Has 'melo won your R.O.Y vote....

[Makaveli071]

Re: Has \'melo won your R.O.Y vote....

'Melo & Wade have both led there teams to more wins than last year...

'Melo led all rookies in scoring, for awhile earlier this season, and he is .3 away from leading again....

[metalslug]

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Makaveli071 said:
I dont disregard LeBrons talent, he is a good player, but i just believe 'Melo is better, i mean when you look at it you cant say LeBron is better, because what has LeBron done that Carmelo Anthony or Dwyane Wade havent done?

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led all rookies in scoring, led his dismal team to more wins that probably melo or dwayne would. Those are just a few things i could think of at the top of my head. Besides now you are bringing wade into this thing. I thought that this debate was now between melo and lebron, but i guess you must also realize that lebron is better. Oh yeah lebron is 1 year younger. 1 year of experience makes a lot of difference.

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people say that carmelo has help but lebron doesn't but if i remember they got rid of the weak links and gave lebron help also. because in the beginning of the season the cavs were still losing while the nuggets were winning, lebron didn't lead his team to wins until after they got rid of ricky davis and darius miles.

[metalslug]

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Makaveli071 said:
I dont disregard LeBrons talent, he is a good player, but i just believe 'Melo is better, i mean when you look at it you cant say LeBron is better, because what has LeBron done that Carmelo Anthony or Dwyane Wade havent done?

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led all rookies in scoring, led his dismal team to more wins that probably melo or dwayne would. Those are just a few things i could think of at the top of my head. Besides now you are bringing wade into this thing. I thought that this debate was now between melo and lebron, but i guess you must also realize that lebron is better. Oh yeah lebron is 1 year younger. 1 year of experience makes a lot of difference.

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people say that carmelo has help but lebron doesn't but if i remember they got rid of the weak links and gave lebron help also. because in the beginning of the season the cavs were still losing while the nuggets were winning, lebron didn't lead his team to wins until after they got rid of ricky davis and darius miles.

[metalslug]

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nkhera1 said:
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Makaveli071 said:
I dont disregard LeBrons talent, he is a good player, but i just believe 'Melo is better, i mean when you look at it you cant say LeBron is better, because what has LeBron done that Carmelo Anthony or Dwyane Wade havent done?

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led all rookies in scoring, led his dismal team to more wins that probably melo or dwayne would. Those are just a few things i could think of at the top of my head. Besides now you are bringing wade into this thing. I thought that this debate was now between melo and lebron, but i guess you must also realize that lebron is better. Oh yeah lebron is 1 year younger. 1 year of experience makes a lot of difference.

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people say that carmelo has help but lebron doesn't but if i remember they got rid of the weak links and gave lebron help also. because in the beginning of the season the cavs were still losing while the nuggets were winning, lebron didn't lead his team to wins until after they got rid of ricky davis and darius miles.

[OneBadMutha]

Re: Has \'melo won your R.O.Y vote....

Don't get overly caught up in stats. Those come and go for most players depending on who their surrounding talent is. I remember Jerry Stackhous almost averaging 30 points per game one year. Then there's Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, etc.

Most of the time with perimeter players who rely on a lot of touches and shots to be effective, their careers will be full of swings in terms of their stats. Carmello Anthony is in a fortunate position where he has a point guard who can create and get him easy shots, shooters who can space the floor around him, yet he still is allowed to be the #1 option.

Lebron not only has to carry much of the scoring load, he also has been the creater for that team. He sees the floor a lot better than Melo. Often he is the guy pushing the ball and giving it up on the fast break where as Melo just runs his lanes and waits for Miller to feed him for the easy dunk.

While neither is DPOTY yet, Lebron is definatly better on the other end of the court. Melo still hasn't figured out how to play man to man defense yet. He gets burned defensivly way too much.

Right now I just see Melo as a scorer. Yea you can point to his 3 assists except that he averages more turnovers than assists so you really can't define him as a playmaker. He gets his 6 boards a game which is pretty much a requirement of the position. The only aspect of the game that he's above average in right now is scoring. I'm still trying to figure out why the media is calling him a franchise player who'll eventually lead Denver to Championships because the real franchise players in the NBA can change the game in more than one area unless they are in a different dimension in terms of scoring.

The bottom line is that Melo may lead the NBA in scoring a year or two during his career however untill he shows the ability to make his teammates better, he's another Stackhouse, Carter, Pierce, etc. There's nothing wrong with that it's just that people are rushing to judgement trying to lump him in with Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc. Lebron shows all the abilities to where he may eventually become one of the 10 best players ever someday.

[OneBadMutha]

Re: Has \'melo won your R.O.Y vote....

Don't get overly caught up in stats. Those come and go for most players depending on who their surrounding talent is. I remember Jerry Stackhous almost averaging 30 points per game one year. Then there's Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, etc.

