Yoa Ming

[Will]

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Have you guys been watching basketball these past few years? Seriously. Name one other Shaq in the league besides Shaq. There really aren't any big, physical centers in the league anymore. That's why Shaq is seemingly unstoppable (among many, many other things). Why draft for a guy who can contend with Shaq, when Shaq will be out of the league within two years?

And if you notice, teams CAN contend with the Lakers. The Kings should have beat them. Not once did I ever hear the Kings complain about the horrific officiating. Sure, I heard the rest of the country complain, but never the Kings. And if you want to say that that game wasn't reffed one sided, I will laugh at you. Only Lakers fans and people who don't even know a thing about basketball have made that claim.

Yao will be a great player to have in the NBA that is developing. Gone are the huge, immobile guys. The league is much more athletic, and you can't really get more athletic than Yao at the center spot.

It all comes down to the fact that Yao has loads of talent, and has loads of potential. You don't draft people to contend with other people, especially when that person will not be around when your draftee fully develops his talent.

[Dman13]

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My prediction for Yao's first year.
Rookie Of The Year 2002-2003
1st Rookie Team
15.6 PPG 6.7 BPG 0.4 SPG 9.2 RPG
And he will be 2nd best on his team next to Stevie Franchise.

[deadman]

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Watch Basketball all the time, even subscribe to it via League Pass. Who watches and who doesn't. When is the last time a jump shoting team won the championship? Let me see we recent memory we have the Bulls who had a tough inside presence whether Cartwright, Grant or Rodman. We have the Rockets which had "The Dream" and Otis Thorpe. We had the Spurs with Robinson and Duncan. Finally we have the Lakers with Shaq. Is there a pattern here? Most of these teams have a physical presence inside who is mobile and doesn't get ran out of the paint because lack of strength to play inside!!! Ming will be alright because of his size and mobility. I agree there is a lack of "true" centers in the league and that most bigger players are becoming more mobile and offer a different game of basketball (ex: Garnett, Dirk, Gasol). As I mentioned before, this years draft did not have a dominate inside presence other than Ming so the Rockets drafted him number 1. I don't think he is worthy of a number 1 spot. Hypothetically if this years draft had a smaller center/pf say of Mourning's prowless (A player a Shaq's ability is to easy a pick) and ability would Ming went number one. I doubt it.

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We had the Spurs with Robinson and Duncan

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those were two big guys who could ball, shoot and rebound, and Divac and Webber, did as well as you can against the lakers and shaq.

Also I heard Adleman in every press conference for the games they lost, complain about it, Webber and Divac too.

In game 5 everyone knows that Kobe was fouled and mauled by Bobby Jackson, but who won the game the Kings. The officiating was biased against the lakers if anything.

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I've always thought he was a chinese shawn Bradley with a bit more range. I'm sure Shaq is looking forward to brutalizing him. Should be interesting though....

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And if you notice, teams CAN contend with the Lakers. The Kings should have beat them. Not once did I ever hear the Kings complain about the horrific officiating. Sure, I heard the rest of the country complain, but never the Kings. And if you want to say that that game wasn't reffed one sided, I will laugh at you. Only Lakers fans and people who don't even know a thing about basketball have made that claim.


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Whoa!! I know this is an old dead topic, but I can't let that slide. You're saying the Kings never once complained about the officiating? I guess u didn't watch the post game conferences on ESPNEWS. The fact is the Kings did bitch and complain quite a bit and another fact is both teams had to deal with questionable officiating. And the last, most important fact is, game 7 was a fairly officiated game for both teams. And the Lakers won it, in Sacramento.

[Will]

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This is the one topic in a long time that is getting really hard to reply to. Stupid boredom.

Ok, as for ther champs of the past decade. If you weren't so hard up to make a point, you would see this isn't even an issue. The Bulls had a strong inside presence? Really? Someone phone Larry Brown, he's got a gold mine in Todd MacCulloch. (Where's the eye rolling smiley?)

