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  • bigeastbumrush
    My Momma's Son
    • Feb 2003
    • 19245

    #16
    Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

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    BigMike said:
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    bigeastbumrush said:
    I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

    Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

    Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

    Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

    Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

    Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

    Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

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    Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

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    I don't buy that.

    The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

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    • Tha_Kid
      All Star
      • Oct 2002
      • 6550

      #17
      Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

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      bigeastbumrush said:
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      BigMike said:
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      bigeastbumrush said:
      I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

      Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

      Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

      Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

      Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

      Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

      Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      I don't buy that.

      The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      Why is it absurd? I'm black and if I had a black coach, I feel like I could identify with him more, and yeah, maybe get away with some things. It's not that hard to see. He also used race because it summed up all the other things like salary, money and power (or the image of those things)

      Black coaches who get respect are enforcers like Paul Silas, whose rep says they are like a father figure to younger players. Thats why most of his players respect him and wouldn't be spouting off the same bullsh*t Big Dog is. Thats not a shot to other black coaches, but its true and Ayers' firing is more proof.

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      • Tha_Kid
        All Star
        • Oct 2002
        • 6550

        #18
        Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

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        bigeastbumrush said:
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        BigMike said:
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        bigeastbumrush said:
        I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

        Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

        Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

        Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

        Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

        Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

        Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        I don't buy that.

        The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        Why is it absurd? I'm black and if I had a black coach, I feel like I could identify with him more, and yeah, maybe get away with some things. It's not that hard to see. He also used race because it summed up all the other things like salary, money and power (or the image of those things)

        Black coaches who get respect are enforcers like Paul Silas, whose rep says they are like a father figure to younger players. Thats why most of his players respect him and wouldn't be spouting off the same bullsh*t Big Dog is. Thats not a shot to other black coaches, but its true and Ayers' firing is more proof.

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        • Tha_Kid
          All Star
          • Oct 2002
          • 6550

          #19
          Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

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          bigeastbumrush said:
          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          BigMike said:
          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          bigeastbumrush said:
          I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

          Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

          Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

          Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

          Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

          Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

          Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          I don't buy that.

          The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          Why is it absurd? I'm black and if I had a black coach, I feel like I could identify with him more, and yeah, maybe get away with some things. It's not that hard to see. He also used race because it summed up all the other things like salary, money and power (or the image of those things)

          Black coaches who get respect are enforcers like Paul Silas, whose rep says they are like a father figure to younger players. Thats why most of his players respect him and wouldn't be spouting off the same bullsh*t Big Dog is. Thats not a shot to other black coaches, but its true and Ayers' firing is more proof.

          Comment

          • bigeastbumrush
            My Momma's Son
            • Feb 2003
            • 19245

            #20
            Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

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            BigMike said:
            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
            bigeastbumrush said:
            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
            BigMike said:
            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
            bigeastbumrush said:
            I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

            Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

            Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

            Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

            Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

            Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

            Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            I don't buy that.

            The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            Why is it absurd? I'm black and if I had a black coach, I feel like I could identify with him more, and yeah, maybe get away with some things. It's not that hard to see. He also used race because it summed up all the other things like salary, money and power (or the image of those things)

            Black coaches who get respect are enforcers like Paul Silas, whose rep says they are like a father figure to younger players. Thats why most of his players respect him and wouldn't be spouting off the same bullsh*t Big Dog is. Thats not a shot to other black coaches, but its true and Ayers' firing is more proof.

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            A boss is a boss period. So you'd skip practices becauase your coach is black? If that's the case, then it should be quite obvious why the NBA has turned to ****s.

            I don't buy that "father figure" stuff. A coach gets respect because he's a proven winner, not some surrogate father.

            This doesn't add up. Players have slacked off for years, regardless who their coach is.

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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #21
              Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

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              BigMike said:
              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              bigeastbumrush said:
              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              BigMike said:
              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              bigeastbumrush said:
              I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

              Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

              Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

              Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

              Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

              Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

              Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              I don't buy that.

              The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Why is it absurd? I'm black and if I had a black coach, I feel like I could identify with him more, and yeah, maybe get away with some things. It's not that hard to see. He also used race because it summed up all the other things like salary, money and power (or the image of those things)

              Black coaches who get respect are enforcers like Paul Silas, whose rep says they are like a father figure to younger players. Thats why most of his players respect him and wouldn't be spouting off the same bullsh*t Big Dog is. Thats not a shot to other black coaches, but its true and Ayers' firing is more proof.

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              A boss is a boss period. So you'd skip practices becauase your coach is black? If that's the case, then it should be quite obvious why the NBA has turned to ****s.

              I don't buy that "father figure" stuff. A coach gets respect because he's a proven winner, not some surrogate father.

              This doesn't add up. Players have slacked off for years, regardless who their coach is.

              Comment

              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #22
                Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

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                BigMike said:
                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                bigeastbumrush said:
                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                BigMike said:
                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                bigeastbumrush said:
                I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

                Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

                Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

                Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

                Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

                Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

                Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                I don't buy that.

                The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Why is it absurd? I'm black and if I had a black coach, I feel like I could identify with him more, and yeah, maybe get away with some things. It's not that hard to see. He also used race because it summed up all the other things like salary, money and power (or the image of those things)

                Black coaches who get respect are enforcers like Paul Silas, whose rep says they are like a father figure to younger players. Thats why most of his players respect him and wouldn't be spouting off the same bullsh*t Big Dog is. Thats not a shot to other black coaches, but its true and Ayers' firing is more proof.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                A boss is a boss period. So you'd skip practices becauase your coach is black? If that's the case, then it should be quite obvious why the NBA has turned to ****s.

