Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[Drewski]

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I'm having a really hard time watching CP3 behave like this. He is under contract and don't officially have any say where he plays until he can opted out next year.

The league has allowed timhis to get ridiculously awkward. How can we keep Paul even through this season? Dude has been a class act up until now. His is about to damage his image beyond control and not only in Gulf coast region.

I dont get the "he shouldn't say where he will extend theory". Essentially you're saying free agency shouldn't exist. It's simple. If he doesn't want to play somewhere he hit's free agency. The issue with CP3 is not that he doesn't want to play for NO, at this point, but that the trade was made to some type of extent (this is what confuses me more than anything) and all of the sudden the league interfered stating "basketball reasons" but Dan Gilbert's letter lays it out. Surprise, surprise. Here's the new villain of the NBA so enjoy your time away Lebron.

I think the player should have say as to where he will sign a contract with. Otherwise he can just wait and go through free agency. If a team wants to sign a guy who costs X amount of cap, then they will simply have to trade their higher contracts for cheaper, more efficient, contracts that complement the incoming higher paid salary. It's business. But players should definitely have say as to where they will be signing with, and not signing with. They can't force CP3 to sign an extension with Boston. If traded, he would simply play there and move into free agency. This sounds like they lined up a trade and all they needed was word from Chris Paul that he would sign an extension, and he refused to give them that guarantee. Therefore, the "physical" and all that was lined up per-emptively at best, fell through.

How's that for spin.

[bostonchipster]

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RT @Happywalters Getting asked by our players if they can change their vote on the CBA today.


NO NO NO!!!

Can they do this?

[King_B_Mack]

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I'm having a really hard time watching CP3 behave like this. He is under contract and don't officially have any say where he plays until he can opted out next year.

The league has allowed timhis to get ridiculously awkward. How can we keep Paul even through this season? Dude has been a class act up until now. His is about to damage his image beyond control and not only in Gulf coast region.

Zero sympathy. We all (him included) just witnessed LeBron committ as close to image suicide as we could possibly see and Paul's doing stuff like this? How in the hell is going to Boston a bad deal for him?

[Hassan Darkside]

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I dont get the "he shouldn't say where he will extend theory". Essentially you're saying free agency shouldn't exist. It's simple. If he doesn't want to play somewhere he hit's free agency. The issue with CP3 is not that he doesn't want to play for NO, at this point, but that the trade was made to some type of extent (this is what confuses me more than anything) and all of the sudden the league interfered stating "basketball reasons" but Dan Gilbert's letter lays it out. Surprise, surprise. Here's the new villain of the NBA so enjoy your time away Lebron.

I think the player should have say as to where he will sign a contract with. Otherwise he can just wait and go through free agency. If a team wants to sign a guy who costs X amount of cap, then they will simply have to trade their higher contracts for cheaper, more efficient, contracts that complement the incoming higher paid salary. It's business. But players should definitely have say as to where they will be signing with, and not signing with. They can't force CP3 to sign an extension with Boston. If traded, he would simply play there and move into free agency. This sounds like they lined up a trade and all they needed was word from Chris Paul that he would sign an extension, and he refused to give them that guarantee. Therefore, the "physical" and all that was lined up per-emptively at best, fell through.

How's that for spin.

The thing is that he's not SIGNING a contract right now. He's NOT a free agent. He's still under contract, so therefore, since he put his name by that x on the line, he has no say in the matter until his contract is up. He shouldn't.

[Drewski]

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The thing is that he's not SIGNING a contract right now. He's NOT a free agent. He's still under contract, so therefore, since he put his name by that x on the line, he has no say in the matter until his contract is up. He shouldn't.

He doesnt. They can trade him. There's nothing stopping them from trading him to Boston. But Boston want's a guarantee, and Chris Paul is saying I will not guarantee anyone I will extend my contract and then go play with Boston for 3 years. I don't understand why he should have no say in that. You're telling me he has no say in signing a new, 4 year, deal with a team apparently designated to him?

New Orleans either trades him to a team that knows he has no intention of extending his contract with them, or they let him walk to become a free agent. Him giving them knowledge he will be leaving at the end of the contract, and not enabling them to maximize value for their asset as opposed to losing it, is a tremendous advantage.

[Hassan Darkside]

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He doesnt. They can trade him. There's nothing stopping them from trading him to Boston. But Boston want's a guarantee, and Chris Paul is saying I will not guarantee anyone I will extend my contract and then go play with Boston for 3 years. I don't understand why he should have no say in that. You're telling me he has no say in signing a new, 4 year, deal with a team apparently designated to him?

