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  • Defel
    Pr*
    • Oct 2002
    • 1345

    #61
    Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

    Yeah, then all the retired players would get eclipsed in the record books. John Stockton would be forgotten.

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    • SonicMage
      NBA Ratings Wizard
      • Oct 2002
      • 3544

      #62
      Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

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      Bad_Intentions said:
      what if the guy only hits 1 ft, would it count as half an assist? i've heard that idea kicked around, but i hope it stays as is for now.

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      I would say count it as an assist if he makes at least one free throw. Its not like players get 1.5 assists for assisting a three-pointer either, right?
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      • SonicMage
        NBA Ratings Wizard
        • Oct 2002
        • 3544

        #63
        Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

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        Bad_Intentions said:
        what if the guy only hits 1 ft, would it count as half an assist? i've heard that idea kicked around, but i hope it stays as is for now.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        I would say count it as an assist if he makes at least one free throw. Its not like players get 1.5 assists for assisting a three-pointer either, right?
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        • SonicMage
          NBA Ratings Wizard
          • Oct 2002
          • 3544

          #64
          Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          Bad_Intentions said:
          what if the guy only hits 1 ft, would it count as half an assist? i've heard that idea kicked around, but i hope it stays as is for now.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          I would say count it as an assist if he makes at least one free throw. Its not like players get 1.5 assists for assisting a three-pointer either, right?
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          Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
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          Link to Ratings 1973-1996
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          Discussion found here

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          • Jebby

            #65
            Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

            What about when it's like 5 seconds left in the game and the defense have to commit a foul to stop the clock? Everyone on the offensive team would be fighting over who inbounds the ball. They pass it in. The guy is fouled, he makes the FT's. Assist to the inbounder.

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            • Jebby

              #66
              Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

              What about when it's like 5 seconds left in the game and the defense have to commit a foul to stop the clock? Everyone on the offensive team would be fighting over who inbounds the ball. They pass it in. The guy is fouled, he makes the FT's. Assist to the inbounder.

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              • Jebby

                #67
                Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

                What about when it's like 5 seconds left in the game and the defense have to commit a foul to stop the clock? Everyone on the offensive team would be fighting over who inbounds the ball. They pass it in. The guy is fouled, he makes the FT's. Assist to the inbounder.

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                • ShaKobe
                  G* L*k* Sh*w!!!
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 2964

                  #68
                  Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

                  I don't think that rule would get put in. I like the idea, but it would definitely skew what the numbers really mean. It's fine the way it is right now.

                  Here's another one. Kick ball. I like when it is used when someone is directly kicking at the ball. What I don't like is when someone passes the ball, and they happen to throw a bad pass, and it hits another players leg. The other player made no attempt at lifting his leg to hit the ball, but they still call kick ball. They should make it clear that if the leg that hits it was intentional moved to kick or intercept the ball, then it should be deemed as a kick ball. Otherwise, GAME ON!!!

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                  • ShaKobe
                    G* L*k* Sh*w!!!
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 2964

                    #69
                    Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

                    I don't think that rule would get put in. I like the idea, but it would definitely skew what the numbers really mean. It's fine the way it is right now.

                    Here's another one. Kick ball. I like when it is used when someone is directly kicking at the ball. What I don't like is when someone passes the ball, and they happen to throw a bad pass, and it hits another players leg. The other player made no attempt at lifting his leg to hit the ball, but they still call kick ball. They should make it clear that if the leg that hits it was intentional moved to kick or intercept the ball, then it should be deemed as a kick ball. Otherwise, GAME ON!!!

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                    • ShaKobe
                      G* L*k* Sh*w!!!
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 2964

                      #70
                      Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

                      I don't think that rule would get put in. I like the idea, but it would definitely skew what the numbers really mean. It's fine the way it is right now.

                      Here's another one. Kick ball. I like when it is used when someone is directly kicking at the ball. What I don't like is when someone passes the ball, and they happen to throw a bad pass, and it hits another players leg. The other player made no attempt at lifting his leg to hit the ball, but they still call kick ball. They should make it clear that if the leg that hits it was intentional moved to kick or intercept the ball, then it should be deemed as a kick ball. Otherwise, GAME ON!!!

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                      • Dynasty4Kobe
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 2769

                        #71
                        Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

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                        Sonicmage said:
                        A lot of people disagree with me but I will tell with an example what rule I'd like to see.

                        Here's the example: New Jersey Nets - JKidd runs the break after a nice defensive play. Its, say, 3 on 2. Kidd makes a nice fakeout on the man trying to guard him in order to make a perfect dish to Jefferson. Jefferson looks like he has a nice lane to the basket but is fouled in the act of shooting on a dunk/layup attempt. Jefferson makes both free throws.

                        What I dont like about this situation is that Kidd does not get an assist. The rules clearly state that an assist is awarded to someone who passes to someone who makes a field goal. I think this should be modified to say "someone who scores a point". After all, many NBA rules are instituted based on "possessions" and free throw attempts fall under the same possession as the attempted layup.

                        As I said before, most people disagree with me on this but I believe it would be more fair to whomever set up the foulee with the successful pass.

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        Karl Malone attempted close to the most free throws in NBA history, basically because of Stocktan. Stocktan would have averaged an insane number of assists.

