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  • cavsfan2
    MVP
    • Aug 2010
    • 3902

    #3496
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    Folks can say what they want about spos minute management but the heat haven't had much depth since day 1... Cleveland and the suns would offer that


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    On top of that Wiggins projects as a shutdown defender so he can lift the responsibility of a defending the other teams best player from Lebron.

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    • RocketTMac1
      MVP
      • Sep 2006
      • 1864

      #3497
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      Originally posted by cavsfan2
      On top of that Wiggins projects as a shutdown defender so he can lift the responsibility of a defending the other teams best player from Lebron.
      Gets LeBron out of the Southeast lol

      But seriously if LeBron were to go back to Cleveland it would be a fun thing to watch IMO. I wouldn't cheer for the Cavs but the opportunities that he would give to guys like Waiters and Wiggins would be exciting.
      The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.

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      • JODYE
        JB4MVP
        • May 2012
        • 4834

        #3498
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        Folks can say what they want about spos minute management but the heat haven't had much depth since day 1... Cleveland and the suns would offer that


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        This is just simply not true in regards to managing the regular season.

        Not having depth and choosing not to use it are two different things.
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        • iLLosophy
          Plata o Plomo
          • Sep 2005
          • 3673

          #3499
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by RocketTMac1
          Gets LeBron out of the Southeast lol

          But seriously if LeBron were to go back to Cleveland it would be a fun thing to watch IMO. I wouldn't cheer for the Cavs but the opportunities that he would give to guys like Waiters and Wiggins would be exciting.
          You don't think having Lebron would hurt their development? Waiters is already a guy who's used to being #1 who had to take a backseat. Wiggins drive and ability to be "the man" has always been in question. I don't know if providing a Chaperone for these guys is in their best interest for them to reach their potential.

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          • RocketTMac1
            MVP
            • Sep 2006
            • 1864

            #3500
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Originally posted by iLLosophy
            You don't think having Lebron would hurt their development? Waiters is already a guy who's used to being #1 who had to take a backseat. Wiggins drive and ability to be "the man" has always been in question. I don't know if providing a Chaperone for these guys is in their best interest for them to reach their potential.
            Bron wants a guy to take his minutes............enter Wiggins

            Bron doesn't like to score unless he has to.........enter Irving and Waiters

            Waiters IMO is a sixth man on a championship team. He has one thing on his mind and that is to score. He can be a starter somewhere else but he isn't getting a chip.

            I don't think LeBron is that selfish enough to stifle Wiggins growth. If anything I think it would help the guy to learn from LeBron. He doesn't face double teams every night, he has a guy to lob it to him on the fast break and he will have to be forced to develop his jumpshot.

            All of that equals win for all involved if they are about team. And Wiggins doesn't get hampered he develops faster IMO. What would he have been if he were drafted by the Lakers?
            The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.

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            • Vni
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2011
              • 14833

              #3501
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              Really not buying the Lebron back to Cleveland story. Not buying it at all.

              Wiggins is still a kid, Bennett is a bust and Kyrie hasn't improved his game the last 2 years. Don't even think Lebron is seriously considering going back.

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              • ThreeKing
                Banned
                • Aug 2007
                • 5852

                #3502
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Even though there's still a good chance LeBron will stay in Miami, I love how Heat "fans" and the media are sweating like a bunch of savages right now.

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                • d11king
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2716

                  #3503
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by RocketTMac1
                  All of that equals win for all involved if they are about team. And Wiggins doesn't get hampered he develops faster IMO. What would he have been if he were drafted by the Lakers?
                  He would've been in a similar situation. Wiggins would've started in LA from Day 1, and would have a 5x NBA champion who would/could/should possibly mentor him, who'd also teach him a thing or three about work ethic. How is it that you develop in the NBA faster?

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                  • lilteapot
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 4550

                    #3504
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    Originally posted by ThreeKing
                    Even though there's still a good chance LeBron will stay in Miami, I love how Heat "fans" and the media are sweating like a bunch of savages right now.
                    A lot like how you were burning with rage and frothing at the mouth at the prospect of Carmelo not going to Chicago, huh

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                    • RocketTMac1
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 1864

                      #3505
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Originally posted by d11king
                      He would've been in a similar situation. Wiggins would've started in LA from Day 1, and would have a 5x NBA champion who would/could/should possibly mentor him, who'd also teach him a thing or three about work ethic. How is it that you develop in the NBA faster?
                      I'm a Kobe guy but to say LeBron doesn't have work ethic is a reach (if that is what you are saying my friend). Kobe has the killer instinct but LeBron has a very good work ethic.

                      And why wouldn't Cleveland (IF LeBron goes back) start Wiggins at the two? And to answer you question Kobe doesn't scream I'll pass you the ball young fella. He has something to prove this season so if Wiggins were to have been drafted by LA Kobe wouldn't be so willing to say here kid take my shine. The only people I see Kobe doing that with would be a guy Kobe has played with on Team USA.
                      The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.

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                      • d11king
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2716

                        #3506
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        Originally posted by RocketTMac1
                        I'm a Kobe guy but to say LeBron doesn't have work ethic is a reach (if that is what you are saying my friend). Kobe has the killer instinct but LeBron has a very good work ethic.

                        And why wouldn't Cleveland (IF LeBron goes back) start Wiggins at the two? And to answer you question Kobe doesn't scream I'll pass you the ball young fella. He has something to prove this season so if Wiggins were to have been drafted by LA Kobe wouldn't be so willing to say here kid take my shine. The only people I see Kobe doing that with would be a guy Kobe has played with on Team USA.
                        Oh no, I'm not saying LeBron has a terrible work ethic, I was just simply pointing at, being in the gym everyday watching Kobe (and even in your case) LeBron would be beneficial. That's why I said similar situations.

                        You do have a point about Kobe, "hear take my shine", but who knows what would've happened had he been drafted to LA. It's all speculation, so we could say this would've happened or that would've happened, but I don't think because he's on the same team with Kobe that his development would've been shunned and he would've ended being the next Wesley Johnson.

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                        • cavsfan2
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3902

                          #3507
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Chris Sheridan just tweeted this: "Source: LeBron James' inner circle - from wife to agent to best friends - unanimous that he should return to #Cavs: sheridanhoops.com/2014/07/07/she…"

                          Sorry if he isn't a legit source, just thought I would post

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #3508
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            Originally posted by 13
                            This is just simply not true in regards to managing the regular season.

                            Not having depth and choosing not to use it are two different things.
                            I would have loved for Spo to use Beasley but at the same time he's been irrelevant for a reason. Outside of Beas I don't know who else they really had

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                            • RedSceptile
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 3680

                              #3509
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              I really hope this is all a smokescreen and LeBron stays in Miami or hell goes to Phoenix or something. Tired of these bull crap stories that people are trying to spin.

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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #3510
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                Man why would you leave that beach front mansion in Miami to go back to Cleveland?
                                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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