Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Some selctive reading going on here....

I JUST said Big Time talents can afford to be loyal. Are CP3, Dwight, and Melo not considered top talents anymore? Come on now. I specifically said role players are expendable. Melo, CP3, and Howard are not role players. THEY ASK FOR TRADES. WHY? BECAUSE BIG TIME TALENTS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND...GUESS WHAT? People will still offer for their services. So it doesn't really matter what either of those players do. They can afford to be loyal OR not.

Gerald Wallace and Eric Gordon are borderline role players. Hell, maybe even "stars". The 2nd or 3rd options (In Wallace's case) on a good team. Neither should be the 1st option. Both were traded.

Tell me, why should they be loyal when they've done everything you suggested? They both shut up and play hard. They produce. Yet...they got traded.....

And...by your logic...they should be loyal....

See... I can do that selective reading crap too....

Edit: There. I bolded it for you so you couldn't possibly miss it...

So good role players who do the right thing don't get taken care of right? Randy Brown didn't get an opportunity as an assistant for the Chicago Bulls right? Guys don't get to come back to the organization as ambassadors, or front office guys or apart of their D-League affiliates or commentators or the like? Players know there'll be points in their careers where they'll be traded in efforts to improve the team, that's the business of basketball. Players are going to leave as free agents as well, that's the business of basketball. However leaving like a jackass and doing things that holds the team and fans hostages of these guy's egos isn't apart of that business, so flipping out because guys are sick of seeing players doing this stuff is pretty much as pointless as most of you guys feel those of us being upset about it is.

[RedSceptile]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

I think its time for an athlete to make staying with their own team popular. The crap that lebron did to the city of cleveland was classless. And building a superteam with his buddies wade and bosh may have hurt the league more than it helped. Now other stars are going to have to be on superteams in order to win championships. This is why I hope the great will never win a title with wade, lbj and bosh. Imo

Please stop acting like this hasn't been happening in the NBA (or hell in sports forever). The only difference here is the everyday man has more access to the media. Guys leaving to make super teams isn't something new. Stop acting like LeBron, Bosh, and Wade invented the wheel.

[BlueNGold]

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Now that they have Chris Paul... would you trade Blake Griffin for Dwight Howard if it was possible to make it work out if you were the Clippers?

Call me crazy but I'm gonna say no.

IMO Blake has that "drive" or "will to win" that Dwight seems to be lacking.

[JaySmooov]

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Please stop acting like this hasn't been happening in the NBA (or hell in sports forever). The only difference here is the everyday man has more access to the media. Guys leaving to make super teams isn't something new. Stop acting like LeBron, Bosh, and Wade invented the wheel.

How quickly they forget about the ORIGINAL Big 3 of this generation.



I hear no complaints about them joining up and winning titles. Then again, Ray Allen doesn't "Crab" dribble so I guess they get respect.

[Bondgirl0072]

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Paul: I want to see Clippers T-shirts in L.A.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7358246/crazy-competitive-chris-paul-wants-win-los-angeles-clippers

[BlueNGold]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

How quickly they forget about the ORIGINAL Big 3 of this generation.



I hear no complaints about them joining up and winning titles. Then again, Ray Allen doesn't "Crab" dribble so I guess they get respect.

*sigh*

For the hundredth millionth time......

There was a difference between what happened in Boston and what happened in Miami.

And just so we don't have to go down this effing road again, it's because Wade, Bosh and LeBron had a plan to join forces in Miami. LeBron might have said during LeDecision that he chose Miami on that day, but there's a reason him, Bosh, and Wade all signed shorter-term extensions that allowed all 3 of them to become free agents at the same time.

Boston, however, made trades for Allen and Garnett. It was strictly the front office teaming those 3 guys up, and not the players themselves plotting to do so.

I guess you can also throw in the fact you have older veteran players who have gone to war for their teams for around 10 years without having won a title compared to younger players who have gone to war for their teams, but haven't suffered for as long as the other guys or "paid their dues" or whatnot.

That's the difference. Some people may not feel as strongly about the whole scenario as others (myself being one), but it's been over-discussed for the past year and a half and it's tiring hearing about it.

[illwill10]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

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Celtics say Jeff Green will miss the '11-'12 season after having surgery Monday to repair an aortic aneurysm. He is expected to play 12-13."

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

*sigh*

For the hundredth millionth time......

There was a difference between what happened in Boston and what happened in Miami.

And just so we don't have to go down this effing road again, it's because Wade, Bosh and LeBron had a plan to join forces in Miami. LeBron might have said during LeDecision that he chose Miami on that day, but there's a reason him, Bosh, and Wade all signed shorter-term extensions that allowed all 3 of them to become free agents at the same time.

Boston, however, made trades for Allen and Garnett. It was strictly the front office teaming those 3 guys up, and not the players themselves plotting to do so.

I guess you can also throw in the fact you have older veteran players who have gone to war for their teams for around 10 years without having won a title compared to younger players who have gone to war for their teams, but haven't suffered for as long as the other guys or "paid their dues" or whatnot.

That's the difference. Some people may not feel as strongly about the whole scenario as others (myself being one), but it's been over-discussed for the past year and a half and it's tiring hearing about it.

Thank you for that. I guess he gets a pass on that though, he's only been here since May.

[BlueNGold]

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Thank you for that. I guess he gets a pass on that though, he's only been here since May.

True. I keep forgetting that, lol.

Anyways, like a great man once said, "If you don't know, now ya know".

[Drewski]

Wow

After an aortic aneurysm was discovered, forward Jeff Green will have surgery and miss the 2011-'12 season, Celtics say.



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[King_B_Mack]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Wow

After an aortic aneurysm was discovered, forward Jeff Green will have surgery and miss the 2011-'12 season, Celtics say.



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That sucks man. Hope he's alright.

On another note, appears the Pistons and Rodney Stuckey have agreed on a 3 year, 25 million dollar deal.

[DocHolliday]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

Now that they have Chris Paul... would you trade Blake Griffin for Dwight Howard if it was possible to make it work out if you were the Clippers?

No. I think Blake has more "Social Appeal" already than Dwight Howard. Plus he has an almost unlimited offensive potential. Dwight is peaked. He is an amazing post Defender and an extremely erratic score.

[23]

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No. I think Blake has more "Social Appeal" already than Dwight Howard. Plus he has an almost unlimited offensive potential. Dwight is peaked. He is an amazing post Defender and an extremely erratic score.

I dont think Dwight has peaked and I also dont think Blake will ever have the defensive presence that Dwight does

I thought it was a good question though because its something that could possibly net the Magic a real rising star to build around and probably not a better one out there they could get

Doubt the Clips even bother with trying that though

[ScoobySnax]

Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

According to two high-ranking Western Conference officials and a high-ranking Eastern Conference official, Nick Young is seeking an annual salary in the range of $9 million per season – and few teams have the funds or the willingness to pay him right now.

“I do hear his price tag is pretty high,” one Western Conference official said.

Young averaged a career-high and team-leading 17.4 points per game last season for the Wizards, the highest among free agent shooting guards.



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217626/Nick_Young_Seeking_$9_Million_Per_Season#ixzz1goW2 bq4z

Is he worth it? I think he's worth around $6-7MM personally. He has to get his rebounds and assists up if he wants $9MM. At 6'6", you gotta give me more than 2 boards a game. However, if Marcus Thornton got paid, I see why he's commanding what he is.

[WTF]

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After seeing the Wizards lack of scoring last night, I'd say that he's definitely worth $6-7M, and would probably go to $8-9M if last night were any indication.