I'm sure Jordan and Pippen had NOTHING to do with their 6 championships. (Again, eye rolly needed)

And then you list the Rockets, who have one of the greatest centers EVER, the Spurs, who have two future hall of fame big men, and the Lakers, who have Shaq, as examples of why "jump shooting" teams haven't won. Bundle all of that freaking talent into jump shooters, and I guarantee they'd storm over everyone. Guaranteed.

Oh, and let's not forget to mention that the Lakers also have Kobe Bryant, who I would say is more of the reason they are winning than Shaq.

See, the problem isn't with the style of play, it's in where the talent is being allocated in terms of positions. There have been a lot of great centers in the past decade, some of the ebst ever, but it's very, very obvious the league is shifting.

Bama, you can not honestly say that the refs favored the Kings in that series. I'll respect your opinion if you say it was officiated fairly, because you could make a case for that, but in the Kings favor? No dice, man.

Mad, el Lakers fan numero uno, notice I said I never saw the Kings complain. Stupid semantics. If you want to dispute what I did and did not see, go for it. I watch SportsCenter religiously, and honestly, I never saw them say a thing. Maybe I didn't watch it the next morning or something, but I never saw it.

And yes, game 7 was officiated fine, but that's a horribly desperate point to make. There should not have been a game 7, plain and simple.

I apologize if I've come off brash, but I've yet to hear anyone here say anything that the trendy sportswriters haven't been saying lately. But hey, everyone is entitled to form their own opinions however they please.

[TheMatrix31]

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Seriously, game 4 and 6 were ridiculous! How do you Laker fans sit there with this serious face about it??? There is NO question about it. The Lakers got HANDED game 4 AND even worse game 6. If you cant admit it, then something is seriously wrong with you.

Bamaman, I have to to disagree about Jackson/Bryant. Jackson didnt do crap to him. I've watched the video a thousand times probably and I havent seen anything.

I dont know, whats done is done, and I just want ONE Laker fan to admit they got handed the series.

[Gizmo]

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I don't know if your're going to have a Laker fan tell you that they were handed the series. If the Lakers were handed game 6, then you have to look at game 5.

As for game 4, the Kings played good throughtout the whole game, but just collasped at the end. I actually thought they were going to run out with the win, but couldn't put it together to win the game. That's why Horry hit the big shot. I'm not saying Horry made a difference, but if it wasn't for that shot, then there wouldn't be a game 6 or maybe a 7.

[TheMatrix31]

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Samaki Walker's shot.

[Gizmo]

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Even if he didn't hit that shot, it wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome. There was still 24 minutes left to play in the game. Either team could have won the game.

[TheMatrix31]

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I think it wouldve.....the momentum would be completely different, causing the players to most likely perform differently.

But even with the obvious ref help, the Kings STILL had their chances and they didnt hit their FT's. Simple as that.

[Gizmo]

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The momentum didn't REALLY carry over into the second half. I just thing the media made a big deal out of it. And what I mean by that is NBC.

Yeah, when crunch time came, the Kings couldn't get the job done. It's that simple.

But it's now the past and it's time to move on onto another basketaball season.

[TheMatrix31]

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Not as much as the momentum, but their player morale.....it wouldnt be as shot...hehe

Ya, new season, new challenges.....Phoenix probably wont make the playoffs, and if they do, it'd be a first round exit most likely.....just waitin for my man Amare to develop...then we'll be a force.

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Mad, el Lakers fan numero uno, notice I said I never saw the Kings complain. Stupid semantics. If you want to dispute what I did and did not see, go for it. I watch SportsCenter religiously, and honestly, I never saw them say a thing. Maybe I didn't watch it the next morning or something, but I never saw it.

And yes, game 7 was officiated fine, but that's a horribly desperate point to make. There should not have been a game 7, plain and simple.


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Bah! this topic is toooooo tired. And I'm tired of defending the Lakers championship to people. The better team won and that's that.