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  • da ThRONe
    Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
    • Mar 2009
    • 8528

    #5341
    Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

    Originally posted by 23
    Who said let WB walk away... thats crazy

    In terms of value though, WB could possibly net you a Deron, but at the same time... there is no guarantee Deron is staying in NJ right now

    It was a thought not an actual trade proposal
    If you think about it if your the Nets this makes sense if you fail to net(no pun intended) Dwight.

    D-Will clearly is ready to win now and I'm sure he'd gladly sign long term with the Thunder. D-Will is a much better fit moving forward for Durant and Harden than Russ.

    If your the Nets you swap a guy who will most likely leave at the end of the year for a guy who is way more physically gifted, will most likely loved being on a team that he can show off said talents, love the huge market, and whom you can match any offer for. It gives the franchise it's marquee player going into the new arena and 4 to 5 more years to try and pair WB with another star. Since in this scenario they won't be able to do so with Williams. I think WB is better suited on a team that relys on him to be the main scorer much like Rose in Chi.
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    • da ThRONe
      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
      • Mar 2009
      • 8528

      #5342
      Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
      When did he sign a new deal? If D-Will is not going to stay in Brooklyn cause of them 'not making moves to win' why the hell would Westbrook sign a new deal to go there?
      Russ will be a RFA which mean the Nets could match any offer sheet. If they trade D-Will for Russ it's to make WB the franchise guy.

      I think Russ is getting a bad rep because the type of point guard he is is more Rose and less Rondo. In an environment where he is expected to drive the team scoring wise. He excels IMO. I think we see Derrick Rose type production. If I'm either team I jump all over this.
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      • bigeastbumrush
        My Momma's Son
        • Feb 2003
        • 19245

        #5343
        Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        LOL @ letting Westbrook just walk away. Come on now be real ya'll...think about that for a second.

        I still think he's gotten hit too hard in terms of criticism ever since the playoffs but whatever.

        Trade Deron for Westbrook? Feel like I'm on NetsDaily reading that on here ughhhhhh
        Originally posted by 23
        Who said let WB walk away... thats crazy

        In terms of value though, WB could possibly net you a Deron, but at the same time... there is no guarantee Deron is staying in NJ right now

        It was a thought not an actual trade proposal
        You let Westbrook walk because you can't afford all those contracts and clearly he wants to be the man in OKC.

        He will not be able to co-exist with KD come playoff time. We had a glimpse of it last year.

        Harden is a better "piece" for OKC.

        Maynor can man the point and I'm sure there are serviceable PGs out there who want to play with KD.

        Y'all will see once Westbrook costs them games trying to be the man.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #5344
          Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

          Deron isn't getting traded for anybody, even if he is frustrated right now(for which he has no reason to be since he's a part of the problem).

          At the end of the day, I think they'll find a way to keep him and either Harden or Ibaka.
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          • ScoobySnax
            #faceuary2014
            • Mar 2009
            • 7624

            #5345
            Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

            Knicks are looking to acquire Nash, Felton or Jameer Nelson. They need a true PG in the worst way. Getting one of these guys will possibly save D'Antoni's job.

            The Knicks plan to target Steve Nash, along with Jameer Nelson and Raymond Felton, with this summer’s $5 million mid-level exception.

            “You’ve got a guy by the name of Steve Nash who’s orchestrating the offense,’’ Amar'e Stoudemire said. “Things seem to run a little smoother when he’s got control of the ball. But we’ll get there.’’


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            • Jasong7777
              All Star
              • May 2005
              • 6415

              #5346
              Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

              Originally posted by ScoobySnax
              Knicks are looking to acquire Nash, Felton or Jameer Nelson. They need a true PG in the worst way. Getting one of these guys will possibly save D'Antoni's job.
              D'Antoni will be gone before the end of the season. I'm surprised he still has a job.
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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #5347
                Let Westbrook walk.

                You can't trade him for equal value because you'll be in the same situation where you can't resign Ibaka and Harden.

                I can't wait till Westbrook becomes someone's $90 MM problem*. Good player that will never be great enough to warrant the max contract.

                *I don't mean this for the team that signs him for but him. When he ends up clogging a team's financials and can't win, he will think of guys like Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis and wonder why he let history repeat itself.


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                • Boltman
                  L.A. to S.D. to HI
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 18283

                  #5348
                  Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                  Originally posted by ScoobySnax
                  Knicks are looking to acquire Nash, Felton or Jameer Nelson. They need a true PG in the worst way. Getting one of these guys will possibly save D'Antoni's job.
                  It would be awesome for the Knicks if they could land Nash but for some reason I just can't see him in a Knicks uni. Not for any other reason than it just seems strange to me, nothing more.

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                  • The Big Squeezy
                    Pro
                    • May 2011
                    • 796

                    #5349
                    Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                    Why not get a real, serviceable point guard to run point in OKC and just slide Russ over to the two guard position? You could still have Harden and his points come off the bench, Russ would be back at his natural position, and you don't have to worry about him running the show and taking 50 shot per game.

                    I know he's undersized for the two guard but I could see him being a Monta Ellis type player if he had someone like Andre Miller, Jameer Nelson, or just a floor general in general running the show instead of himself.
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                    Someone needs to set this thread on fire.