                I don't buy that "father figure" stuff. A coach gets respect because he's a proven winner, not some surrogate father.

                This doesn't add up. Players have slacked off for years, regardless who their coach is.

                Comment

                • muzion
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 718

                  #23
                  Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  BigMike said:
                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  bigeastbumrush said:
                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  BigMike said:
                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  bigeastbumrush said:
                  I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

                  Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

                  Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

                  Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

                  Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

                  Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

                  Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  I don't buy that.

                  The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  Why is it absurd? I'm black and if I had a black coach, I feel like I could identify with him more, and yeah, maybe get away with some things. It's not that hard to see. He also used race because it summed up all the other things like salary, money and power (or the image of those things)

                  Black coaches who get respect are enforcers like Paul Silas, whose rep says they are like a father figure to younger players. Thats why most of his players respect him and wouldn't be spouting off the same bullsh*t Big Dog is. Thats not a shot to other black coaches, but its true and Ayers' firing is more proof.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                  Big Mike is right on this one, being black I know that I respond differently to black authority than white authority. If the black woman or man is in a position of power and is not hard-nosed, better believe I'll try to get away with more things then if that person was white. It is a fact in all spectrums of life, including basketball coaches. I wonder if bigeastbumrush doesn't see the bigger picture as a result of his hatred for Stephen A. Smith or simply because he has a different opinion.

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                  • muzion
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 718

                    #24
                    Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    BigMike said:
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    bigeastbumrush said:
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    BigMike said:
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    bigeastbumrush said:
                    I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

                    Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

                    Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

                    Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

                    Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

                    Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

                    Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    I don't buy that.

                    The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Why is it absurd? I'm black and if I had a black coach, I feel like I could identify with him more, and yeah, maybe get away with some things. It's not that hard to see. He also used race because it summed up all the other things like salary, money and power (or the image of those things)

                    Black coaches who get respect are enforcers like Paul Silas, whose rep says they are like a father figure to younger players. Thats why most of his players respect him and wouldn't be spouting off the same bullsh*t Big Dog is. Thats not a shot to other black coaches, but its true and Ayers' firing is more proof.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                    Big Mike is right on this one, being black I know that I respond differently to black authority than white authority. If the black woman or man is in a position of power and is not hard-nosed, better believe I'll try to get away with more things then if that person was white. It is a fact in all spectrums of life, including basketball coaches. I wonder if bigeastbumrush doesn't see the bigger picture as a result of his hatred for Stephen A. Smith or simply because he has a different opinion.

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                    • muzion
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 718

                      #25
                      Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      BigMike said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      bigeastbumrush said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      BigMike said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      bigeastbumrush said:
                      I think Steven A. Smith is a complete *** and this is one of the reasons why I could never stand this guy. He gets WAY too much face time on ESPN for someone who never makes a point.

                      Yeah, Don Chaney (former coach of the Knicks) was underpaid.

                      Yeah, Sam Cassell, Ray Allen and Glenn Robinson did not tune out George Karl, the highest paid coach in the league.

                      Steven A. needs a reality check and stop spewing these homemade fallacies.

                      Some players are just knuckleheads, regardless of who their coach is. Jeff Van Gundy got his money because he's a workhorse. And his wannabe star player, "The Franchise", has tuned him out.

                      Aren't the Milwaukee Bucks responding to first time head coach Terry Porter?

                      Steven's argument holds absolutely no weight.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Those are only a few occasions, and apparently the exception

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      I don't buy that.

                      The salaries of the coaches is one thing, but saying that players respond/don't respond to a coach because of his race is absurd.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Why is it absurd? I'm black and if I had a black coach, I feel like I could identify with him more, and yeah, maybe get away with some things. It's not that hard to see. He also used race because it summed up all the other things like salary, money and power (or the image of those things)

                      Black coaches who get respect are enforcers like Paul Silas, whose rep says they are like a father figure to younger players. Thats why most of his players respect him and wouldn't be spouting off the same bullsh*t Big Dog is. Thats not a shot to other black coaches, but its true and Ayers' firing is more proof.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                      Big Mike is right on this one, being black I know that I respond differently to black authority than white authority. If the black woman or man is in a position of power and is not hard-nosed, better believe I'll try to get away with more things then if that person was white. It is a fact in all spectrums of life, including basketball coaches. I wonder if bigeastbumrush doesn't see the bigger picture as a result of his hatred for Stephen A. Smith or simply because he has a different opinion.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #26
                        Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

                        What was the case with Byron Scott?

                        Comment

                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #27
                          Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

                          What was the case with Byron Scott?

                          Comment

                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #28
                            Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

                            What was the case with Byron Scott?

                            Comment

                            • SoMiss2000
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 20499

                              #29
                              Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

                              I have to agree with Steven A. Smith on this one. Of course, there's always an exception to the rule.
                              "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
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                              • SoMiss2000
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 20499

                                #30
                                Re: Stephen A. Smith: Players fail to give best to black coaches

                                I have to agree with Steven A. Smith on this one. Of course, there's always an exception to the rule.
                                "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                                Check out www.sliderset.net



                                Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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