Yeah, again I'm a Laker fan but I never pick the Lakers cuz I'm PG dominant I'd pick Wizards, Kings, Memphis over the years, and this last year was Detroit. I was going to finally take my Lakers this year in 2K13, but I doubt anyone lets me use them.
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Yeah, again I'm a Laker fan but I never pick the Lakers cuz I'm PG dominant I'd pick Wizards, Kings, Memphis over the years, and this last year was Detroit. I was going to finally take my Lakers this year in 2K13, but I doubt anyone lets me use them.Preaching SIM & playing ARCADE ? C'mon son ! -
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Heat dont have to worry cause the Lakers arent getting by OKC.
Nash is a liability on D and Westbrook will just eat him up.
The other Lakers are all injury prone, including Howard.
One or two injuries and the Lakers are done and out.
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Injuries can happen to any team.
Right now on paper the Lakers have the best starting 5 in the league if this trade goes thru.
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Who said the Lakers were better than the Thunder? It's still early days but I'll give the Thunder the edge for now.
Sefolosha can guard Kobe and Perkins & Ibaka can guard Pau & Dwight. I can't really the same for Nash against Westbrook though. Then you got the best scorer in the league & the reigning sixth man.
Yes Bosh has the size to guard DH (not saying he will stop him completely), but offensively, Bosh can stretch the floor and take DH out of the paint, thus opening the lane for LeBron & Wade to penetrate.
C: yes
PG: no. Chalmers is a solid contributor for the Heat and will have no problems matching up with Nash.
Without a doubt the Lakers probably have the best starting five on paper but have limited depth. It's a long season and there are too many factors to account for at this point. Either way, it will be a very good match-up.Last edited by vtcha; 08-10-2012, 06:28 AM.Comment
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LOL the laker offer is no where near this offer. RidiculousThe final offer Brooklyn put on the table for Orlando would have been Lopez, Kris Humphries at one-year, $9.6 million, MarShon Brooks and four unprotected first round picks for Howard, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Earl Clark.Comment
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Because drawing attention to yourself as a prior banned user is always a bad thing...Twitter - WTF_OS
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I appreciate the sentiments.You know I actually got used to interacting with humble, realistic, non-****-talking Lakers fans like ex, Boltman, Drewski and Rawdeal (sorry if I forgot anyone else, there's quite a few of y'all). Thanks for reintroducing me to the reality that is almost all of the Lakers fanbase: rude, arrogant, constant-****-talking douchebags.
That post of his you quoted was beyond over the top obnoxious. I literally logged off last night after that post. I knew it wouldn't end well.
Either way onward with the days discussions...
I mentioned this in the NBA off topic thread, I was watching Mike & Mike this morning and Van Pelt is subbing in for Golic. He broke out his Steven A impression and I was cracking up. He has his speech cadence down perfectly.
Pretty interesting view on the trade (I'll spoiler it so as not to overflow this thread with the trade talk that is probably disgusting to many by now).
Spoilerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/...-dwight-howardFor the second time this summer, the Lakers have stepped to the plate and knocked one out of the park.
First, it was the sign-and-trade deal bringing Steve Nash to Los Angeles in exchange for ... nobody.
Now, the Lakers have acquired Orlando's Dwight Howard, a truly elite player who at 26 is only now entering his prime, and have done so at as small a cost as could possibly be expected -- Andrew Bynum and a future first-round pick. The four-team trade, which also includes Denver and Philadelphia, will be submitted for league approval Friday morning, sources told ESPN on Thursday night. And it will not include Pau Gasol.
Allow me to summarize the analysis you'll see below in two words:
It's on.
If the Lakers were on the cusp of contention in the Western Conference after the Nash deal -- very competitive but still a tick below Miami and Oklahoma City -- they're now at worst in the center (no pun intended) of the conversation and at best could lead it. Assuming Howard recovers well from the back surgery from which he's currently rehabbing -- and I don't think the Lakers would have pulled the trigger without doing their due diligence -- the Lakers have added a top-five player and the most dominant defensive force in the NBA to a lineup already including Nash, Gasol and, of course, Kobe Bryant.
Add solid bench depth, particularly in the frontcourt with Antawn Jamison and Jordan Hill, and this has the makings of a truly special team.
Last week, I laid out the reasons it was worth it for the Lakers to see this through to the end, despite all the Dwight-related fatigue from basketball fans across the universe. Bynum is an outstanding player and should have a great career, but Howard is a transcendent talent and represents an upgrade for a few reasons:
1. Defense. In four of the past five seasons, Howard has led the league in defensive win shares. In the fifth season (this past one), he was third. He is mobile in the pick-and-roll game and has the ability to shut down a team's attack at the rim. Before the trade, the team's greatest liability was on the defensive side of the ball. Nash is not a stopper. Kobe is getting older. Gasol is underrated, but isn't Dennis Rodman. Bynum's commitment to defense has always fluctuated. On the other hand, Howard's ability both to clean up mistakes from the weakside and cover massive chunks of territory on the floor allows teammates both to help with more confidence and stick to their men, depending on the situation.
With Howard, the Lakers have instant credibility as a defensive team. Mike Brown is a happy man.
