Jeremy Lin

[CerebrumMusica]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I am a Lin fan but I will point out the biggest flaw I see in his game since everyone just wants to point out the good stuff.

Defense: Way too often I see him out of position and sagg off his guy to double a BIG who doesn't need doubling and alot of times he looks out of position or lost. He is lucky Fisher and Blake weren't hitting their shots or they weren't getting the ball passed to them. If he does this to PG's like Rose or guys that can shoot the rock it will not be pretty.

With that said I have a feeling Melo is gonna F things up for NY and I wouldn't be surprised if he is going to be the cancer. I really hope Jeremy Lin become successful and hope D'Antoni coach him up to be like Steve Nash was with the Suns a few years back.

Finally, someone with an actual reference to what he isn't great at, instead of just saying "He isn't as good as you think" and leaving it at that.

So, for those saying he is getting his 15 minutes of fame, why do you think that? Have you watched the games, or are you assuming? I have watched a couple of the games he has started, and as a long time NBA fan and analyst of the game, I can tell he isn't a fluke, because he isn't just getting lucky, he is earning every bit of praise that he is getting.

So, all of the sudden is he going to flop, and play like a scrub? What exactly warrants that assumption? Just because a lot of players have had some mean streaks and drifted back into irrelevance? If you watch the way this guy plays, and you know basketball, you can tell he is a good player.

I am not crowing him with anything right now, but I can tell he will make an impact for awhile in this league. Especially if he is watching game tape at halftime.

[JaySmooov]

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It's definitely a factor, no question about it. IMO, the bigger factors are the un-drafted, twice cut, guy coming from nowhere and taking the league by storm. He'd be getting significant media attention no matter where he played, if all circumstances were static, like him seemingly saving a teams season with 4 straight wins, without their 2 All-NBA caliber players. Being from the Ivy League doesn't hurt either. It's lazy to just blame it on NYC or his ethnicity. It amplifies it, but it would be big anywhere.

Not to mention, I think he had to convince the coaches at Harvard to let him on the team. Harvard isn't exactly a hotbed of talent

Perfect example right here-> George Hill in the 2009-2010 first round series against the Mavs. He carried the Spurs and averaged 22ppg across the 6 games. He even dropped 29 points with 5 threes in game 4 against a division rival in the playoffs when the Big Three didn't show up to play. Yet did anybody talk about him? NO. Being a Spurs fan in NY I could mention the name George Hill and people would just stare it me like a confused dog.

But this isn't anything new; it's the reason guys like Dwight want to go to bigger markets, so we can see more of them through publicity.

No sense to complain about it though; why continue to beat a dead horse?

[Jukeman]

He went to Harvard because he had no offers..(not gonna state the obvious why)

He was actually all state in Cali..


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[SteelersFreak]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I think its hard to say he's not going to continue being successful in a pick and roll offense, especially when STAT comes back, and its not like he's doing this by shooting a bunch of three's and jumpers, he's consistently penetrated defenses and run the pick and roll very successfully in all four games.

[Jukeman]

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Don't know how his youtube page isn't brought up in his official thread

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[CerebrumMusica]

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So you mean to tell me that if was doing this in say...NJ or Charlotte or DC or Toronto or Memphis or Utah, he'd be getting the same amount of attention he's getting now?

I've already said that he's been balling his *** off lately. Won't deny that he isn't killing right now. Don't know how many different ways I can say this LOL.

BUT, I'm also not naive to the fact that he's getting all this hype because he plays in NY(where everything gets magnified x100 compared to smaller markets)and because he's Asian American. Not going to ignore like it's NOT a reason when it is, whether you want to believe it or not.

I agree with you that there is MORE attention because he is playing in the biggest city in the USA, because that's who the media is obsessed with. However, I still think he would get nearly just as much attention playing anywhere else because regardless of where he plays or who he is, it is a good story.

Not a lot of players come out of nowhere to do what he has done, and to say it's only because of where he plays or what race he is, is an exaggeration.

PPM I respect you a lot, based on most of your posts I've read since I got here, but why are you discrediting this guy so much? What he has done is an anomaly in this league, and warrants the attention he is getting.

[SteelersFreak]

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Don't know how his youtube page isn't brought up in his official thread

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I like his little Day in the Life video too.

[DamnYanks2]

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This thread ends when Melo comes back, because this will happen to Lin

[snepp]

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This thread ends when Melo comes back, because this will happen to Lin

That might be the most apt use of that smilie ever.

[DamnYanks2]

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That might be the most apt use of that smilie ever.

Melo's "whore like" love for the iso, inspired it. thanks Melo

[AllJuicedUp]

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He went to Harvard because he had no offers..(not gonna state the obvious why)

He was actually all state in Cali..


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Why not, people (well one guy here in particular) seems to point out every chance he gets that a large reason Lin is getting so much hype is because he's of Asian descent. To which I say so what?

If you don't think his ethnicity has played against him being perceived as a true athlete and getting the recognition he deserves his entire career, you're crazy. And I think thats something that SHOULD be pointed out, because it is a crime. If he gets a little extra hype now because of it, all the more power to him. He's worked his *** off to earn it.

As for his game, imo his biggest strength and what makes me think he can at the very least be the NY pg for the immediate future is that the dude changes speeds very well and is quick as hell (I swear he goes from 0 to 60 in one step) and has very good body control when he gets to the rim. That part of his game is not a fluke.

