Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

[Drewski]

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The two rings has a lot to do with getting your starting pg released from their contract and getting pau gasol for scraps and an Apple.

Pau won rings in the front court without Bynum.

Oh wait.

Marc Gasol is hardly a scrap (oh another good draftee by the Laker. How funny is that, 3 of the Lakers starting 5 were DRAFTED by the Lakers!)

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Basketball Gods, I don't ask you for much...but for the love of everything, please, just PLEASE let me wake up tomorrow with some good news tomorrow. It's hard enough being a Nets Fan as it is but this is all I want for Christmas from you.

/tinytim

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Speculative?

This wasnt reported by Chris Broussard man, sorry

This is the exact kind of crap the CBA should be preventing

[Drewski]

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I guess we can go off of speculative forum members instead.

Also, lol @ Danny Granger.

Find me a source that claims that Boston didn't want some type of assurance from CP3 or "CP3s agent" that he would extend with them? Yeah we heard they were "willing" to do it without an extension, but we don't know one way or the other. Definitively.

[Drewski]

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From A. Sherrod Blakely (@SherrodbCSN)

"#Celtics were confident they were on the verge of landing Paul. Source says they were already planning a physical for him."

Reporters in Boston are getting word from the Celtics FO that the Celtics offered Rondo, Green, 2 firsts (including the Clippers pick this year), and Avery Bradley. The Hornets liked this deal the best, approved the trade, but CP3 nixed the deal and threatened to not show up at camp if he wasn't dealt to the Lakers. This lines up with Stern saying he didn't want CP3 to be able to dictate where he goes.

Also, to those upset who say the deal was fair in terms of the players NOH was receiving, that is not the issue. The issue is that NOH was having to TAKE ON $15 mil in salary to make the deal work financially for LA. So LA was shifting their bad salary cap situation onto a league owned team. This means the owners would be on the hook for that $15 mil, and they balked.

Where does it say anything about CP3 signing off, or not signing off, on staying with the Celtics past the end of his contract? If this is legitimate, then if anything, the Boston Celtics deserve the rights to CP3 and I'm perfectly happy with that outcome in these events. Otherwise I stand by the fact that we have no idea what kind of negotiating or positioning was going on behind closed doors, and until we hear definitive proof of one way or another, it's all a circus mess that has two sides.

[1Rose]

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Pau won rings in the front court without Bynum.

Oh wait.

Marc Gasol is hardly a scrap (oh another good draftee by the Laker. How funny is that, 3 of the Lakers starting 5 were DRAFTED by the Lakers!)

3? I count 2.

And you can't be serious. Bynum was irrelevant in both Finals wins. He had like 1 good game out of 13.

[rsnomar05]

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Why would he show up to a camp where he wasn't signing an extension if the other side was under the notion he would?

There is no excuse for CP3 not to show up to camp. If the Celtics thought he was going to sign an extension (and all evidence from the media suggests the contrary), then that's their fault and CP3 still has to show up and play for them. He can't use "well, I'm not signing an extension with them" as an excuse to not show up to training camp. He shows up, leaves at the end of the season and signs with whatever team he wants in FA. That's the mature thing to do.

[Hassan Darkside]

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Find me a source that claims that Boston didn't want some type of assurance from CP3 or "CP3s agent" that he would extend with them? Yeah we heard they were "willing" to do it without an extension, but we don't know one way or the other. Definitively.

There is also a small handful of teams that has informed the Hornets they are prepared to trade for Paul with no assurance that they can keep him beyond this season. That list, sources say, includes the Rockets, Boston Celtics and defending champion Dallas Mavericks.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7320941/chris-paul-new-orleans-hornets-traded-season-sources-say

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/2011_1208paul_wants_no_part_of_celts/srvc=sports&position=recent_bullet

Or do you want me to find a quote from Danny Ainge? Don't you think that there'd be reports that the Celtics don't want to gamble on him? It's not like trading Rondo was a spur of the moment idea, his name was being shopped around for the last few days.