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                    • RedSceptile
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 3680

                      #5350
                      Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                      Originally posted by The Big Squeezy
                      Why not get a real, serviceable point guard to run point in OKC and just slide Russ over to the two guard position? You could still have Harden and his points come off the bench, Russ would be back at his natural position, and you don't have to worry about him running the show and taking 50 shot per game.

                      I know he's undersized for the two guard but I could see him being a Monta Ellis type player if he had someone like Andre Miller, Jameer Nelson, or just a floor general in general running the show instead of himself.
                      Because you lose Sefolosha's defense which is beyond important with the glut of high caliber perimeter players. Not a situation OKC wants to see happen to them.

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                      • PrettyT11
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3220

                        #5351
                        Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                        Yeah it's not about letting him go cause he isn't any good. If if he wanting 90 million dollars you let him go for the better of your team for the future. Harden and Ibaka are very important pieces to that team. You can't just let them walk away just to give Westbrook 90 million dollars. If you are serious about winning you just can't give him that kind of money. If this was a major market team that didn't mind paying the luxury tax then they could possibly keep one of those guys and Westbrook but OKC wants no part of the luxury tax.

                        Please believe there are more than a couple of teams that would throw a 50 plus million dollars deals at both Harden and Ibaka. Let's not forget DeAndre Jordan just had two team willing to give him 40 million. If either guy signs an offer sheet like that OKC won't be able to afford to match if they give Westbrook 90 million.

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                        • Drewski
                          Basketball Reasons
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 3783

                          #5352
                          Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                          Just wondering what the temperature is on Ibaka being that important to the teams success going forward, long term.
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                          • bigeastbumrush
                            My Momma's Son
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 19245

                            #5353
                            Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                            Originally posted by CMH
                            Let Westbrook walk.

                            You can't trade him for equal value because you'll be in the same situation where you can't resign Ibaka and Harden.

                            I can't wait till Westbrook becomes someone's $90 MM problem*. Good player that will never be great enough to warrant the max contract.

                            *I don't mean this for the team that signs him for but him. When he ends up clogging a team's financials and can't win, he will think of guys like Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis and wonder why he let history repeat itself.


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                            Originally posted by The Big Squeezy
                            Why not get a real, serviceable point guard to run point in OKC and just slide Russ over to the two guard position? You could still have Harden and his points come off the bench, Russ would be back at his natural position, and you don't have to worry about him running the show and taking 50 shot per game.

                            I know he's undersized for the two guard but I could see him being a Monta Ellis type player if he had someone like Andre Miller, Jameer Nelson, or just a floor general in general running the show instead of himself.
                            Originally posted by RedSceptile
                            Because you lose Sefolosha's defense which is beyond important with the glut of high caliber perimeter players. Not a situation OKC wants to see happen to them.
                            Originally posted by PrettyT11
                            Yeah it's not about letting him go cause he isn't any good. If if he wanting 90 million dollars you let him go for the better of your team for the future. Harden and Ibaka are very important pieces to that team. You can't just let them walk away just to give Westbrook 90 million dollars. If you are serious about winning you just can't give him that kind of money. If this was a major market team that didn't mind paying the luxury tax then they could possibly keep one of those guys and Westbrook but OKC wants no part of the luxury tax.

                            Please believe there are more than a couple of teams that would throw a 50 plus million dollars deals at both Harden and Ibaka. Let's not forget DeAndre Jordan just had two team willing to give him 40 million. If either guy signs an offer sheet like that OKC won't be able to afford to match if they give Westbrook 90 million.

                            I couldn't agree with you guys more.

                            Russell will win you some regular season games.
                            Might even win you a first round game or two.

                            But when it's all on the line and OKC needs to get THAT win...he might as well put on a #3 jersey, put on some cheap bootleg sneakers and tattoo a star onto the side of his head.

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                            • RedSceptile
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 3680

                              #5354
                              Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                              Originally posted by Drewski
                              Just wondering what the temperature is on Ibaka being that important to the teams success going forward, long term.
                              He's a necessity. He's a superb help defender and his length can bother shots that he can't block. Unlike DeAndre Jordan he has some semblance of an offensive game (especially outside the paint because you know Jordan is allergic to the ball from anywhere else). He's still raw (he's completely mechanical in the post but it isn't as hilarious as watching Perkins trying to utilize his ” post moves ”. In a Western conference that features the like of Griffin, Aldridge, the Gasols (if Pau ever decides to realize he's not a Shooting Guard) Randolph, Love and even grandpa Duncan you need a good, high IQ post defender + help defender (Ibaka just happens to supply both roles at once).

                              If OKC loses Ibaka they're in for a world of pain if they plan on starting Collison at the 4.

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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #5355
                                Re: Official POST-LOCKOUT Player Movement Thread (Trades, FAs, etc)

                                I asked because I dont think Westbrook is worth 90 million for 5 years or whatever it is... thats just too much for a dude who doesn't produce like a Chris Paul or Derrick Rose... matter of fact did Rose even get that much?

                                In that case as I said, look to trade the dude

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