Most of the time with perimeter players who rely on a lot of touches and shots to be effective, their careers will be full of swings in terms of their stats. Carmello Anthony is in a fortunate position where he has a point guard who can create and get him easy shots, shooters who can space the floor around him, yet he still is allowed to be the #1 option.

Lebron not only has to carry much of the scoring load, he also has been the creater for that team. He sees the floor a lot better than Melo. Often he is the guy pushing the ball and giving it up on the fast break where as Melo just runs his lanes and waits for Miller to feed him for the easy dunk.

While neither is DPOTY yet, Lebron is definatly better on the other end of the court. Melo still hasn't figured out how to play man to man defense yet. He gets burned defensivly way too much.

Right now I just see Melo as a scorer. Yea you can point to his 3 assists except that he averages more turnovers than assists so you really can't define him as a playmaker. He gets his 6 boards a game which is pretty much a requirement of the position. The only aspect of the game that he's above average in right now is scoring. I'm still trying to figure out why the media is calling him a franchise player who'll eventually lead Denver to Championships because the real franchise players in the NBA can change the game in more than one area unless they are in a different dimension in terms of scoring.

The bottom line is that Melo may lead the NBA in scoring a year or two during his career however untill he shows the ability to make his teammates better, he's another Stackhouse, Carter, Pierce, etc. There's nothing wrong with that it's just that people are rushing to judgement trying to lump him in with Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc. Lebron shows all the abilities to where he may eventually become one of the 10 best players ever someday.

[OneBadMutha]

Re: Has \'melo won your R.O.Y vote....

Don't get overly caught up in stats. Those come and go for most players depending on who their surrounding talent is. I remember Jerry Stackhous almost averaging 30 points per game one year. Then there's Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, etc.

Most of the time with perimeter players who rely on a lot of touches and shots to be effective, their careers will be full of swings in terms of their stats. Carmello Anthony is in a fortunate position where he has a point guard who can create and get him easy shots, shooters who can space the floor around him, yet he still is allowed to be the #1 option.

Lebron not only has to carry much of the scoring load, he also has been the creater for that team. He sees the floor a lot better than Melo. Often he is the guy pushing the ball and giving it up on the fast break where as Melo just runs his lanes and waits for Miller to feed him for the easy dunk.

While neither is DPOTY yet, Lebron is definatly better on the other end of the court. Melo still hasn't figured out how to play man to man defense yet. He gets burned defensivly way too much.

Right now I just see Melo as a scorer. Yea you can point to his 3 assists except that he averages more turnovers than assists so you really can't define him as a playmaker. He gets his 6 boards a game which is pretty much a requirement of the position. The only aspect of the game that he's above average in right now is scoring. I'm still trying to figure out why the media is calling him a franchise player who'll eventually lead Denver to Championships because the real franchise players in the NBA can change the game in more than one area unless they are in a different dimension in terms of scoring.

The bottom line is that Melo may lead the NBA in scoring a year or two during his career however untill he shows the ability to make his teammates better, he's another Stackhouse, Carter, Pierce, etc. There's nothing wrong with that it's just that people are rushing to judgement trying to lump him in with Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc. Lebron shows all the abilities to where he may eventually become one of the 10 best players ever someday.

[nkhera1]

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OneBadMutha said:
Don't get overly caught up in stats. Those come and go for most players depending on who their surrounding talent is. I remember Jerry Stackhous almost averaging 30 points per game one year. Then there's Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, etc.

Most of the time with perimeter players who rely on a lot of touches and shots to be effective, their careers will be full of swings in terms of their stats. Carmello Anthony is in a fortunate position where he has a point guard who can create and get him easy shots, shooters who can space the floor around him, yet he still is allowed to be the #1 option.

Lebron not only has to carry much of the scoring load, he also has been the creater for that team. He sees the floor a lot better than Melo. Often he is the guy pushing the ball and giving it up on the fast break where as Melo just runs his lanes and waits for Miller to feed him for the easy dunk.

While neither is DPOTY yet, Lebron is definatly better on the other end of the court. Melo still hasn't figured out how to play man to man defense yet. He gets burned defensivly way too much.

Right now I just see Melo as a scorer. Yea you can point to his 3 assists except that he averages more turnovers than assists so you really can't define him as a playmaker. He gets his 6 boards a game which is pretty much a requirement of the position. The only aspect of the game that he's above average in right now is scoring. I'm still trying to figure out why the media is calling him a franchise player who'll eventually lead Denver to Championships because the real franchise players in the NBA can change the game in more than one area unless they are in a different dimension in terms of scoring.

The bottom line is that Melo may lead the NBA in scoring a year or two during his career however untill he shows the ability to make his teammates better, he's another Stackhouse, Carter, Pierce, etc. There's nothing wrong with that it's just that people are rushing to judgement trying to lump him in with Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc. Lebron shows all the abilities to where he may eventually become one of the 10 best players ever someday.

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yeah good statement i agree 100% with that. I mean there is no denying that melo won't be great, but will he be one of the top 5 or 10 in the history of the game is the question. Personally i think melo has to firm and tone a bit more to get a body like lebron.

