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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #61
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Q: Was he having issues with staffers and did that cause you to question his tenure?

    LACOB: Look, I don't think we should get into the great details of what did happen, other than to say that this is a decision that was based on what was good for the organization as a whole.

    And when I say the organization as a whole I don't mean just the team and just the 15 players that are involved and the coaching staff. I mean everybody. There's 200 employees here.

    So when we look at the organization going forward and the kind of coach we want and … not just the performance but everything else, all these factors matter. We took all that account.

    ...

    Q: Was 51-31 unsatisfactory?

    LACOB: I would not say it's unsatisfactory. I would say that it did not meet our–probably–our goals.

    Q: Was that due to coaching?

    LACOB: No, I don't know that I can honestly say that it was from coaching, or it was from injuries … There's a lot of factors that go into this.

    It's hard to say. I know there are some people that think we should've been, oh, five or six or seven games better because we lost some easy games at home. I did comment to you in fact in February that the home losses were disturbing.

    But I didn't blame anybody at the time and I still don't blame necessarily coaches or players or Bob Myers for not getting another addition at the trade deadline. It isn't anybody's fault necessarily.

    It's just, that's what it is. Could we maybe have been a little better? Yeah.

    ...

    Q: Do you think Jackson had a bunker mentality and was that tough to deal with?

    LACOB: I think Mark in his next job probably needs to do a better job managing up and sideways, is one way to put it. Managing down, managing to his players, obviously a pretty good job. Most of his players seemed to really like playing for him. They played hard for him. Which is really important in the NBA.

    I think if you asked him, I think he would realize–maybe give him some time to answer this–that he probably could do a little better job of managing up and sideways, is the way to put it.

    But look, I'm not here to bash or be critical of him.

    We could do some things better, too, right?

    via Joe Lacob on the Mark Jackson firing, Steph Curry's emotions, ownership pressure and demands, and more – Talking Points.


    There's a lot there in between the margins. Essenially Lacob is asserting the problems were beyond Jackson's issues with ownership, and extend to his conduct with employees of the team beyond the players. Jackson is a former player who was put immediately into the role of coach. He did develop a bunker mentality, a close relationship with the team. But a coach has a wider range of responsibilities and interactions with team staff that extend beyond the locker room.

    It's not hard to imagine Jackson's player mentality, which often times (but definitely not always) can seem very tunnel-vision-laden in other people, rubbing personnel the wrong way. There have been no reports of altercations between Jackson and other members of staff beyond friction between Jackson and front-office advisor Jerry West, but it's clear that someone, somewhere was uncomfortable.

    ESPN reports the hiring of Lindsey Hunter may have contributed to the situation:

    The September introduction of Hunter, a friend of Jackson's, was regarded as a destabilizing force, according to multiple sources. This marks the third consecutive time his hiring has coincided with a head coach getting fired within a year. Hunter had a reputation as an undermining individual from his days in Chicago and Phoenix. While he did not sabotage Jackson specifically, he made life difficult for others on staff.

    It's quite possible Jackson couldn't have survived even with a cohesive coaching staff.

    It all started off on the wrong foot, with Jackson deciding to coach the Warriors while living in Los Angeles and presiding over his church as pastor. Management found this arrangement less than ideal, but Jackson flat out refused to reconsider.

    via Mark Jackson's way and the highway - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN.

    The whole thing paints a picture of someone who's hard to get along with ... unless you're a player. Which you can argue that's all that matters. Front office, office personnel, other assistants, whoever. Jackson had the trust of his players, the love of his players, and won 50 games. Whoever they hire will have to battle a lot of resentment from the players, and from the media who adore Jackson -- and the team will have to win.

    In business, how you treat people matters. That was Lacob's essential position. But in the NBA, all that usually matters is how you treat the players and how you win. That's why this move is such a departure from the norm.

    .............
    Last edited by 23; 05-07-2014, 04:09 PM.

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #62
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      Originally posted by 23
      This dude is fishing for a job

      I believe it this was him in Jacksons position he would've went on a rant publicly about the owner... Probably why teams could be hesitant with him.


      @SpearsNBAYahoo
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      The Warriors have contacted former NBA head coach Stan Van Gundy about their head coach opening, a source told Yahoo. No interview set yet.


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      Former NBA coach Stan Van Gundy has interest in the job, a source said. Van Gundy has not had interest in openings with Lakers and Wolves.
      I knew it.....

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #63
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        "The Golden State Warriors are planning to contact Chicago Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau and former Los Angeles Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni for their vacancy, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

        ...

        D'Antoni, who resigned as Lakers coach after the regular season after the team refused to extend his contract, is on a list of names that also includes former NBA coaches Lionel Hollins, George Karl and Jerry Sloan, and current college coaches Fred Hoiberg and Kevin Ollie.

        ...

