Yoa Ming

[Will]

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lol. I make a comment about that series, you feel the need to defend it, then bow out saying how tired the topic is. If it's tired, don't get involved. Plus, it's always a plus to have unbiased opinions in a discussion. Sorry man, but you can't offer that about the Lakers. Same is probably true when I talk about the Wolves.

Let's get the subject back on to Yao.

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I would say honestly that the officiating went both ways, but the Walker shot was just one of those calls, that's a mistake, with no real intention behind it. Jackson did foul the hell out of Kobe on that play, but that doesn't mean Kobe would have made that shot anyway.

But I am sick of King's fans telling me how they got jobbed, that's what being a sore loser is all about. They only gave the Lakers credit when the series was over, up until then, it was well the refs were against us, and we are still a better team, and Webber said "I'm not going to say they are better than us."(this was at the press conferences they come on espn 2 after the games-check them out some time)

But the Kings are a good team, but let's face it the better team did win. Not by much, but I don't think the Lakers care how close it was. So a new rivalry has begun, should be pretty interesting this year.

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well i am tired of it but i still can't let ridiculous comments slide. that's just me.

[anklbrkr24]

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Bamaman, I agree with you. I think the ref call it even one game the calls would go to the Kings and the next game to the Lakers. Game 7 was different the ref did their jobs and let the players play. Kings fan are just sore loser . We will see who the better team next season same players same results

[Gizmo]

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Yup, anklbrkr. I couldn't have said it better. The refs called game 7 fairly and the better team won. Time to move on the this season, where I think we will have the same results.

[Will]

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Ok, so game 7 was legit. That's one game. There's reasons the NBA doesn't do one game series in the playoffs. It doesn't tell you whether or not the better team won. The more games, the better idea you get. Of course, there's always chances for a fluke, and the lesser team to prevail, but as the number of games in a series goes up, that chance for a fluke goes down. That's why they play 7.

We'll never know if the better team at that time won that series, because it was so d!cked up by the refs. All we know is who won, and that's all. Not if they should have won, or if they were the better team, just simply that they won.

I guess that's all that matters, and if you want to hang your team's hat on that, go for it, but there's a huge window for people to climb into and say that that series was a bit fouled up, pardon the pun.

[Gizmo]

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Yeah, once the series was over, all I would hear is that "the Kings got robbed by the refs." I'm an openly minded person and I don't try to "shout out" people's opinions. It's just the fact that both teams play one hella of series that will always be remember as a great one.

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All we know is who won, and that's all. Not if they should have won, or if they were the better team, just simply that they won.

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I couldn't agree more.

[hdaniel1]

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I think the ref call it even one game the calls would go to the Kings and the next game to the Lakers.

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I agree, 100%. Just call it even. Let's wait till next season instead of the past.

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We'll never know if the better team at that time won that series, because it was so d!cked up by the refs. All we know is who won, and that's all. Not if they should have won, or if they were the better team, just simply that they won.


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I can't take it anymore, you are so full of it. Now you're blatantly denying that the Lakers were the better team. whatever...... all this talk is for nothing because the Lakers are wearing three rings, soon to be four.

[Will]

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When I watched that series, I saw the Kings outplay the Lakers in more games than not. If that opinion about a team that took another team to 7 games is so unfathomable, then you are a complete fanboy, which is what I'm pretty much leaning towards anyway. I love talking to about anything else, but please don't participate in conversations that have anything to do with the Lakers, because you've proven that you can't handle anything but Laker *** kissing. I believe the Kings outplayed the Lakers, and were thusly the better team that series. Freaking deal with it man. If you can't take it, quit interrupting this thread.

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if the Kings outplayed the Lakers and were the better team then they would have won, especially with home court advantage. But anyways, yes I am a rabid Lakers fan, call me a fanboy if need be, but the fact is I have complete gloating immunity due to the fact that my team has the two best players in the league and has won three straight titles.

[Will]

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You can't possibly be naive enough to think that just because someone is better than someone else at something that they will always prevail. If you put them in a freaking space vacuum, yes, maybe, but there's too many outside influences funking things up to even try and make that vanilla statement about anything in life.

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Will although overall I think the Lakers are a better team(when it comes to clutch time-cause they've been there so much). But I will agree that for 85% of the series Sacremento played better ball, but that 15% that the Lakers played better, was usually in the 4th quater and usually in the clutch, so having the experience of being there before the Lakers handled the pressure better when the heat was on and that allowed them to prevail. Just my .02.

[deadman]

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Talk about a dead topic with no relevence . I am no way a Lakers fan, but the bottom line is the Lakers HAVE the title. No amount of complaining is going to change it. No discussions of better teams or "what if" senarios mean squat. That was last season, everybody starts anew again in October. Lakers fan don't need to defend anything because it isn't going to change!

[Will]

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Ok, so using that logic, we should no longer discuss any sort of history. I mean, what's done is done, right? Why reflect? Why discuss? What's the point of talking about something that already happened? That'll never catch on.

If the discussion is irrelevant to you, then don't participate. Seriously. Is that unheard of? Some people like to talk basketball, no matter what we're talking about. Past championships, past series, past greats, etc.

Mad, I think we can agree then that the Kings outplayed the Lakers for a good majority, but the Lakers did what was needed when it was needed in order to win, and the Kings did what was needed when it was needed in order to lose. And the refs might, repeat MIGHT have possibly facilitated certain streaks and collapses throughout the series. I think we can just leave it at that.