The one problem i have heard though is this, that lebron has already reached his full body potentila, so he is not likely to get stronger, but if melo tones his body better, he could be a much better player.

[nkhera1]

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OneBadMutha said:
Don't get overly caught up in stats. Those come and go for most players depending on who their surrounding talent is. I remember Jerry Stackhous almost averaging 30 points per game one year. Then there's Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, etc.

Most of the time with perimeter players who rely on a lot of touches and shots to be effective, their careers will be full of swings in terms of their stats. Carmello Anthony is in a fortunate position where he has a point guard who can create and get him easy shots, shooters who can space the floor around him, yet he still is allowed to be the #1 option.

Lebron not only has to carry much of the scoring load, he also has been the creater for that team. He sees the floor a lot better than Melo. Often he is the guy pushing the ball and giving it up on the fast break where as Melo just runs his lanes and waits for Miller to feed him for the easy dunk.

While neither is DPOTY yet, Lebron is definatly better on the other end of the court. Melo still hasn't figured out how to play man to man defense yet. He gets burned defensivly way too much.

Right now I just see Melo as a scorer. Yea you can point to his 3 assists except that he averages more turnovers than assists so you really can't define him as a playmaker. He gets his 6 boards a game which is pretty much a requirement of the position. The only aspect of the game that he's above average in right now is scoring. I'm still trying to figure out why the media is calling him a franchise player who'll eventually lead Denver to Championships because the real franchise players in the NBA can change the game in more than one area unless they are in a different dimension in terms of scoring.

The bottom line is that Melo may lead the NBA in scoring a year or two during his career however untill he shows the ability to make his teammates better, he's another Stackhouse, Carter, Pierce, etc. There's nothing wrong with that it's just that people are rushing to judgement trying to lump him in with Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc. Lebron shows all the abilities to where he may eventually become one of the 10 best players ever someday.

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yeah good statement i agree 100% with that. I mean there is no denying that melo won't be great, but will he be one of the top 5 or 10 in the history of the game is the question. Personally i think melo has to firm and tone a bit more to get a body like lebron.

The one problem i have heard though is this, that lebron has already reached his full body potentila, so he is not likely to get stronger, but if melo tones his body better, he could be a much better player.

[nkhera1]

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OneBadMutha said:
Don't get overly caught up in stats. Those come and go for most players depending on who their surrounding talent is. I remember Jerry Stackhous almost averaging 30 points per game one year. Then there's Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, etc.

Most of the time with perimeter players who rely on a lot of touches and shots to be effective, their careers will be full of swings in terms of their stats. Carmello Anthony is in a fortunate position where he has a point guard who can create and get him easy shots, shooters who can space the floor around him, yet he still is allowed to be the #1 option.

Lebron not only has to carry much of the scoring load, he also has been the creater for that team. He sees the floor a lot better than Melo. Often he is the guy pushing the ball and giving it up on the fast break where as Melo just runs his lanes and waits for Miller to feed him for the easy dunk.

While neither is DPOTY yet, Lebron is definatly better on the other end of the court. Melo still hasn't figured out how to play man to man defense yet. He gets burned defensivly way too much.

Right now I just see Melo as a scorer. Yea you can point to his 3 assists except that he averages more turnovers than assists so you really can't define him as a playmaker. He gets his 6 boards a game which is pretty much a requirement of the position. The only aspect of the game that he's above average in right now is scoring. I'm still trying to figure out why the media is calling him a franchise player who'll eventually lead Denver to Championships because the real franchise players in the NBA can change the game in more than one area unless they are in a different dimension in terms of scoring.

The bottom line is that Melo may lead the NBA in scoring a year or two during his career however untill he shows the ability to make his teammates better, he's another Stackhouse, Carter, Pierce, etc. There's nothing wrong with that it's just that people are rushing to judgement trying to lump him in with Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc. Lebron shows all the abilities to where he may eventually become one of the 10 best players ever someday.

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yeah good statement i agree 100% with that. I mean there is no denying that melo won't be great, but will he be one of the top 5 or 10 in the history of the game is the question. Personally i think melo has to firm and tone a bit more to get a body like lebron.

The one problem i have heard though is this, that lebron has already reached his full body potentila, so he is not likely to get stronger, but if melo tones his body better, he could be a much better player.

[Bad_Intentions]

Re: Has \'melo won your R.O.Y vote....

Bron doesnt need to get too much stronger

[Bad_Intentions]

Re: Has \'melo won your R.O.Y vote....

Bron doesnt need to get too much stronger

[Bad_Intentions]

Re: Has \'melo won your R.O.Y vote....

Bron doesnt need to get too much stronger

[nkhera1]

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Bad_Intentions said:
Bron doesnt need to get too much stronger

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i know, i said he won't get much stronger

[nkhera1]

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Bad_Intentions said:
Bron doesnt need to get too much stronger

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i know, i said he won't get much stronger