Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

**Shaver** · 05-19-2004, 09:41 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

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Clay_OS said:
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mvb34 said:
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timid said:
this is a non-issue.....damn people are so sensitive, lol

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I would guess that you have no children. Correct???

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Who is responsible to train/rasing a child? The media, the athletes or parents/guardian?

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Another childless one I would assume....

Yes, parents raise children....

Yes, athletes should not be left as #1 rolemodels...

However, the NBA has chosen to market KG in that way. He is a good person. The MVP Trophy is in good hands with KG. Squeeky, squeeky....

Then parents try to instill in their children the facts about life and war and things of that sort. It becomes all too real with the reality of the news today. You teach your child the seriousness of things like that, then yet another idiot comes on the TV spewing mindless rhetoric about guns and violence.

P.S. No one ever said it was KG's responsibility to raise someone's child. It is however his and the NBA's responsibility to not sell the public one bill of goods and then pull the rug out just because he had his manhood put in question on the court.

Finally, you are in no place to have this conversation until you have children. Period.

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I have a 12 year old son!!

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Then parents try to instill in their children the facts about life and war and things of that sort. It becomes all too real with the reality of the news today. You teach your child the seriousness of things like that, then yet another idiot comes on the TV spewing mindless rhetoric about guns and violence.

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And each time that happen you as parent reinforce the message on reality !!

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Ahhhh... but what message does that send? Every other outlet in the world except Daddy is saying guns, guns, war, guns, kill, guns, guns.... Daddy is in the minority.

Either way, my bottomline for the first post is don't sell the NBA as "FAN-tastic" as in For The Fan.... because the FAN... the 25-54 Male Demo that is so attractive has kids. Kids that like to watch the game with Dad.

And, the NBA and his sponsor try to sell the same demographic that KG is a good man. The MVP. Then this....

I respect the guy for coming out and apologizing for his comments.

My retort to your original comment though is....do you have to shield your child 100% of the time from media, sports, and entertainment to be a good parent??? Absolutely not. Those outlets don't raise (or train as you put it) my child, but they shape them.

**fsquid** · 05-19-2004, 09:46 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

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Programmed2Kill said:
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Guys, you have to look at the source. KG might have a high school education at best, is far removed from the real world as one can be, and probably couldn't find Iraq on a map. Thus, to expect anything to come out of his mouth that might resemble common sense is beyond his realm.

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This is one of the most repulsive things I've read in the OS forums.

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I beat our EROD??

**fsquid** · 05-19-2004, 09:46 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

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Programmed2Kill said:
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fsquid said:
Guys, you have to look at the source. KG might have a high school education at best, is far removed from the real world as one can be, and probably couldn't find Iraq on a map. Thus, to expect anything to come out of his mouth that might resemble common sense is beyond his realm.

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This is one of the most repulsive things I've read in the OS forums.

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I beat our EROD??

**fsquid** · 05-19-2004, 09:46 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

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Programmed2Kill said:
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fsquid said:
Guys, you have to look at the source. KG might have a high school education at best, is far removed from the real world as one can be, and probably couldn't find Iraq on a map. Thus, to expect anything to come out of his mouth that might resemble common sense is beyond his realm.

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This is one of the most repulsive things I've read in the OS forums.

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I beat our EROD??

**fsquid** · 05-19-2004, 09:47 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

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jordan0386 said:
over 200 million made with that high school diploma

yo go boy!

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sadly that money can't buy the guy some common sense. Did he just not see the reporters and cameras?

**fsquid** · 05-19-2004, 09:47 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

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jordan0386 said:
over 200 million made with that high school diploma

yo go boy!

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sadly that money can't buy the guy some common sense. Did he just not see the reporters and cameras?

**fsquid** · 05-19-2004, 09:47 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

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jordan0386 said:
over 200 million made with that high school diploma

yo go boy!

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sadly that money can't buy the guy some common sense. Did he just not see the reporters and cameras?