2. He fits better with Nash. Simply put, Howard is a devastatingly effective finisher in the pick-and-roll. Over the past two seasons, Synergy grades him as the most effective player as the roll man in the P-n-R among players with enough possessions to be statistically relevant. He also is great as a cutter, and has the mobility to move in and out of the lane as Nash probes for space. And in those instances in which the Lakers choose to utilize a Nash-induced fast break, Howard will be awfully handy. Having kept Gasol, the Lakers field a team with offensive versatility that is off the charts.
3. Athleticism. Bynum is a rare figure, with perhaps the softest hands of any big in the league. But athletically, he's not Howard, and athleticism is an attribute in short supply with these Lakers.
Bottom line, Howard represents an upgrade in almost every way over Bynum, assuming good health for both. Even as a post player, Howard might not have Bynum's aesthetic quality, but the ball goes in the basket just as much, if not more. Two seasons ago, measured by points per play, Howard actually outscored Bynum in the post, and last season, he wasn't far behind. But the idea Howard isn't a very effective offensive player simply doesn't hold water.
There are risks. Howard's back is a concern. He's not going to sign an extension before the end of the season, and until he re-ups with the Lakers, the possibility exists he could go somewhere else. I don't think he will, but it's a possibility. However, the same, of course, was true of Bynum. The Lakers now have four guys capable of scoring as No. 1 options, meaning everyone from Kobe on down is going to have to give a little. And obviously the Lakers have committed themselves to spending about eleventyzillion dollars in payroll. Next season, there's a good chance they'll be deep into the super tax while their revenue-sharing obligations increase exponentially. Even with their massive Time Warner TV deal, we're talking about some serious financial outlays.
It wouldn't surprise me if next season's entertainment between the third and fourth quarters is the passing of a collection plate through Staples Center. If so, please give generously.
The Lakers deserve it. The transformation of this team over the past couple of months has been nothing short of stunning. The Lakers have gone from a team hoping to somehow remain relevant in the final stretch of Kobe's career to a true title contender and potentially one of the most entertaining teams the franchise has ever produced. That's no small statement. They have acquired among the greatest point guards in league history and now their next superstar. This while keeping everything but the one piece (Bynum) that became totally redundant with the arrival of Howard.
The circumstances under which they are operating have never been tougher, but once again, the Lakers got it done.
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The questions for this Lakers team to me are:
Can Kobe thrive in an offense where he's not ball-dominant?
Can Kobe and Nash continue to hold up after all of the minutes/games they've logged?
Will Nash (especially) be able to hold up without PHO training staff?
What is going on with D12's back?
Will they be able to build enough chemistry to win it all this year?
How much will Artest regress this year and how will it affect his defensive ability?
Are they going to play their starting 5 for 40+ minutes per game?
What production are they going to get out of their second unit of Blake, Ebanks, Jamison, McRoberts and Hill?
How in the world are the Lakers able to reload whenever they need to?
Can Mike Brown coach this team?
They look ridiculous on paper and easily have a chance to be one of the best teams (if not the favorite) to win it all this year. However, the questions I listed are real.
All questions aside, barring injuries, this is potentially the most top-heavy I've seen in the league in a while with the talent that Miami, LA and OKC possess.Acts 2:38. Let the truth be told.
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This team is on a different level, and that team still made it to finals.....
LA clearly goes into season as the bet, it doesn't necessarily mean they will win it all, but no one can seriously tell me they are not better than every other team in the league right now.
I read some people say you are going from Bynum to Howard, how does that make you so much better.....Bynum's D pales in comparison to Howard, and although Drew has a better post game, Howard's athleticism is unstoppable; and of course one of the best passers in NBA history will be lookong for him.
Barring injuries, this is a 65+ win team.
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Fixed that for you. I root for the basketball gods to allow LA and Miami to be swallowed up in the Earth every year.So let's see:
2010 Offseason: A lot of guys root for the Lakers because of what the Heat did.
2011 Offseason: A lot of guys root for the Heat because they were falling sorry for Lebron
2012 Offseason: A lot of guys root for OKC???? Or at the least, roots against LA?
And despite all that they made it to the Finals and lost in large part because Kobe and Shaq were at the height of their hate for each other at the time.
I swear the Lakers are like Bieber or one of the Jonas brothers or some **** and the rest of the league are a bunch of preteen/teenage girls. So whenever a team calls the other for a trade, no problem. However the phone rings and it's the Lakers on the end and teams go ape ****. It's like they're so star struck like....'the Lakers are actually talking to us?!?!' Then they proceed to get raped.Comment
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So Professa, still defending Orlando management...
This is ridiculousness to the max...
Lets look at what Denver got for Carmelo:
Yes Orlando gets 3 picks but all from Playoff teams! Each team in that deal makes it out better than Orlando and they have the best piece. Obviously you never get full value but come on.Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors' 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors' 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.Comment
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If I'm the Bulls, as soon as I'm able to do it, I'm calling up Orlando about Afflalo for some of these expirings we'll have before the trade deadline.
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Of course, we aren't the Lakers though, so as soon as we do call, the Magic will certainly have no need for expiring deals and not give a **** about further cap flexibility.Last edited by King_B_Mack; 08-10-2012, 08:04 AM.Comment

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