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  • ex carrabba fan
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    • Oct 2004
    • 32744

    #16
    Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

    For those of you who say Paul George, do you ever see him doing half the things that KD already has? The answer is no.

    You're comparing guys cut from different cloth in the first place.

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    • BringTheHeat
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      • Jan 2012
      • 2264

      #17
      Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

      I'm a little surprised so many people are saying Durant. Sure Durant is one of the best scorers we've ever seen, but his defense is below average. PG is slightly above average on defense and about average on offense, give him a few years to work on his jumper and finishing and I think he'll be in that number 2 SF discussion.
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      • ex carrabba fan
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        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #18
        Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

        Just because his defense is better really doesn't mean a damn thing.. People are overrating the hell out of that

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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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          • Dec 2006
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          #19
          I don't think it's a diss to say George has more potential though. I don't think there's a chance he'll ever be better than Durant, but theoretically, with his defensive prowess and his weird combination of length and guard skills, I think he has more potential.
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          • ex carrabba fan
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            • Oct 2004
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            #20
            Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

            Ok but I don't think that makes any sense. If he has no chance of ever being better than what durant is now how the heck does that mean George has more potential? That's illogical

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            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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              • Dec 2006
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              #21
              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
              Ok but I don't think that makes any sense. If he has no chance of ever being better than what durant is now how the heck does that mean George has more potential? That's illogical
              I just don't think he'll ever reach that potential. It's like a guy like Lamar Odom... He had a ton of potential, just never reached it.
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              • ex carrabba fan
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                • Oct 2004
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                #22
                Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                I just don't think he'll ever reach that potential. It's like a guy like Lamar Odom... He had a ton of potential, just never reached it.
                Ah gotcha. I still think Durant has the higher ceiling simply because he will be contending for best overall player in the world for the rest of his career while I don't think George will ever enter that conversation.

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                • ClutchCity
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                  • Dec 2008
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                  #23
                  Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                  I think Durant has already reached his ceiling as far as potential. He's one of the best scoreres right now and a 3x scoring champ. I guess the world kind of saw him in the playoffs how dependable he was without a true post presence and Westbrook. He did fine, but it wasn't enough too get OKC back to the finals.

                  I think Paul George still has some things too learn, I mean he made his first all-star without playing alongside Danny Granger. But too me I think his team is much better than the Thunder. Not just saying it because of what the playoff bracket looks like right now. But because at every position in the starting rotation everyone can contribute on the floor much better than OKC team all-around. I think when it comes to scoring we will not see sky high numbers like 25 ppg because of the Pacers current system and Paul George's role on the floor. I think next season is a possibility of seeing Paul George receiving more shots on the floor if Pacers lose David West this off-season.

                  So with that being said I am going to take Paul George over Durant in the terms of who has the higher ceiling at this point. Versus who's better.

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                  • ex carrabba fan
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                    • Oct 2004
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                    #24
                    Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                    So you think George will one day be in the combo of best player and league MVP?

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                    • z Revis
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 13639

                      #25
                      Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      So you think George will one day be in the combo of best player and league MVP?
                      He didn't say that. I don't know why you keep thinking that because someone says PG has more potential that one day he'll be better or as good as Durant. It's two entirely different subjects.

                      People have been saying George has ridiculous potential from day one. He's long, he's tall, he can shoot the ball, he can finish at the rim, he can play defense, etc. This year was his breakout year and he's been pretty damn good. The only thing keeping him from becoming a superstar is scoring. And he has proven that he has the ability to score and put the team on his back.

                      IF he can produce more offensively in the coming years, I don't think there's anything to stop us from comparing him to other superstars in the league. But that's only IF. Right now he's still pretty inconsistent on that end.
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                      • ex carrabba fan
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                        • Oct 2004
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                        #26
                        Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                        Originally posted by z Revis
                        He didn't say that. I don't know why you keep thinking that because someone says PG has more potential that one day he'll be better or as good as Durant. It's two entirely different subjects.

                        People have been saying George has ridiculous potential from day one. He's long, he's tall, he can shoot the ball, he can finish at the rim, he can play defense, etc. This year was his breakout year and he's been pretty damn good. The only thing keeping him from becoming a superstar is scoring. And he has proven that he has the ability to score and put the team on his back.

                        IF he can produce more offensively in the coming years, I don't think there's anything to stop us from comparing him to other superstars in the league. But that's only IF. Right now he's still pretty inconsistent on that end.
                        Potential for what though? To be one of the best players in the world and to be MVP? That's what I was assuming. KD's potential from day one was pretty damn high as well. Much higher than George's.

                        So I'm just trying to figure out what people are really getting at with George.

                        The OP did clarify and say that he's asking who will end up being the better player.

                        So, in that case, I am saying George has little chance at ever being the player Durant is.

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                        • ClutchCity
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                          • Dec 2008
                          • 630

                          #27
                          Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                          So you think George will one day be in the combo of best player and league MVP?
                          To be honest I don't know what the future holds for George, but from what I do see and after his performance this season. I believe George can become one of the best swingman in the league. His all around effort is already great foundation, which naturally forms into a top player in the NBA.

                          Do I personally think he will be in the running for MVP? I think he could be but its all based on what the Pacers do in the front office in the future. I defiantly do think next season will be quite an interesting one for him because it will answer your question you asked. It's clear that Paul George can has a ceiling that has not been reached in my eyes. While Durant is already maxed out in his potential I believe.

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                          • z Revis
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 13639

                            #28
                            Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                            Potential for what though? To be one of the best players in the world and to be MVP? That's what I was assuming. KD's potential from day one was pretty damn high as well. Much higher than George's.

                            So I'm just trying to figure out what people are really getting at with George.

                            The OP did clarify and say that he's asking who will end up being the better player.

                            So, in that case, I am saying George has little chance at ever being the player Durant is.
                            It depends on how you look at potential. I can see where you're coming from now though.

                            With George I do think he can become one of the best players in the league. The thing with him is that it's not a case of can he do certain things. He has shown that he can do just about everything. It's consistency that's holding him back... and really just him not being aggressive enough night in and night out. I also think ClutchCity made a good point about the system that PG is in too, but if he can assert himself more and prove to Vogel he can be that go to guy night in and night out he'll be fine.

                            As far as who ends up being better, I'd be a fool to say George. At the end of the day, he's in his 3rd year. I'll give him another summer and we'll see what he looks like next year, but I can't think of many superstars throughout history where it took more than 4 years for them to become the player they were/are.
                            Last edited by z Revis; 05-27-2013, 11:36 AM.
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                            • dragonjaii
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                              • Oct 2012
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                              #29
                              Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                              Durant for sure. I love Paul Georges game, but he has to improve on his jump shot. Kevin Durant is a great jump shooter and he is still young also.
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                              • King_B_Mack
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                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #30
                                Re: Higher Ceiling, Paul George or Kevin Durant

                                Can anybody actually define what they mean by potential? Durant has a 7'5" wingspan and an extremely high bball IQ if he turns the corner defensively with his already ridiculous offensive gifts, there's no way in hell PG comes close to being a better player than him. BTW, KD 24 years old, PG 23. Both these guys have more than enough time to get better. As it stands right now, KD is much further advanced offensively than George is ahead of him defensively.

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