**krobarts** · 05-19-2004, 10:00 AM

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You're right it sounds like he wants to go to Iraq. Sheesh you got ppl dying and you're comparing a make or break game to warfare.

I wonder if he's gonna throw out some Prisoner Abuse on Peja and the other Kings.

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dude, dont even go there man, ahve you ever been invovled in a critical basketball game, it is physical and mental war, he obviously was nto comparing it to peopel getting shot or dying, btu it is WAR, when you and the other team goes against each other.. dont be a fool.

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How is any part of a game war? It's simply competition, the two things are apples and oranges. You might could have a writer use a metaphor (a comparison of two unsimilar things), but beyond that, players, coaches, fans, etc. are disrespectful and naive if they think war can be compared to competition.

**krobarts** · 05-19-2004, 10:00 AM

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GoldenstWarrior said:
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SportsmanTO said:

You're right it sounds like he wants to go to Iraq. Sheesh you got ppl dying and you're comparing a make or break game to warfare.

I wonder if he's gonna throw out some Prisoner Abuse on Peja and the other Kings.

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dude, dont even go there man, ahve you ever been invovled in a critical basketball game, it is physical and mental war, he obviously was nto comparing it to peopel getting shot or dying, btu it is WAR, when you and the other team goes against each other.. dont be a fool.

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How is any part of a game war? It's simply competition, the two things are apples and oranges. You might could have a writer use a metaphor (a comparison of two unsimilar things), but beyond that, players, coaches, fans, etc. are disrespectful and naive if they think war can be compared to competition.

**krobarts** · 05-19-2004, 10:00 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

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GoldenstWarrior said:
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SportsmanTO said:

You're right it sounds like he wants to go to Iraq. Sheesh you got ppl dying and you're comparing a make or break game to warfare.

I wonder if he's gonna throw out some Prisoner Abuse on Peja and the other Kings.

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dude, dont even go there man, ahve you ever been invovled in a critical basketball game, it is physical and mental war, he obviously was nto comparing it to peopel getting shot or dying, btu it is WAR, when you and the other team goes against each other.. dont be a fool.

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How is any part of a game war? It's simply competition, the two things are apples and oranges. You might could have a writer use a metaphor (a comparison of two unsimilar things), but beyond that, players, coaches, fans, etc. are disrespectful and naive if they think war can be compared to competition.

**Air23** · 05-19-2004, 10:18 AM

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Then I guess all of the great coaches in sports were disrespectful when they compared sports to war and battles, right?

**Air23** · 05-19-2004, 10:18 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

Then I guess all of the great coaches in sports were disrespectful when they compared sports to war and battles, right?

**Air23** · 05-19-2004, 10:18 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

Then I guess all of the great coaches in sports were disrespectful when they compared sports to war and battles, right?

**krobarts** · 05-19-2004, 10:26 AM

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I see where you are coming from, and maybe disrespectful across the board is a little harsh. However, coaches and players really need to be careful about how they use the term.

For instance, yesterday Wally justified KG's comments by agreeing that it was in fact war, and refused to separate the issues. They are obviously not the same, it is an extremely rare occasion for a player or coach to die in the midst of a game, but lives are lost everyday during the course of war and they die for a cause.

The problem isn't the comparison, but the players and coaches who make the comments refusal to realize that it is just a game.

**krobarts** · 05-19-2004, 10:26 AM

Re: Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

I see where you are coming from, and maybe disrespectful across the board is a little harsh. However, coaches and players really need to be careful about how they use the term.

For instance, yesterday Wally justified KG's comments by agreeing that it was in fact war, and refused to separate the issues. They are obviously not the same, it is an extremely rare occasion for a player or coach to die in the midst of a game, but lives are lost everyday during the course of war and they die for a cause.

The problem isn't the comparison, but the players and coaches who make the comments refusal to realize that it is just a game.

Looks like KG wants to go to Iraq

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