        The Warriors are also reportedly waiting for NBA assistants David Fizdale, Alvin Gentry and Nate McMillan to complete playoff runs."

        Are those names good enough

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #64
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          I look at the Warriors trying to get Thibs, the same way I looked at the Nets trying to get Phil to coach them. Stop wasting their time and your time is what I thought/think of them going after Thibs.

          Don't think Ollie/Hoiberg is going anywhere, at least this year, Hollins was linked to Detroit when they let Cheeks go so I think he'll end up there. Sloan would be an.....interesting hire that's for sure. Karl sounds like he's pining for that Lakers' job.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #65
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            That leaves Stan Van as their most intersting name

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            • King_B_Mack
              All Star
              • Jan 2009
              • 24450

              #66
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              The **** these people keep trying to talk to Thibs for? He isn't going anywhere and if he does I would be shocked.


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              • DJ_Solis
                MVP
                • Jan 2014
                • 2216

                #67
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Looks like the Warriors went into this with no real plan. Like they're just contacting as many names as possible. Really don't want to see them bring in a rookie head coach and I doubt that Sloan will be coming back. Svg seems like the best option right now.


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                • ex carrabba fan
                  I'll thank him for you
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #68
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by DJ_Solis
                  Looks like the Warriors went into this with no real plan. Like they're just contacting as many names as possible. Really don't want to see them bring in a rookie head coach and I doubt that Sloan will be coming back. Svg seems like the best option right now.


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                  Did you think they had a coach already in the fold? It was obvious from the start they wanted a divorce from Jackson. They weren't just going to bring a new coach the same day or anything

                  Like any other team who gets rid of their coach, they have a list of guys and are reaching out seeing who might be interested. The Warriors have an exceptional roster and have exceptional fan support, they will have no problem getting a new coach. It will be a desired job and they're also getting a new arena

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #69
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    Yeah, I think this was apart of the plan. Im sure the owner had a moment of revelation that he didnt want Jackson some time ago and decided what he wanted to do.

                    You don't just limit your options to one guy if you don't have to.

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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #70
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Originally posted by 23
                      That leaves Stan Van as their most intersting name
                      It's funny since he had his issues with Ownership/Management as well, when he was in Orlando(among other things). Wasn't that much than Jackson really except he didn't completely shut himself off from everyone else.
                      #RespectTheCulture

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                      • DJ_Solis
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 2216

                        #71
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        Did you think they had a coach already in the fold? It was obvious from the start they wanted a divorce from Jackson. They weren't just going to bring a new coach the same day or anything



                        Like any other team who gets rid of their coach, they have a list of guys and are reaching out seeing who might be interested. The Warriors have an exceptional roster and have exceptional fan support, they will have no problem getting a new coach. It will be a desired job and they're also getting a new arena

                        I thought they would at least have a sense of direction they wanted to go in. You look at all the coaches listed and see big differences between all of them. When they fired Mark they said they wanted to go in a different direction so I assumed they would've had some sort of idea of what type of coach they wanted. I know they're not gonna bring in a coach the same day and every team has a list of options, but the options just seem so different here.
                        I never said they would have trouble finding a coach and not really sure why you told me a bunch of stuff about the team that I already knew.


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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #72
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by DJ_Solis
                          I thought they would at least have a sense of direction they wanted to go in. You look at all the coaches listed and see big differences between all of them. When they fired Mark they said they wanted to go in a different direction so I assumed they would've had some sort of idea of what type of coach they wanted. I know they're not gonna bring in a coach the same day and every team has a list of options, but the options just seem so different here.
                          I never said they would have trouble finding a coach and not really sure why you told me a bunch of stuff about the team that I already knew.


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                          Just thought it was a bit weird you would say "it doesn't seem like they have a plan". What do you expect then? You really think they went into this with 'no real plan'. That sounds incredibly silly.

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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24450

                            #73
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            Contacting Thibs is silly. It's not happening. And if butting heads is a problem with Jackson, then I don't know what paradise they think they're getting with Thibs.


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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #74
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                              It's funny since he had his issues with Ownership/Management as well, when he was in Orlando(among other things). Wasn't that much than Jackson really except he didn't completely shut himself off from everyone else.

                              Even worse because he'll air out the issues to the public. Might be why Noone has wanted him thus far

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                              • DJ_Solis
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 2216

                                #75
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                                Just thought it was a bit weird you would say "it doesn't seem like they have a plan". What do you expect then? You really think they went into this with 'no real plan'. That sounds incredibly silly.

                                Maybe I worded it badly. I didn't mean they just fired him and had no idea what to do after. It just seems like they're not sure which direction that they want to take. I didn't expect them to name a new coach right away but I thought they'd at least have a general direction or a smaller list of candidates.
                                I guess it's still early on and they're just looking at all possible options. Any thoughts on who they will choose?


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