get it also...but he took the money, but now wants to "go to a place he choses".

It's against all the basic principles....he took the cash, he knew the deal, so if a team like the T-Wolves want him to mentor Ricky Rubio or Mark Jax would like some experience in the GS back court, then that's the job he signed up for. He signed an NBA contract that says he can be traded and amnestied.

But now he's saying "i wanted the money AND i want to chose to go to Miami or LA and chase a ring".

Can't disagree.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Meh. Now that LA has completely destroyed team chemistry, you may as well ship both those guys out.

I wasn't overjoyed initially, and I don't know if LA is really that much better without a PF.

I do feel for Odom and Pau. Both of these guys embraced the city and the team like true professionals.

Odom and Pau should not be going to the situations they're going to IMO. They're not gonna really move the needle much in either of those systems.

[BlueNGold]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Soooo in other news, wtf are the Raptors doing?

Oh wait, being the Raptors.....

[The 24th Letter]

I do feel for Odom and Pau. Both of these guys embraced the city and the team like true professionals.

Odom and Pau should not be going to the situations they're going to IMO. They're not gonna really move the needle much in either of those systems.

Hey, they signed a contract. :-/

[ex carrabba fan]

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Hey, they signed a contract. :-/

I know I'm in the minority, but I don't really care what Billups said.

People comparing him to TO. Totally off base IMO. Billups wants to win, he wants to stay with NY. He has been jerked around his entire career.

Now with ALL that said, if he was so adament about playing with a winner etc. etc., why doesn't he just restructure his contract with NY so they can pay him a lot less, since he doesn't deserve all that money.

Overall, I don't disagree with his feelings. It's a stupid rule the way Amnesty is set up. The whole waiver system is just stupid. If they don't want LA or Miami picking off, then don't implement the amnesty in the first place. It's simply not productive to have a veteran like Billups go to Sacramento. It's just stupid on all sides.

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He can't restructure his deal though

Jerked around ?

Once he finally decided to play as a PG and not whatever he wanted, he won a ring, has made plenty of money and inked his name on contracts that he know included being traded

While I understand the human aspect, its his line of business... even greater players than him have been traded...

[J_Posse]

I know I'm in the minority, but I don't really care what Billups said.

People comparing him to TO. Totally off base IMO. Billups wants to win, he wants to stay with NY. He has been jerked around his entire career.

Now with ALL that said, if he was so adament about playing with a winner etc. etc., why doesn't he just restructure his contract with NY so they can pay him a lot less, since he doesn't deserve all that money.

Overall, I don't disagree with his feelings. It's a stupid rule the way Amnesty is set up. The whole waiver system is just stupid. If they don't want LA or Miami picking off, then don't implement the amnesty in the first place. It's simply not productive to have a veteran like Billups go to Sacramento. It's just stupid on all sides.

Ex, your a diehard so you should there is no restructuring of contracts in the NBA. Using the amnesty provision on him was the only way the could sign Tyson to his deal. There are other contending teams with cap space (Chicago and Oklahoma City) that can conceivably sign him. Denver could also use his serves if they move Andre Miller. Why does automatic need to go to either Miami or the Lakers to win championship???

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[King_B_Mack]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

If the food is ACTUALLY better at the carry out wouldn't you eat there? The Lakers name goes a long way but would you sign with them if the only talent they had was an aging Kobe and Odom?

Also Odom may not even be on the team next season.

Man I kinda wish the trade didn't get vetoed cause this whole thing is turning even the normal, cool Laker fans crazy. 4 of the Lakers starting 5 could be capuchin monkeys and people would still sign there. Not now or at no time EVER will the Los Angeles Lakers have trouble signing talent.

It's actually the opposite. Majority here feel the NJ package is vastly superior, especially with Odom seemingly off the board. I still don't know. A healthy Bynum is vastly superior to Brook Lopez in my opinion, Bynum is twice the rebounder and will be a force. The catch is the health, that's the risk. I dont think it's even remotely close barring health.

I think the Nets package is very good. Ultimately it's up to Otis Smith.

That's the problem with Bynum though man, DUDE IS NEVER HEALTHY. A healthy Greg Oden is probably better than a lot of centers in the league, but if somebody was talking about Oden being the centerpiece of a Dwight Howard trade this forum would be going absolutely ****ing nuts in dissing that deal and whoever was pushing it. You keep trying to make it like people are saying Bynum and these guys aren't assests or don't have value even though that's not what we're saying. Obviously they're assests and they have value, but the value you're putting them at (i.e. trying to make it like it's the best deal possible in the NBA) is wrong.

[ex carrabba fan]

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He can't restructure his deal though

Jerked around ?

Once he finally decided to play as a PG and not whatever he wanted, he won a ring, has made plenty of money and inked his name on contracts that he know included being traded

While I understand the human aspect, its his line of business... even greater players than him have been traded...

Yeah, that's the story of his career. He was stupid for saying something about other great players not being treated like this, but his overall message I don't disagree with. Yes he signed his name to a contract. We all know that.

I didn't know you couldn't restructure.

Ex, your a diehard so you should there is no restructuring of contracts in the NBA. Using the amnesty provision on him was the only way the could sign Tyson to his deal. There are other contending teams with cap space (Chicago and Oklahoma City) that can conceivably sign him. Denver could also use his serves if they move Andre Miller. Why does automatic need to go to either Miami or the Lakers to win championship???

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I didn't know about no restructuring, my bad. Yeah I know they had to amnesty him. What I meant with the LA/Miami reference is that those are the teams that structured the waiver system right?

[Drewski]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

When you lose on Chandler...

<s>@</s>MSteinmetzCSN: Warriors to sign DeAndre Jordan to 4-year, $40 million offer sheet SUN. No Biedrins amnesty

There's always a big man out there waiting to be overpaid. $10 mil a year?

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

When you lose on Chandler...

There's always a big man out there waiting to be overpaid. $10 mil a year?

Not surprising.

Meh, hopefully he'll be one of the exceptions that prove us wrong, lol.

[Drewski]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Not surprising.

Meh, hopefully he'll be one of the exceptions that prove us wrong, lol.

LoL, I guess that Clippers will match that, I'd be surprised if they didn't.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

What I don't agree with from Chauncey is trying to bring up the family aspect and having to move and all this other noise. If you're so concerned about being with your family and not having to uproot them and all this other stuff, then why are you going to Miami if given the chance? Go back to Denver? Half they're team is trapped overseas, I'm pretty sure they'd welcome him back. Dude's just being a massive dickhead and I actually like Chauncey.