2014 Off-Season Thread

[iLLosophy]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

It's not ridiculous to say they can get the 1-seed in year one. Who knows if Rose will finally be healthy and Indiana seemed to blow up late last season and is losing Lance on top of everything. Beyond that who are we talking? Toronto and Washington? Brooklyn? Charlotte?

It's not ridiculous but it should no way be a consensus.

Plus I'm not one to believe the hype on Lance Stephenson. He's a nick young with better defense and a worse jump shot. Him leaving is a speedbump for the pacers. He knew he was playing a contract year and he'll have a nice time being an overpaid 6th man somewhere.


The pacers actually are getting better year over year, not worse. They have problems with consistency and motivation, but that's an issue that's existed well before this year - it still didn't stop them from getting the best record in the east.

[BlueNGold]

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I bet Mo Williams has his agent calling Cleveland like "So, I see you guys could use a backup guard after trading Jarrett Jack."

[ojandpizza]

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If I'm Cleveland, I'm saying screw it and trading Wiggins to Minny straight up for Love. The goal is to win championships now, and who knows how long LeBron will be at this level? You have to surround him with the best talent available, and Love is one of the best players in the league.

This works out really well for Wiggins, too. A LOT less pressure in Minnesota with Rubio than in Cleveland with LeBron.

I think the defense Wiggins brings on the perimeter will be much more valuable than the amount of extra threes they would get from Love honestly.. If they were hurting for rebounds I would be all with you. But they already have two good rebounders inside, added LeBron, and Wiggins will likely be one of those 5+ rebounding 2guards.. It's a tough call but I would keep Wiggins.


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[The 24th Letter]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

man...

Beverly Harden Parson Bosh Howard

scares me to death as a Spurs fan. HORRIBLE match up.

[cavsfan2]

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Thank God the offers for him won't stop in the off-season huh? If they trade him now they lose the ability to get even more back for him during the season. I'm sure if the writing is on the wall by the trade deadline the Cavs offer will still be on the table.

I honestly don't think the offers will increase during the season. While some teams might get nervous other teams outbidding them, they will still be aware that Minny HAS to trade love and therefore they have little power in the negotiations

[RocketTMac1]

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man...

Beverly Harden Parson Bosh Howard

scares me to death as a Spurs fan. HORRIBLE match up.

Don't know why. Two guys on the court will be playing defense and what bench do they have?

[z Revis]

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but, now that love WILL sign in cleveland, the warriors might go throw klay in to the trade to get love. and klay barnes lee is far better than waiters bennet late 1st

Didn't the Warriors already try dealing Klay to Minny if Minny gave up their 13th pick? I swear that's the last report I heard about those discussions. Maybe I'm wrong.

[iLLosophy]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Don't know why. Two guys on the court will be playing defense and what bench do they have?

Harden should go back to being sixth man. If manu can do it, no reason he can't.

[ojandpizza]

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Because I'm not trading my best player for Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett and a draft pick when you have Wiggins sitting there.

I get what you're saying, but Love doesn't even make them an 8 seed.. They aren't really in any position to have to keep him around. The potential from Waiters and Bennett should and could be very enticing.

Nobody really knows what those guys can become in primary roles.. Hell they were both higher draft picks than Love.


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[cavsfan2]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

I think the defense Wiggins brings on the perimeter will be much more valuable than the amount of extra threes they would get from Love honestly.. If they were hurting for rebounds I would be all with you. But they already have two good rebounders inside, added LeBron, and Wiggins will likely be one of those 5+ rebounding 2guards.. It's a tough call but I would keep Wiggins.


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Thank you!!! Having a player that can take the other teams best player on defense will keep Lebron much fresher for the postseason.

[RocketTMac1]

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I honestly don't think the offers will increase during the season. While some teams might get nervous other teams outbidding them, they will still be aware that Minny HAS to trade love and therefore they have little power in the negotiations

Exactly I'm not buying this ESPN bull crap that Minnesota is in the power position. If anyone has the power it's Cleveland and Love. Minny better jump at those picks and Waiters and Bennett. Because Love will leave regardless and they will be left with nothing.

Again if I'm LeBron I tell the GM Wiggins, Kryie and Tristan are untouchable

[Sportsbuck]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

FWIW, the people close to the Cavs are saying Wiggins is untouchable, along with Kyrie and obviously LBJ. Anyone else and any other assets are fair game though.

[iLLosophy]

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I get what you're saying, but Love doesn't even make them an 8 seed.. They aren't really in any position to have to keep him around. The potential from Waiters and Bennett should and could be very enticing.

Nobody really knows what those guys can become in primary roles.. Hell they were both higher draft picks than Love.


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Minnesota went down the tweener route with Derrick Williams, I'm sure they aren't too keen on taking on a fatter version of him right now.

[JazzMan]

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Is it really pressure on Wiggins? I think at the beginning its on Kyrie and LeBron.

Think if he's struggling with his shot early on and is shooting 35% from the field. Everyone would be hounding him as the weak link and saying he can't hang with the big boys yet. Meanwhile if he puts up 16 points in Minnesota while shooting less than 40%, people will think he's just working out the kinks.

[turty11]

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Exactly I'm not buying this ESPN bull crap that Minnesota is in the power position. If anyone has the power it's Cleveland and Love. Minny better jump at those picks and Waiters and Bennett. Because Love will leave regardless and they will be left with nothing.

Again if I'm LeBron I tell the GM Wiggins, Kryie and Tristan are untouchable

why would he want tristan to be untouchable?