[Drewski]

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3? I count 2.

And you can't be serious. Bynum was irrelevant in both Finals wins. He had like 1 good game out of 13.

Derek Fisher, Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum. Yeah Bynums D on Howard was completely irrelevant. As was his rebounding and efficiency in limited touches that clearly didn't put his offense to use but used him to do what centers do.

[Drewski]

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7320941/chris-paul-new-orleans-hornets-traded-season-sources-say

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/2011_1208paul_wants_no_part_of_celts/srvc=sports&position=recent_bullet

Or do you want me to find a quote from Danny Ainge? Don't you think that there'd be reports that the Celtics don't want to gamble on him? It's not like trading Rondo was a spur of the moment idea, his name was being shopped around for the last few days.

Well if that's the case then Owners shouldn't be worried about what players do beyond the last year of their contract at all. That makes great business sense. Never trade an expiring contract and lose all of your assets and pray free agency works out in your favor. In fact, contract extensions shouldn't exist period and every player should automatically become a free agent at the end of their contracts.

No, only the owners get any way where the players go and that's just the way it goes. You must go to Boston and you must give our front office word you will stay so we can inform their front office.

Your sources are all "the source". The same "the sources" all of you guys lol @ from twitter and ESPN. Same dance, what makes that any different?

[1Rose]

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Kobe was drafted by the Hornets bud.

Bynum's efficiency? 36% from the field and 4 RPG?

Impressive. I understand liking a guy, but at least call a spade a spade.

I guess you also forget the Lakers double teaming Dwight pretty much every time he touched the ball and he still dominated the glass.

[a_maz_ing]

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Deron Williams went to the nets
Carmelo to the knicks
Amare to the knicks
Lebron to the Heat

I think they realize that there are other teams besides the lakers.

Seriously, just because of CP3 lets not act like every good free agent in the last few years tried to go to LAL.

Apparently his representatives have told the Nets he wants to go there. Has he ever been to Newark? It's not a fun place to be lol

So much for that no cold weather theory.

Still think the Bulls should try and throw a wrench in all their plans and really take hold of the East.

Ugh, well than....that is just stupid, why wouldn't he rather go Chicago? Oh well I won't be mad if he goes to NJ, the more contenders the merrier...

The thing is that he's not SIGNING a contract right now. He's NOT a free agent. He's still under contract, so therefore, since he put his name by that x on the line, he has no say in the matter until his contract is up. He shouldn't.

Why is it no player should ever be allowed to violate or go against his contract but no one ever complains when teams violate or go against contracts?

No, Boston was willing to rent him for a season with no guarantee, maybe hoping to woo him in the process. CP3 didn't say he wasn't going to sign an extension, he said that he wasn't going to show up to camp. That's bull**** imo.

Boston > N.O., I was surprised he didn't want to go there.

Pau won rings in the front court without Bynum.

Oh wait.

Marc Gasol is hardly a scrap (oh another good draftee by the Laker. How funny is that, 3 of the Lakers starting 5 were DRAFTED by the Lakers!)

Leave it alone, he is troll.

3? I count 2.

And you can't be serious. Bynum was irrelevant in both Finals wins. He had like 1 good game out of 13.

Bynum WAS NOT irrelevant, he provided valuable depth, defense and rebounding relative to his playing time.

[Chrisksaint]

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If the NBA ruins the Hornets as a Franchise by not allowing him to be traded before the deadline then I will honestly never watch another NBA game again.

Granted not sure how much that'd ruin the Franchise seeing we'd suck really really bad next year, we'd just have draft a stud.

[1Rose]

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Provided depth, sure. Efficiency and rebounding? No.

[Drewski]

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Kobe was drafted by the Hornets bud.

Bynum's efficiency? 36% from the field and 4 RPG?

Impressive. I understand liking a guy, but at least call a spade a spade.

LoL, I can't even begin to wrap my head around you telling me he wasn't drafted by the Lakers. Ok Captain Fine Print.

The undervalue in Bynum is absurd on this forum.