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[ex carrabba fan]

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Its not an angle and you missed it totally which is ok.

Shaq is playing a thorn to Dwight whether you like it or not.

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I missed it? Explain it to me then

[Hassan Darkside]

One thing I remembered last night and thought was kinda funny was an article I read on Dwight when he just got drafted. He was talking like he was God sent and his main goal was to spiritually influence the lives of everyone around him.

8 years and 5 baby mamas later he's the most hated player in the NBA. Adidas would rather shoot pointless commercials of Derrick Rose rehabbing than put Dwight on TV right now.

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[Kashanova]

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I do agree with BigEast that Dwight should just keep his trap shut. It's beyond beating a dead horse by now on Shaq's part.

Watching the actual interview though, it's hard to say Dwight looks stupid for responding.

I disagree with BigEast on Dwight being in Shaq's shadow, I don't think Dwight is in Shaq's shadow at all. They're two completely different players. Shaq was never the defensive juggernaut Dwight is and Dwight will probably never be the offensive powerhouse Shaq was. Just because Dwight now plays for LA doesn't mean he's in anyone's shadow.

Shaq was never in anyone's shadow when he came to LA, I don't think Kareem was in Wilt's shadow. All these centers had completely different skill sets and were all great in their own regard.

Wait? What? Did you even see Shaq play before 2000? He was great defensively, and since when is Dwight a Juggernaut? In comparison to some of the defensive greats I don't even think many people would have dwight in their top threes

One thing I remembered last night and thought was kinda funny was an article I read on Dwight when he just got drafted. He was talking like he was God sent and his main goal was to spiritually influence the lives of everyone around him.

8 years and 5 baby mamas later he's the most hated player in the NBA. Adidas would rather shoot pointless commercials of Derrick Rose rehabbing than put Dwight on TV right now.

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Exactly the reason I hate him. He's so fake.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Wait? What? Did you even see Shaq play before 2000? He was great defensively, and since when is Dwight a Juggernaut? In comparison to some of the defensive greats I don't even think many people would have dwight in their top threes


Exactly the reason I hate him. He's so fake.

Shaq was never close to the level of Dwight defensively. Ever. That means before 2000 and whatever other year Shaq played in the NBA. Case opened and case closed.

Compared to other great defensive centers, Dwight might not surpass them but he's been the best one of his time. Also a case that cannot be argued.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Three time Defensive Player of the Year (2009-2011)
Four time rebounding champ
Two time shot block leader
Four time First Team Defense
One time 2nd Team Defense

That doesn't describe a defensive juggernaut to Kashanova eh? Not surprising in the least.

[l3ulvl]

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Why can't they both be defensive juggernauts?

I'll say Dwight is a great defensive player, but what competition does he have? It's not like he's banging with other elite centers since he's basically the only one.

Put him up against Ewing, Olajuwon, Robinson, etc and I'll bet he doesn't look so dominant.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Why can't they both be defensive juggernauts?

I'll say Dwight is a great defensive player, but what competition does he have? It's not like he's banging with other elite centers since he's basically the only one.

Put him up against Ewing, Olajuwon, Robinson, etc and I'll bet he doesn't look so dominant.

Look who Shaq went up against during the prime of his career. Nobody. Yet he only made one 2nd team defensive team, was never Defensive player of the year. He was never at Dwight's level defensively. To call Shaq a defensive juggernaut is laughable.

Who cares how Dwight would look against those all-time greats? That is not even a part of the discussion

[ProfessaPackMan]

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but the point was shaq is the only guy on Dwight and i don't sympathize with him....that's all..

And that's fine.

Now what exactly do the Media and Lebron have to do with Shaq and Duhwight?

[ex carrabba fan]

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My mistake, Shaq made 2nd team defense three times.

He was a terrible PnR defender in his prime. Absoultely the worst.

[l3ulvl]

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Look who Shaq went up against during the prime of his career. Nobody. Yet he only made one 2nd team defensive team, was never Defensive player of the year. He was never at Dwight's level defensively. To call Shaq a defensive juggernaut is laughable.

Who cares how Dwight would look against those all-time greats? That is not even a part of the discussion

I feel Dwight gets too much credit for defensive rebounds. If you're looking at blocks, Shaq had 2.4 bpg or more 6 times in his first 8 years. Dwight has done it three times in his 8 year career.

It seems to me that Shaq was so dominant offensively it was overlooked that he was actually damn good on the defensive end too.

As far as number of DPOY awards go, Shaq had to compete with Mutumbo, Olajuwon, Mourning, Ben Wallace, etc. I'm not really sure who Howard has had to compete with aside from maybe Garnett and Chandler.

[ex carrabba fan]

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You put Dwight in the beginning of the 2000's era and I'm certain he still racks up DPOY awards.

I'm trying to remember elite level defensive big men in that era, but I know that centers the caliber of centers around that time weren't too great. Take nothing away from Shaquille because he was the greatest force I've ever seen.. outside of LeBron

[Kashanova]

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Shaq was never close to the level of Dwight defensively. Ever. That means before 2000 and whatever other year Shaq played in the NBA. Case opened and case closed.

Compared to other great defensive centers, Dwight might not surpass them but he's been the best one of his time. Also a case that cannot be argued.

Case Re-opened, Shaq was at Dwight's level defensively actually I'd venture to say he might of been a bit better. Dwight looks great now due to the fact that the Big Men in this era are weak, especially defensively. Him being the best of his time means nothing since it's a weak big men era

Three time Defensive Player of the Year (2009-2011)
Four time rebounding champ
Two time shot block leader
Four time First Team Defense
One time 2nd Team Defense

That doesn't describe a defensive juggernaut to Kashanova eh? Not surprising in the least.

That's a good resume but then again it's weak in this era. Shaq never won DPOY because he had all time greats like Mutombo, Olajuwon, Rodman, and Mourning all playing in his era and all a lot better than Dwight Defensively. For perspective, Dwight has never average 3 blocks or more per game, Shaq has done it twice.

You put Dwight in the beginning of the 2000's era and I'm certain he still racks up DPOY awards.

I'm trying to remember elite level defensive big men in that era, but I know that centers the caliber of centers around that time weren't too great. Take nothing away from Shaquille because he was the greatest force I've ever seen.. outside of LeBron

Shaq had 5 Elite level Defensive Big Men in his era at least. Names like Mutombo, Olajuwon, Rodman, Mourning and Wallace that's pretty damn good. Dwight's competition on defensive is who? Tyson Chandler? KG?

[Majingir]

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Introducing the future Coach of the Year.....Courtney Witte! lol. I know ESPN(and every other USA station) doesn't care at all about the Raptors but still....how do you mess this up

http://espn.go.com/nba/coaches/_/id/6719/courtney-witte

[Boltman]

This is slowly becoming the Dwight thread, with people determined to prove or discredit his defensive prowess or lack thereof lol.

[JerzeyReign]

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Remember the jawn that McGee smashed and didn't feed her all weekend? She's now saying she's pregnant and he's the pappy, lol. Karma is a mutha...