                        Also if this rule does go down, it will be very misleading. I mean, Rick Fox could average 10 assists per game because the SF usually throws in the ball to SHaq which is almost a guarenteed foul. A lot of things that like that would mess up the rule.

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                        • Dynasty4Kobe
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 2769

                          #72
                          Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          Sonicmage said:
                          A lot of people disagree with me but I will tell with an example what rule I'd like to see.

                          Here's the example: New Jersey Nets - JKidd runs the break after a nice defensive play. Its, say, 3 on 2. Kidd makes a nice fakeout on the man trying to guard him in order to make a perfect dish to Jefferson. Jefferson looks like he has a nice lane to the basket but is fouled in the act of shooting on a dunk/layup attempt. Jefferson makes both free throws.

                          What I dont like about this situation is that Kidd does not get an assist. The rules clearly state that an assist is awarded to someone who passes to someone who makes a field goal. I think this should be modified to say "someone who scores a point". After all, many NBA rules are instituted based on "possessions" and free throw attempts fall under the same possession as the attempted layup.

                          As I said before, most people disagree with me on this but I believe it would be more fair to whomever set up the foulee with the successful pass.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          Karl Malone attempted close to the most free throws in NBA history, basically because of Stocktan. Stocktan would have averaged an insane number of assists.

                          Also if this rule does go down, it will be very misleading. I mean, Rick Fox could average 10 assists per game because the SF usually throws in the ball to SHaq which is almost a guarenteed foul. A lot of things that like that would mess up the rule.

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                          • Dynasty4Kobe
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 2769

                            #73
                            Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            Sonicmage said:
                            A lot of people disagree with me but I will tell with an example what rule I'd like to see.

                            Here's the example: New Jersey Nets - JKidd runs the break after a nice defensive play. Its, say, 3 on 2. Kidd makes a nice fakeout on the man trying to guard him in order to make a perfect dish to Jefferson. Jefferson looks like he has a nice lane to the basket but is fouled in the act of shooting on a dunk/layup attempt. Jefferson makes both free throws.

                            What I dont like about this situation is that Kidd does not get an assist. The rules clearly state that an assist is awarded to someone who passes to someone who makes a field goal. I think this should be modified to say "someone who scores a point". After all, many NBA rules are instituted based on "possessions" and free throw attempts fall under the same possession as the attempted layup.

                            As I said before, most people disagree with me on this but I believe it would be more fair to whomever set up the foulee with the successful pass.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            Karl Malone attempted close to the most free throws in NBA history, basically because of Stocktan. Stocktan would have averaged an insane number of assists.

                            Also if this rule does go down, it will be very misleading. I mean, Rick Fox could average 10 assists per game because the SF usually throws in the ball to SHaq which is almost a guarenteed foul. A lot of things that like that would mess up the rule.

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                            • bigeastbumrush
                              My Momma's Son
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19245

                              #74
                              Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

                              -The Charging circle/arc in the lane
                              Dump it. It seems like a good idea, but it is rarely called correctly. Charging/Blocking foul calls are usually judgmental anyway, depending on whether or not the defender held his ground or is moving. I think there should be only moving violations called.

                              -Do away with Palming violations.
                              I think if they correctly called Travelling violations (everyone seems to get away with it) and eliminated Palming violations, it may even itself out. I don't see Palming the ball as a big deterioration of the game. If it was allowed, I just think games may be a bit more exciting.

                              -Increase Team Fouls before your team gets put into the Penalty
                              I dunno. I hate when a team is in the Penalty 1/2 way into a quarter. I don't know what the number of fouls should be, but it should be raised from 5.

                              -Implement the 1-and-1.
                              I think individual scoring averages would drop (Shaq) with less free throw attempts, but team scoring averages would increase with more possessions.

                              -Eliminate the leaving the bench auto suspension during a fight.
                              THE MIAMI HEAT STOLE THAT PLAYOFF SERIES FROM THE KNICKS!

                              Seriously though, they study the game tape before making suspensions, so if any player didn't participate in the fight and tried to break it up, they shouldn't get suspended IMO.

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                              • bigeastbumrush
                                My Momma's Son
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19245

                                #75
                                Re: Some Rules that the NBA should lose / add . . .

                                -The Charging circle/arc in the lane
                                Dump it. It seems like a good idea, but it is rarely called correctly. Charging/Blocking foul calls are usually judgmental anyway, depending on whether or not the defender held his ground or is moving. I think there should be only moving violations called.

                                -Do away with Palming violations.
                                I think if they correctly called Travelling violations (everyone seems to get away with it) and eliminated Palming violations, it may even itself out. I don't see Palming the ball as a big deterioration of the game. If it was allowed, I just think games may be a bit more exciting.

                                -Increase Team Fouls before your team gets put into the Penalty
                                I dunno. I hate when a team is in the Penalty 1/2 way into a quarter. I don't know what the number of fouls should be, but it should be raised from 5.

                                -Implement the 1-and-1.
                                I think individual scoring averages would drop (Shaq) with less free throw attempts, but team scoring averages would increase with more possessions.

                                -Eliminate the leaving the bench auto suspension during a fight.
                                THE MIAMI HEAT STOLE THAT PLAYOFF SERIES FROM THE KNICKS!

                                Seriously though, they study the game tape before making suspensions, so if any player didn't participate in the fight and tried to break it up, they shouldn't get suspended IMO.

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