He had to come out this year to get a first round contract because next year he would have been benched and headed towards the 2nd round. I think a lot of fringe first round talent will come out this year because they know they will have no shot next year of being a first round selection. The lottery alone could consist of 10 one and done players by itself which will push down the upper class men.
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He had to come out this year to get a first round contract because next year he would have been benched and headed towards the 2nd round. I think a lot of fringe first round talent will come out this year because they know they will have no shot next year of being a first round selection. The lottery alone could consist of 10 one and done players by itself which will push down the upper class men."This is for all of my peoples who understand and truly recognize. Some won't get it and for that i won't apologize"- Talib Kweli -
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Latest DX update has Oladipo up to #5, Shabazz down to #9. Sounds right to me, been saying that all year. Porter is also ahead of Shabazz which will probably stir up some debate.
1. Noel
2. McLemore
3. Smart
4. Bennett
5. Oladipo
I don't know, maybe it's because they're young and GMs/scouts see more potential but from what I saw this year there's no way I'm taking Smart or Bennett over VO. Bennett seems like he'll be lucky to be Brandon Bass. Smart, I dunno either. I'm not convinced he'll ever be a starter on a halfway decent NBA team."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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Big matchup draft stock wise Saturday with Burke vs. MCW.NFL: Bills
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Latest DX update has Oladipo up to #5, Shabazz down to #9. Sounds right to me, been saying that all year. Porter is also ahead of Shabazz which will probably stir up some debate.
1. Noel
2. McLemore
3. Smart
4. Bennett
5. Oladipo
I don't know, maybe it's because they're young and GMs/scouts see more potential but from what I saw this year there's no way I'm taking Smart or Bennett over VO. Bennett seems like he'll be lucky to be Brandon Bass. Smart, I dunno either. I'm not convinced he'll ever be a starter on a halfway decent NBA team.
For me I like
1. Burke
2. Oladipo
3. Noel
4. Bennett
5. McLemore/ Muhammad/ SmartYou looking at the Chair MAN!
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He's been consistent total numbers wise, but if you look at his game log, he's had a lot of games where he goes like 5/15 (talking about Burke). A lot of what MCW does are the little nuances of the game that casual fans don't really notice. Just the way he can manipulate the defense with his eyes and little effort plays you don't see often...diving on the floor for a ball and then rolling the ball through a defenders legs down the court for an easy layup for a teammate. He's just a really creative player. He isn't as good as Rubio, but he's Rubio-esq, and he's playing better than probably anybody in the tournament right now. And while Burke is basically nothing without the pick and roll, MCW is very good at beating his man one on one.NFL: Bills
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I don't know..... MCW has been really turnover prone. I've seen him make some very boneheaded plays during the regular season. This tournament he's been playing very well. Not forcing too many shots. I agree with the play making.
But my friends are not causal fans. They're Cuse fans and don't miss a game.
But I think Trey is rated higher than MCW in most mock drafts.Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
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Not sure if I feel the Rubio-MCW comparisons, even if it's not supposed to be a direct one.#RespectTheCultureComment
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I don't know..... MCW has been really turnover prone. I've seen him make some very boneheaded plays during the regular season. This tournament he's been playing very well. Not forcing too many shots. I agree with the play making.
But my friends are not causal fans. They're Cuse fans and don't miss a game.
But I think Trey is rated higher than MCW in most mock drafts.
You're definitely correct that at this point, Burke has passed him in just about all mocks. It'll be interesting to see how the PGs grade out when they get into workouts and stuff and even in the game on Saturday. I'm personally hoping that if Milwaukee lets Jennings go, we can pick up MCW (though I don't think he'll slip that far in the draft at this point). I think he's going to be a better pro than Burke, but we'll see.
Burke has started to turn the ball over a lot more recently than he did during the regular season, and he hasn't really found his shot yet in the tournament.
The closest comparison for MCW at this point is definitely Livingston. I'm just saying he's a creative playmaker the way that Rubio is.NFL: Bills
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I've struggled with putting my finger on what it is about MCW's game that makes me hesitant to believe he'll be a good pro. I've watched a lot of him and I think he just doesn't pass the eye test for me.
He has some bad turnovers and can struggle with getting by smaller, quicker guards sometimes but I doubt that'll be an issue in the NBA. Who knows, he'll probably be a very good PnR guy in the NBA.
Grevis Vasquez is no home run athlete and is a taller PG, was very turnover-prone at Maryland and he's turned out quite well."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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He's been consistent total numbers wise, but if you look at his game log, he's had a lot of games where he goes like 5/15 (talking about Burke). A lot of what MCW does are the little nuances of the game that casual fans don't really notice. Just the way he can manipulate the defense with his eyes and little effort plays you don't see often...diving on the floor for a ball and then rolling the ball through a defenders legs down the court for an easy layup for a teammate. He's just a really creative player. He isn't as good as Rubio, but he's Rubio-esq, and he's playing better than probably anybody in the tournament right now. And while Burke is basically nothing without the pick and roll, MCW is very good at beating his man one on one.Wolverines Packers Cubs Celtics
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Doesn't the NBA run a bunch of Pick and Roll's or did I miss something.
Also Burke has an incredible step back. I don't have the #'s on him on iso's but you couldn't be more wrong IMO.
I dunno how he'll do as a pro. I think he'll be a solid NBA PG and I'm quite confident in saying that.Wolverines Packers Cubs Celtics
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