NBA 2011-2012 MVP Thread

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: NBA 2011-2012 MVP Thread

Assuming Rose keeps up this play for the rest of the way. Otherwise I'd still give it to Lebron regardless of who has the better record.

[st0rmb11]

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LeBron had better numbers than Rose last year.

As most have deduced, it's gonna come down to who's team has the best regular season record. I know the award hasn't always followed this format BUT in most times, this has been the case. So if the Bulls have the best regular season record, Derrick Rose wins his second straight award. If the Heat capture the best regular season, then LeBron wins it. If the Thunder ends up with the best record, Durant captures the award.

I disagree with this. Record shouldn't matter when one player has significantly better stats than another player. As long as the records are close, you can't say LeBron doesn't deserve it over Rose.

Here are my top candidates (in no particular order) and their stats and "resume"



LeBron James - 27.7 points, 8.4 rebounds, 6.7 assists, 55% shooting (77% from free throw line, 39% from three), 1.8 steals, 0.8 blocks, shares primary scoring duties, exceptional defender, shares primary rebounding duties, shares Miami's ball handling duties, carried team while D-Wade was out. Team Record - 30-9

Chris Paul - 19.8 points, 3.6 rebounds, 8.4 assists, 49% shooting (86% from free throw line, 42% from three), 2.3 steals, go to "crunch time" scorer, exceptional defender, primary ball handler, has boosted Clippers to legitimate contender in West. Team Record - 22-15

Derrick Rose - 22.7 points, 3.4 rebounds, 7.8 assists, 46% shooting (82% from free throw line, 32% from three), 0.9 steals, go to "crunch time" scorer, very solid defender, primary ball handler, primary scorer. Team Record - 33-8

Kevin Durant - 28.1 points, 7.9 rebounds, 3.3 assists, 50% shooting (84% from free throw line, 37% from three), 1.4 steals, 1.2 blocks, go to "crunch time" scorer, average defender, primary scorer, shares primary rebounding duties Team Record - 31-8

Kevin Love - 25.5 points, 13.7 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 45% shooting (83% from free throw line, 37% from three), 0.9 steals, 0.5 blocks, go to "crunch time" scorer, below average defender, primary scorer, primary rebounder, almost single handedly carrying T'Wolves to playoffs. Team Record - 21-19

Dwight Howard - 20.7 points, 15.0 rebounds, 1.9 assists, 57% shooting (49% from free throw line), 1.5 steals, 2.2 blocks, primary scoring option, exceptional shot blocker, primary rebounding duties, leads league with 20-20 games. Team Record - 25-15

Tony Parker - 19.5 points, 2.5 rebounds, 7.9 assists, 47% shooting (80% from free throw line, 27% from three), 1.1 steals, primary ball handling duties, primary scorer, shares primary "crunch time" scoring duties, average defender, carried team offensively while Ginobili was out. Team Record - 26.-12

Kobe Bryant - 28.7 points, 5.8 rebounds, 4.7 assists, 44% shooting (83% from free throw line, 28% from three), 1.3 steals, primary scoring duties, primary ball handler, solid defender, go to "crunch time" scorer, has won some games for Lakers in 4th quarter, but often shoots team out of games in 4th, doesn't utilize big men as often as should (personal gripe I have with him). Team Record - 23-16

[dramachild11]

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i said lebron earlier and i still believe he should get it but im starting to think that if there is any other player that should be seriously consìdered for the award its kevin love.. i know durant is having is usual stellar season and he has made some strides defensively but love's game an his impact on a REALLY young team in the western conference (a fact which shouldnt be glossed over) is starting to impress me more & more.. its not so much his numbers but the competition hes operating against at his position plus the team at this moment i think is in the 8th spot so the #'s are starting to translate to wins which seems to refute the logic that most analysts were using to explain why he isnt a franchise player

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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i said lebron earlier and i still believe he should get it but im starting to think that if there is any other player that should be seriously consìdered for the award its kevin love.. i know durant is having is usual stellar season and he has made some strides defensively but love's game an his impact on a REALLY young team in the western conference (a fact which shouldnt be glossed over) is starting to impress me more & more.. its not so much his numbers but the competition hes operating against at his position plus the team at this moment i think is in the 8th spot so the #'s are starting to translate to wins which seems to refute the logic that most analysts were using to explain why he isnt a franchise player

Well I think they use that argument because he put up similar numbers last year and they were still one of the worst teams in the league. The team is more competitive this year because the rest of the team is finally starting to figure things out and while Rubio continues to struggle shooting the rock, between him and Ridnour, they finally have PGs that do a nice job of setting up teammates.

[jeebs9]

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Assuming Rose keeps up this play for the rest of the way. Otherwise I'd still give it to Lebron regardless of who has the better record.

I'm kind of on the same boat. I see Rose as a candidate. But should he win if they have the best record again. I don't think so. But like it comes down to every year. Best team with the best player. And Derrick Rose is that person right now.

[Raider131]

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It's Lebron and I don't even think its close. When a guy is having a historic season and is second in conference. I don't see how it could be anyone else. But if Chris Paul turns into the 20-10 Chris Paul and get the clippers back to the way they were in the beginning of the aeason I can see it becoming interesting

[airjoca]

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It's Lebron and I don't even think its close. When a guy is having a historic season and is second in conference.

Whats historic about it?

[Jukeman]

Whats historic about it?

For one, his PER is historical.


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[RedSceptile]

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For one, his PER is historical.


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That combined with FG % both 3 and overall compounded with MPG, his overall defense and stats across the board are pretty impressive.

[PlusTheHarm]

Gotta think LeBron gets it. I want to see Derrick finish strong and make it close though. Rose was trying to prove something last year, played amazing ball for a 3rd year. He got an MVP, for the moment it is ring or bust with this kid so I don't think he is worried about anything but W's. No other numbers but the one in the win column. Not to suggest he isn't having another great year ... in most respects at least.

LeBron is just playing too good. Lotta ball left though.

[BlueNGold]

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If LeBron keeps up the numbers he's been producing to this point for the rest of the season and he doesn't win, it's a damn travesty.

[SteelersFreak]

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If the Suns get to the playoffs this year, and they're making a push, I'd give it to Nash.

[The 24th Letter]

I think it's between Bron and KD.....these two are playing with crazy efficiency right now....

[jda1202]

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I got it
1. James
2. Durant
3. Rose
4. CP3
5. Dwight Or Parker

[Nathan_OS]

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I got it
1. James
2. Durant
3. Rose
4. CP3
5. Dwight Or Parker

At 5, I definitely cannot put Dwight in this conversation at all.

IMO, I'd put Kobe or Nash or Kevin Love .. probably a couple more guys , before I put Dwight Howard in this.