2012 NBA Draft Discussion

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Bull_Market
    Pro
    • Jul 2012
    • 618

    #3061
    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

    Originally posted by da ThRONe
    In terms of wins or production was my point. I just thought your comment wasn't specific. Every player needs a good supporting cast to win. Not all players need the supporting cast to put up numbers.

    I'm not disagreeing with you by the way. I've taken a lot of criticism being anti-Davis in terms of him ever being transcend or a superstar. Personally I don't see a once in a generation player either.
    Well, it certainly wont be wins, imo. On the production front, looking at double digit rebounds, close to 2 blocks/PG, and a shade over 10 ppg. Not overwhelming numbers, but effective. Hes not someone you can throw the ball down to and get buckets, more run outs and cheap Danny Manning-esque put backs.
    #HellaBandz
    In Gunna I Trust

    Comment

    • Chrisksaint
      $$$
      • Apr 2010
      • 19127

      #3062
      Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

      Maybe in the first season, but given his pure raw skills I don't think he'll max out at 10ppg
      Saints, LSU, Seminoles, Pelicans, Marlins, Lightning

      Comment

      • Bull_Market
        Pro
        • Jul 2012
        • 618

        #3063
        Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

        Originally posted by Chrisksaint
        Maybe in the first season, but given his pure raw skills I don't think he'll max out at 10ppg
        Where do you see him maxing out at? 18 ppg i think is the ceiling. I dont see him as 20 ppg scorer.
        #HellaBandz
        In Gunna I Trust

        Comment

        • da ThRONe
          Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
          • Mar 2009
          • 8528

          #3064
          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by Bull_Market
          Where do you see him maxing out at? 18 ppg i think is the ceiling. I dont see him as 20 ppg scorer.
          Yeah I think 16-18ppg for him would be my max. I saw nothing out of him at Kentucky that lead me to believe he can be a 20+ppg type player. Really IMO 18ppg is a stretch.
          You looking at the Chair MAN!

          Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

          Comment

          • Weeks
            L Corleone
            • Aug 2009
            • 2990

            #3065
            Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

            IMO Davis can be a 20ppg guy.
            Chicago Bulls
            Chicago Bears
            Wisconsin Badgers

            Comment

            • wwharton
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2002
              • 26949

              #3066
              Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

              Originally posted by da ThRONe
              Yeah I think 16-18ppg for him would be my max. I saw nothing out of him at Kentucky that lead me to believe he can be a 20+ppg type player. Really IMO 18ppg is a stretch.
              I remember when freshmen weren't even allowed to play on most teams in college (yeah I'm old, I know). I don't really see how a cap can be put on a kid who's only played one year out of high school.

              Not knocking your prediction, I just think it's hard to make a prediction like that with most we've barely seen. Some may have said the same about Irving, or Rose. Others expected Wall to be on Rose's level and Brandon Knight to be a huge bust. I won't even mention Kwame. He could develop his game into a 20+ point scorer. I'd be shocked if he was anywhere close to there year one, but he's still extremely young. I don't think we can really predict what he could evolve into. I think the low end is a poor man's Camby which isn't so bad, but he may end up being more of a wing player for all we know (that'd probably be bad IMO but it's possible).

              Comment

              • Chrisksaint
                $$$
                • Apr 2010
                • 19127

                #3067
                Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                Exactly it's hard to put a cap on anyone this young and with his skill sets it's hard to get an idea of what he'll become. Good ball handling for his size, decent jumper, and great athleticism/measurables the sky is the limit for this kid for all we know
                Saints, LSU, Seminoles, Pelicans, Marlins, Lightning

                Comment

                • Weeks
                  L Corleone
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2990

                  #3068
                  Originally posted by wwharton
                  I remember when freshmen weren't even allowed to play on most teams in college (yeah I'm old, I know). I don't really see how a cap can be put on a kid who's only played one year out of high school.

                  Not knocking your prediction, I just think it's hard to make a prediction like that with most we've barely seen. Some may have said the same about Irving, or Rose. Others expected Wall to be on Rose's level and Brandon Knight to be a huge bust. I won't even mention Kwame. He could develop his game into a 20+ point scorer. I'd be shocked if he was anywhere close to there year one, but he's still extremely young. I don't think we can really predict what he could evolve into. I think the low end is a poor man's Camby which isn't so bad, but he may end up being more of a wing player for all we know (that'd probably be bad IMO but it's possible).
                  Agreed. Plus Davis has only been a big man for a few years so he still has a lot of room to develop there.
                  Chicago Bulls
                  Chicago Bears
                  Wisconsin Badgers

                  Comment

                  • Bull_Market
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 618

                    #3069
                    Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                    It is hard to predict, but thats part of the fun. Davis doesnt need the ball to dominate a game, he can have a huge impact scoring in the single digits. Its the other things that make him so special.

                    Barnes, Beal, MKG, & Lilliard all strike me as legitimate 20 ppg scorers in the NBA. I will say Davis is ”bust proof” he does so many things that previous lottery big men cant do.
                    #HellaBandz
                    In Gunna I Trust

                    Comment

                    • da ThRONe
                      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8528

                      #3070
                      Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                      Originally posted by wwharton
                      I remember when freshmen weren't even allowed to play on most teams in college (yeah I'm old, I know). I don't really see how a cap can be put on a kid who's only played one year out of high school.

                      Not knocking your prediction, I just think it's hard to make a prediction like that with most we've barely seen. Some may have said the same about Irving, or Rose. Others expected Wall to be on Rose's level and Brandon Knight to be a huge bust. I won't even mention Kwame. He could develop his game into a 20+ point scorer. I'd be shocked if he was anywhere close to there year one, but he's still extremely young. I don't think we can really predict what he could evolve into. I think the low end is a poor man's Camby which isn't so bad, but he may end up being more of a wing player for all we know (that'd probably be bad IMO but it's possible).
                      Well ofcourse none of us know what will happen with any certainty. I thought one of the point of being a sports fanatic is trying to guess a players impact at the next level.
                      Last edited by da ThRONe; 07-25-2012, 09:20 PM.
                      You looking at the Chair MAN!

                      Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

                      Comment

                      • PhantomPain
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 3512

                        #3071
                        Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                        Originally posted by da ThRONe
                        Well ofcourse none of us know what will happen with any certainty. I thought one the point of being a sports fanatic is trying to guess a players impact at the next level.
                        I agree with the above poster about anyone knowing how someone will be later but I also agree with you...as long as all UK players are predicted to be All Star MVP players!
                        #WeAreUK

                        Comment

                        • wwharton
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26949

                          #3072
                          Re: 2012 NBA Draft Discussion

                          Originally posted by da ThRONe
                          Well ofcourse none of us know what will happen with any certainty. I thought one of the point of being a sports fanatic is trying to guess a players impact at the next level.
                          Like I said I wasn't knocking your prediction, just giving my opinion on the topic.

                          With that said, I think it's much easier to make other predictions for Davis than points scored. I think that's the one that's really up in the air.

                          Comment

                          Working...