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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #76
    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    Much like the Asik deal, it's overpaying for certain but it's not as bad as it appears. I think what makes it awful is that Fields doesn't help Toronto one bit. He's not the player they really need even though he's a SF and they need a 3.... he might be left out of the rotation before it's all said and done.

    Much different than the Asik deal, where Chicago would feel the impact, NY won't blink an eye, lol
    Exactly - that's what's crazy, I really don't see Fields even being in the rotation in Toronto.
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    • bigeastbumrush
      My Momma's Son
      • Feb 2003
      • 19245

      #77
      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

      Originally posted by SteelersFreak
      The Knicks could still offer the same trade and just replace Fields with Shump and get Nash. But that would be insane.
      Nash isn't worth all that.

      The Knicks aren't trying to get Joe Johnson'd.

      We already had every PG on the roster break down last year. By that 3rd year...Nash's back will be toast.

      It felt nice to get Nash but not mortgaging the farm for him.

      Knicks need to move on ASAP.

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      • Chrisksaint
        $$$
        • Apr 2010
        • 19127

        #78
        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

        Hornets need to start looking for a SF, I have no faith in Aminu
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        • King_B_Mack
          All Star
          • Jan 2009
          • 24450

          #79
          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

          Originally posted by mdmgrand
          I believed in Rich Cho as the Blazers GM as well, it's a shame he wasn't allowed a couple years...

          On a side note, I came up with a four team trade that would benefit all teams that are looking to shake up their rosters.



          Add in one first rounder from the Bulls to the Magic, and I believe it would be a deal... I'll explain for each team

          Bulls - You get Dwight Howard, simple as that. I believe being in Chicago with Rose might make him change his mind about signing an extension only in Brooklyn. You also obtain Duhon as depth, even though he is not very good. The downside is you get the terrible contract of Turkoglu, but he would help with point forward duties as Rose is out.

          Magic - By adding Noah, Williams, and Gibson the Magic would have a formidable front court with potential. They also would obtain a first rounder from the Bulls. This pick would obviously be late in the draft, but they couldn't ask for much more after they unloaded Turkoglu's contract. Wes Johnson and Martel Webster are just fillers. They are definite buyout/waive candidates. This trade would allow the Magic to not overpay for Ryan Anderson, and they would definitely be looking at a top pick in 2013 to pair with Noah, Williams, and Gibson as building blocks.

          Lakers - They trade Pau Gasol (basically their only true PF on contract), for a shooter/defender in Deng, a point guard who would be an upgrade over Blake, and Darko who would provide blocks and passing for the second unit. If they were able to resign Jordan Hill, this would be a great trade.

          Wolves - They unload three bad contracts and one potential starter to obtain a quality big man to pair with Love and Pekovic.
          That's actually not that bad to be honest. Only poblem I would have with it would be our depth at PF with Taj gone because Boozer sucks *** for the most part and with the Dwight and Hedo contracts on the books along with that crap Asik contract, very little room for FA moves to address the position.

          Originally posted by ehh




          Mark Berman said that if Phoenix is dumb enough to offer a similar deal to Fields that the S&T would still be alive and well since nothing is official since July 11th. But we know Phoenix isn't that dumb.

          And...
          That guy clearly didn't see the Asik contract if he thinks the Fields one is the dumbest of the offseason.

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          • ex carrabba fan
            I'll thank him for you
            • Oct 2004
            • 32744

            #80
            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

            Originally posted by ehh
            Exactly - that's what's crazy, I really don't see Fields even being in the rotation in Toronto.
            I do believe Fields is worth 4-5 mill which means in NBA terms he's a 6 mill guy.. but it would have to be in the right fit. Toronto certainly isn't one of those.

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            • Championships
              Rookie
              • Feb 2011
              • 205

              #81
              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

              Originally posted by Chrisksaint
              Hornets need to start looking for a SF, I have no faith in Aminu
              Maybe they'll find that SF in the Summer League.
              death to molly

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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #82
                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                I do believe Fields is worth 4-5 mill which means in NBA terms he's a 6 mill guy.. but it would have to be in the right fit. Toronto certainly isn't one of those.
                He's not the right fit, and the motive behind it is what makes it even worse

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                • NYJets
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 18637

                  #83
                  Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

                  At least Asik is a useful player. Raptors paid $20 million to give them a better shot at Nash. Fields doesn't help them at all.