Of course its unrealistic to expect him to keep putting up crazy numbers like this (although I wont say its impossible, because that would be a disservice too), but if you watch the kid play, you know he can ball. On top of that, he has fun out there, and seems like a genuinely good guy. The kid deserves his shot and if this turns out to be his 15 minutes of fame, then so be it. But you can bet your *** I'm happy as hell for him and am gonna enjoy the **** out of this while it does last.

Too many people are so caught up in their own heads, wanting to compare him to other players or project his future, that they completely miss the present moment. And to me, thats insane. I'm sorry, but I exist in the here and now. It doesn't matter what happens tomorrow, next week, next month, at this moment, Jeremy Lin is the **** and the best thing to happen to NY basketball in a LONG time.

So laugh at the hype, tear him down, whatever, because the truth is, I feel sorry for the people that can't live in the present and enjoy what is happening right now. Because if you'd just take a minute to pause, turn on the game, and watch him ball, I guarantee you'd have a smile on your face and root for the kid.

[King_B_Mack]

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So you mean to tell me that if was doing this in say...NJ or Charlotte or DC or Toronto or Memphis or Utah, he'd be getting the same amount of attention he's getting now?

I've already said that he's been balling his *** off lately. Won't deny that he isn't killing right now. Don't know how many different ways I can say this LOL.

BUT, I'm also not naive to the fact that he's getting all this hype because he plays in NY(where everything gets magnified x100 compared to smaller markets)and because he's Asian American. Not going to ignore like it's NOT a reason when it is, whether you want to believe it or not.

I'm with you Pack. Just say Kyrie Irving. Kyrie is balling this year and he isn't getting NEAR the hype Lin is getting for three games (now four). I'm getting ESPN alerts on my phone for Lin's halftime statline. Not once have I got that for Kyrie. Not once have I got that for Rubio. Meanwhile on NBA's Facebook page this morning they were hocking Lin Knicks jerseys already. Richard Hamilton's been on the Bulls since the start of the season and his jersey still isn't available for sale at the Bulls or NBA.com stores unless you personalize one with his name and number. If my man was anywhere else but New York (or LA) it wouldn't be happening. Hell remember Norris Cole? Not much hype training about him like the first two weeks of the year now is it?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I agree with you that there is MORE attention because he is playing in the biggest city in the USA, because that's who the media is obsessed with. However, I still think he would get nearly just as much attention playing anywhere else because regardless of where he plays or who he is, it is a good story.

Not a lot of players come out of nowhere to do what he has done, and to say it's only because of where he plays or what race he is, is an exaggeration.

PPM I respect you a lot, based on most of your posts I've read since I got here, but why are you discrediting this guy so much? What he has done is an anomaly in this league, and warrants the attention he is getting.

LOL How am I discrediting him though? Because I'm not falling all over him like everyone else is?

For the 100th time, I said he was balling right NOW and said the best comparison I'd make for him now is Goran Dragic(and people got on me because I made that comparison ). Or is being compared to him some sort of slight towards him now? Last time I checked, Dragic isn't a bum or some slouch and he's actually been pretty solid.

But again, we have seen PLENTY of players throughout the HISTORY of the NBA come from out nowhere, never to be heard of outside of Message Boards, have a nice little hot streak of games and then we don't hear much from them again aka 15 minutes of fame. Am I wrong on this one? This is not the first time nor is it the last time that something like will happen in the NBA, which was all I was trying to say.

Again, he's balling right now and he is doing his thing. What more do people want me to say or am I still not giving him enough credit? Serious LOL.

[lilbiggio]

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LOL How am I discrediting him though? Because I'm not falling all over him like everyone else is?

For the 100th time, I said he was balling right NOW and said the best comparison I'd make for him now is Goran Dragic(and people got on me because I made that comparison ). Or is being compared to him some sort of slight towards him now? Last time I checked, Dragic isn't a bum or some slouch and he's actually been pretty solid.

But again, we have seen PLENTY of players throughout the HISTORY of the NBA come from out nowhere, never to be heard of outside of Message Boards, have a nice little hot streak of games and then we don't hear much from them again aka 15 minutes of fame. Am I wrong on this one? This is not the first time nor is it the last time that something like will happen in the NBA, which was all I was trying to say.

Again, he's balling right now and he is doing his thing. What more do people want me to say or am I still not giving him enough credit? Serious LOL.

Dude was undrafted rotting in the d league. Now he is balling his butt off with the best in the world. This is not everyday precedented stuff. You might have to take the L with this one.

[SteelersFreak]

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I'm with you Pack. Just say Kyrie Irving. Kyrie is balling this year and he isn't getting NEAR the hype Lin is getting for three games (now four). I'm getting ESPN alerts on my phone for Lin's halftime statline. Not once have I got that for Kyrie. Not once have I got that for Rubio. Meanwhile on NBA's Facebook page this morning they were hocking Lin Knicks jerseys already. Richard Hamilton's been on the Bulls since the start of the season and his jersey still isn't available for sale at the Bulls or NBA.com stores unless you personalize one with his name and number. If my man was anywhere else but New York (or LA) it wouldn't be happening. Hell remember Norris Cole? Not much hype training about him like the first two weeks of the year now is it?

Once again, Kyrie Irving is the number one draft pick, he's expected to be balling. Rubio was the talk of the town early in the season when it was surprising, but since then he's been consistently good. And Rip Hamilton is Rip Hamilton. Some of it comes from being in New York but its mostly because its a guy coming out of nowhere and going crazy.