4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

[Sportsbuck]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

PLAYOFFS

I don't really give a damn how weak the East is, WE'RE GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS! Some of y'all have been really spoiled getting to watch your team in it every year. This is only the second team ever that the this franchise has made it, and I'm so thrilled. Honestly contemplating coming back for Game 3 during exam week.

Also, this will mark just the second occasion of my adult life that I've been able to watch the Bobcats on national TV (The first being the 2010 playoffs).

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

The Cats just doubled their win total from last year, and are in the playoffs, and that doesn't merit any consideration at all?

There are better candidates to win it (Horn, Thibs) but Clifford definitely cemented himself in the conversation with how quickly this franchise has turned around in 1 year.

No, I don't. This discussion just highlights the previous discussions on the West v East.

The only reason you are considering him is because he is in the playoffs. If he played in the west, he wouldn't be considered for a damn thing. Yes, he would have had a nice surprise season with the win total but the Cats would be nowhere near a playoff birth. Nobody would be hailing him as Coach of the Year with 40 wins or so. Sure he deserves credit but not that much credit.

Thibbs and Hornacek are clearly ahead, at least IMO.

[z Revis]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

I'm sorry but we really need to stop this whole "if they were in the West or East" stuff. Fact is the Cats are in the Playoffs and are far better than anyone expected. Does Clifford deserve COY? Probably not because there are other more deserving candidates, but he is at least in the conversation. How they would perform in the West though is irrelevant.... they aren't in the West.

If you're going to use the East is weak argument then how come Thibs is considered a serious candidate?

[King_B_Mack]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

But once again, they are NOT in the West so that argument is moot. It's damn impressive that the Cats have lost 61, 59 and 48 games the last three seasons and have turned that thing around to being a .500 club and heading into the playoffs for the second time in franchise history. Obviously I think Thibs should be COY, but I'm biased lol. Having said that though, there's definitely merit to Clifford getting it as opposed to denying him based on some fantasy scenario that's not even in the realm of possibly happening.

[Muzyk23]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

No Wade, Oden and Birdman for Heat vs Knicks. Somebody, besides LeBron has to step up. Keep that no.1 seed.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

I don't really think that's all that bad of a starting lineup though...

Lol...then ill have to pm you and pick for cash next year...., your probably the only one that had them in 7th place fighting for 6th.....

I was just kidding about COY, but Clifford definitely deserves praise...

Until they come out with a section in the standings that considers 'would be record' if they played in the opposite conference.....im going off the schedule and conference teams are assigned to.....

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk

[z Revis]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

Man I probably shouldn't dog on other fanbases considering the Pacers fanbase was laughable until the last year or so, but Miami fans are ridiculous. Arena is half empty right now... come on guys...

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

I'm sorry but we really need to stop this whole "if they were in the West or East" stuff. Fact is the Cats are in the Playoffs and are far better than anyone expected. Does Clifford deserve COY? Probably not because there are other more deserving candidates, but he is at least in the conversation. How they would perform in the West though is irrelevant.... they aren't in the West.

If you're going to use the East is weak argument then how come Thibs is considered a serious candidate?

The Bulls have 45 wins. Without Rose or Deng, did you not read that when I posted it?

Again, you're missing my point. The win total is skewed because of the conference. 40 wins holds much more weight in the east than the west.

As much as you guys don't want to have that discussion, it's the truth. 40 wins in the west means much less. There's no debating that.

He deserves credit but there's much more deserving coaches.

[z Revis]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

I understand your point ex, but it doesn't make sense to me to use that argument against the Cats, but then say Thibs should win it when they play in the same conference. Why is that argument not applied to him but it is to Clifford is all I'm saying.

I'm not saying Thibs shouldn't win it or be considered either because I agree he is a serious candidate and what they've done this year is impressive as hell.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

I understand your point ex, but it doesn't make sense to me to use that argument against the Cats, but then say Thibs should win it when they play in the same conference. Why is that argument not applied to him but it is to Clifford is all I'm saying.

I'm not saying Thibs shouldn't win it or be considered either because I agree he is a serious candidate and what they've done this year is impressive as hell.

45 wins is impressive because he's missing two out of his three best players. In any conference, that is impressive. In the West, he would still be competing for a playoff spot. I give Thibbs credit, so much credit, regardless of the conference. The team looks awesome. He may get more than 45 wins.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

Yet Joakim Noah, a player Thibbs still has, is better than any Bobcats player....

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

Yet Joakim Noah, a player Thibbs still has, is better than any Bobcats player....

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk

OK? What's your point. Al Jefferson I guess is much worse than Noah? Don't give me that B.S.

Turning a team with Noah, Boozer and Butler as your best players into a legit threat to the Heat/Pacers is pretty damn impressive. Taking that team to nearly 50 wins is pretty damn impressive.

Clifford, taking that team to around 40 or so wins is also impressive. Just not anywhere near as impressive as what Thibbs is doing or Hornacek.

[SteelersFreak]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

OK? What's your point. Al Jefferson I guess is much worse than Noah? Don't give me that B.S.

Turning a team with Noah, Boozer and Butler as your best players into a legit threat to the Heat/Pacers is pretty damn impressive. Taking that team to nearly 50 wins is pretty damn impressive.

Clifford, taking that team to around 40 or so wins is also impressive. Just not anywhere near as impressive as what Thibbs is doing or Hornacek.

How is it not anywhere near as impressive? The Bobcats only have six less wins than the Bulls do. The Bobcats started the year without Jefferson and they've dealt with some injuries of their own. I think it's silly to act like Thibs and Hornacek are on some kind of next level from Clifford because what they've done is SO MUCH more impressive than him.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

How is it not anywhere near as impressive? The Bobcats only have six less wins than the Bulls do. The Bobcats started the year without Jefferson and they've dealt with some injuries of their own. I think it's silly to act like Thibs and Hornacek are on some kind of next level from Clifford because what they've done is SO MUCH more impressive than him.

Closer to 50 wins than 40? How the Bulls look like a legit threat? I just mentioned all of those things in my post I guess you just ignored them or don't agree?

[z Revis]

Re: 4/1 - 4/6 Games Discussion Thread

OK? What's your point. Al Jefferson I guess is much worse than Noah? Don't give me that B.S.

Turning a team with Noah, Boozer and Butler as your best players into a legit threat to the Heat/Pacers is pretty damn impressive. Taking that team to nearly 50 wins is pretty damn impressive.

Clifford, taking that team to around 40 or so wins is also impressive. Just not anywhere near as impressive as what Thibbs is doing or Hornacek.

Charlotte lost 61 games last year. They have improved this year by a 20+ game difference. Saying that is not "anywhere near" as impressive as what any other coach has done is a big stretch to me.

Have you seen Charlottes starting lineup? It isn't exactly world beating either.