No, Boston was willing to rent him for a season with no guarantee, maybe hoping to woo him in the process. CP3 didn't say he wasn't going to sign an extension, he said that he wasn't going to show up to camp. That's bull**** imo.

[bostonchipster]

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Hearing rumors of players sitting out of practices in protest...ugh, $#1t$ about to get ugly

[rsnomar05]

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He doesnt. They can trade him. There's nothing stopping them from trading him to Boston. But Boston want's a guarantee, and Chris Paul is saying I will not guarantee anyone I will extend my contract and then go play with Boston for 3 years. I don't understand why he should have no say in that. You're telling me he has no say in signing a new, 4 year, deal with a team apparently designated to him?

New Orleans either trades him to a team that knows he has no intention of extending his contract with them, or they let him walk to become a free agent. Him giving them knowledge he will be leaving at the end of the contract, and not enabling them to maximize value for their asset as opposed to losing it, is a tremendous advantage.

No, Boston had reached a deal for him and were going to do it WITHOUT a guarantee. CP3 then said he wouldn't show up to training camp in Boston if the deal went through. So it simply isn't true that there is "nothing stopping them from trading him to Boston." In fact, CP3 is stopping them, and he forced them to accept a lesser offer from the Lakers.

Edit: Ruff Ryder beat me to it, but the point still stands.

[1Rose]

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No, Boston was willing to rent him for a season with no guarantee, maybe hoping to woo him in the process. CP3 didn't say he wasn't going to sign an extension, he said that he wasn't going to show up to camp. That's bull**** imo.

This.

10 char.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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And that would be the most ridiculous, stupidest thing they could do(not that I believe they'd actually do it anyway).

[hear me now]

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I dont get the "he shouldn't say where he will extend theory". Essentially you're saying free agency shouldn't exist. It's simple. If he doesn't want to play somewhere he hit's free agency. The issue with CP3 is not that he doesn't want to play for NO, at this point, but that the trade was made to some type of extent (this is what confuses me more than anything) and all of the sudden the league interfered stating "basketball reasons" but Dan Gilbert's letter lays it out. Surprise, surprise. Here's the new villain of the NBA so enjoy your time away Lebron.

I think the player should have say as to where he will sign a contract with. Otherwise he can just wait and go through free agency. If a team wants to sign a guy who costs X amount of cap, then they will simply have to trade their higher contracts for cheaper, more efficient, contracts that complement the incoming higher paid salary. It's business. But players should definitely have say as to where they will be signing with, and not signing with. They can't force CP3 to sign an extension with Boston. If traded, he would simply play there and move into free agency. This sounds like they lined up a trade and all they needed was word from Chris Paul that he would sign an extension, and he refused to give them that guarantee. Therefore, the "physical" and all that was lined up per-emptively at best, fell through.

How's that for spin.

Exactly,I'm sorry but some owners (Dan Gilbert)do have a slave master mentality.If a player wants to be a free agent and not sign back that is not avoiding their obligation.That is simply fulfilling your contract and moving on.

[Drewski]

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No, Boston was willing to rent him for a season with no guarantee, maybe hoping to woo him in the process. CP3 didn't say he wasn't going to sign an extension, he said that he wasn't going to show up to camp. That's bull**** imo.

Again, we're going off of speculative journalism and reporting. We get one side. You don't think that scenario is out of the question?

CP3 nixed the deal and threatened to not show up at camp

The only way he can NIX a deal is if he wasn't going to sign off on an extension in some type of form even if it's only verbal. Why would he show up to a camp where he wasn't signing an extension if the other side was under the notion he would? There's no specific information on what was being said one way or the other. Yeah, we heard they would be "willing" to rent CP3, but was that the deal that was lined up?

Someone source me saying the Celtics deal that was discussed, in this particular instance, didn't involve CP3 in some way, shape, or form nodding to the fact he would extend.

[sportzbro]

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From what's coming out, this is going to get very, very interesting (and ugly)

[Kashanova]

Andrew Bynum? Starting center? Yeah we drafted him as the youngest player in NBA draft history. Think we got two rings with him so far.

The two rings has a lot to do with getting your starting pg released from their contract and getting pau gasol for scraps and an Apple.

[Hassan Darkside]

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Again, we're going off of speculative journalism and reporting. We get one side. You don't think that scenario is out of the question?



The only way he can NIX a deal is if he wasn't going to sign off on an extension in some type of form even if it's only verbal. Why would he show up to a camp where he wasn't signing an extension if the other side was under the notion he would? There's no specific information on what was being said one way or the other. Yeah, we heard they would be "willing" to rent CP3, but was that the deal that was lined up?

I guess we can go off of speculative forum members instead.

Also, lol @ Danny Granger.