                  If Nash turned around and went to Dallas now...
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                  • mchase27
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 189

                    #84
                    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

                    I remember when ESPN was hyping Fields his rookie season lol.

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                    • bigeastbumrush
                      My Momma's Son
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 19245

                      #85
                      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      Much like the Asik deal, it's overpaying for certain but it's not as bad as it appears. I think what makes it awful is that Fields doesn't help Toronto one bit. He's not the player they really need even though he's a SF and they need a 3.... he might be left out of the rotation before it's all said and done.

                      Much different than the Asik deal, where Chicago would feel the impact, NY won't blink an eye, lol
                      I'd take the Asik deal over Fields. That's because we've been watching Landry Fields for 2 years straight and he has shown ZERO improvement.

                      ehh hit the nail on the head. Fields is not much different than a D-League swingman.

                      We're not trying to bash Fields...this is just the truth. He's not worth $20M over 3 years.

                      I can't wait for the Knicks to tell him and Nash to take a hike.

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                      • DieHardYankee26
                        BING BONG
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 10178

                        #86
                        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

                        If they're willing to spend that much money on Landry Fields JUST to get Steve Nash, they might as well just offer Nash the max and skip the Landry Fields step.
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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #87
                          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

                          Originally posted by 23
                          He's not the right fit, and the motive behind it is what makes it even worse
                          Originally posted by NYJets
                          At least Asik is a useful player. Raptors paid $20 million to give them a better shot at Nash. Fields doesn't help them at all.

                          If Nash turned around and went to Dallas now...
                          Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                          I'd take the Asik deal over Fields. That's because we've been watching Landry Fields for 2 years straight and he has shown ZERO improvement.

                          ehh hit the nail on the head. Fields is not much different than a D-League swingman.

                          We're not trying to bash Fields...this is just the truth. He's not worth $20M over 3 years.

                          I can't wait for the Knicks to tell him and Nash to take a hike.
                          Agree with the three of you.

                          Honestly though, what is Landry worth? I said 4-5 mill....

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                          • Weeks
                            L Corleone
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2990

                            #88
                            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

                            Fields FT% dropped from 77% as a rookie to 56%. And his three from 39% to 25%
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                            • bigeastbumrush
                              My Momma's Son
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19245

                              #89
                              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

                              Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                              If they're willing to spend that much money on Landry Fields JUST to get Steve Nash, they might as well just offer Nash the max and skip the Landry Fields step.
                              Too late

                              The smartest men in the room in TOR thought this was a game of poker.

                              #lockoutreasons

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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #90
                                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012

                                Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                                Nash isn't worth all that.

                                The Knicks aren't trying to get Joe Johnson'd.

                                We already had every PG on the roster break down last year. By that 3rd year...Nash's back will be toast.

                                It felt nice to get Nash but not mortgaging the farm for him.

                                Knicks need to move on ASAP.
                                I love Shump but we've got to try to hit a home run. This team is all about the present, winning time is now. I think Lin and Nash could play together a decent amount too.

                                Nash
                                JR Smith
                                Melo
                                Amare
                                Chandler

                                Lin
                                Novak
                                FA Big
                                FA Guard

                                compared to...

                                Lin
                                Shumpert
                                Melo
                                Amare
                                Chandler

                                Felton/Foye/etc
                                JR Smith
                                Novak
                                FA Big


                                With Nash we get the $100m Amare that we want. The ball movement will get much better. Melo will get easier looks. Obviously we lose our defensive guy to put on other good perimeter players but I think we have to take the chance.

                                My theory is that with Nash we get a much better Amare, a better Melo and a still efficient Chandler. Hopefully a better JR too.

                                I'm also in the group that feels Lin is a middle of the road starting point guard and that without Nash the team probably won't get past the ECSF.
                                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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