Michael Jordan - The Legend

**LedouxRoc** · 06-10-2004, 10:39 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

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those are some decent comparisions.. but marion and pippen ... ehehehehe

<hr /></blockquote> Why?? Because Pip won 6 rings. Don't get me wrong, he was a great player...but if he didn't play on the Chicago Bulls he wouldn't even sniff a dream team. T-Mac is arguably better than Kobe(not saying he is, I think Kobe's better) whose being compared to Jordan. If anything, I would put T-Mac into MJ's role and Kobe into Pip's role. T-Mac would be my one on one scorer, the one to post up smaller guards. Kobe would be my all-around SF who could not only score but rebound, defend, and pass.

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So basically, you're calling Jordan a scorer and that's it. FYI, Jordan could rebound, defend, and pass.

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Where did I say Jordan was just a scorer???

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That's exactly what Tmac is, so I would put Paul Pierce as the SF before him.

**Rocky** · 06-10-2004, 10:42 AM

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jayballa said:
those are some decent comparisions.. but marion and pippen ... ehehehehe

<hr /></blockquote> Why?? Because Pip won 6 rings. Don't get me wrong, he was a great player...but if he didn't play on the Chicago Bulls he wouldn't even sniff a dream team. T-Mac is arguably better than Kobe(not saying he is, I think Kobe's better) whose being compared to Jordan. If anything, I would put T-Mac into MJ's role and Kobe into Pip's role. T-Mac would be my one on one scorer, the one to post up smaller guards. Kobe would be my all-around SF who could not only score but rebound, defend, and pass.

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So basically, you're calling Jordan a scorer and that's it. FYI, Jordan could rebound, defend, and pass.

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Where did I say Jordan was just a scorer???

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That's exactly what Tmac is, so I would put Paul Pierce as the SF before him.

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Actually T-Mac is a pretty good passer and rebounder. On the defensive end, it's another story. Anyways, I'm just saying that if I had T-Mac and Kobe on the same team, T-Mac would be my #1 scoring option but while Kobe can raise hell on both ends of the floor.

**Rocky** · 06-10-2004, 10:42 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

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jayballa said:
those are some decent comparisions.. but marion and pippen ... ehehehehe

<hr /></blockquote> Why?? Because Pip won 6 rings. Don't get me wrong, he was a great player...but if he didn't play on the Chicago Bulls he wouldn't even sniff a dream team. T-Mac is arguably better than Kobe(not saying he is, I think Kobe's better) whose being compared to Jordan. If anything, I would put T-Mac into MJ's role and Kobe into Pip's role. T-Mac would be my one on one scorer, the one to post up smaller guards. Kobe would be my all-around SF who could not only score but rebound, defend, and pass.

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So basically, you're calling Jordan a scorer and that's it. FYI, Jordan could rebound, defend, and pass.

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Where did I say Jordan was just a scorer???

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That's exactly what Tmac is, so I would put Paul Pierce as the SF before him.

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Actually T-Mac is a pretty good passer and rebounder. On the defensive end, it's another story. Anyways, I'm just saying that if I had T-Mac and Kobe on the same team, T-Mac would be my #1 scoring option but while Kobe can raise hell on both ends of the floor.

**Rocky** · 06-10-2004, 10:42 AM

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Rocky said:
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jayballa said:
those are some decent comparisions.. but marion and pippen ... ehehehehe

<hr /></blockquote> Why?? Because Pip won 6 rings. Don't get me wrong, he was a great player...but if he didn't play on the Chicago Bulls he wouldn't even sniff a dream team. T-Mac is arguably better than Kobe(not saying he is, I think Kobe's better) whose being compared to Jordan. If anything, I would put T-Mac into MJ's role and Kobe into Pip's role. T-Mac would be my one on one scorer, the one to post up smaller guards. Kobe would be my all-around SF who could not only score but rebound, defend, and pass.

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So basically, you're calling Jordan a scorer and that's it. FYI, Jordan could rebound, defend, and pass.

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Where did I say Jordan was just a scorer???

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That's exactly what Tmac is, so I would put Paul Pierce as the SF before him.

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Actually T-Mac is a pretty good passer and rebounder. On the defensive end, it's another story. Anyways, I'm just saying that if I had T-Mac and Kobe on the same team, T-Mac would be my #1 scoring option but while Kobe can raise hell on both ends of the floor.

**LedouxRoc** · 06-10-2004, 10:59 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

Anyways, I'm just saying that if I had T-Mac and Kobe on the same team, T-Mac would be my #1 scoring option but while Kobe can raise hell on both ends of the floor.

He'd be mine too. When Kobe's on the bench or injured.

**LedouxRoc** · 06-10-2004, 10:59 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

Anyways, I'm just saying that if I had T-Mac and Kobe on the same team, T-Mac would be my #1 scoring option but while Kobe can raise hell on both ends of the floor.

He'd be mine too. When Kobe's on the bench or injured.

**LedouxRoc** · 06-10-2004, 10:59 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

Anyways, I'm just saying that if I had T-Mac and Kobe on the same team, T-Mac would be my #1 scoring option but while Kobe can raise hell on both ends of the floor.

He'd be mine too. When Kobe's on the bench or injured.

**poster** · 06-10-2004, 11:11 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

Great post McCoy, I often wonder why no one gives Wilt props like Babe Ruth gets props. And Jordan was amazing no doubt, but Kobe has done more at his age than Jordan. If Kobe played in the mid 80's with no defense he would easily have shot over 50% without a doubt. Defense didnt come into play until the bad boys, and then phil taught the bulls defense to win. Both are great but by the time he's done Kobe could have a career as eventful no matter what people think.

**poster** · 06-10-2004, 11:11 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

Great post McCoy, I often wonder why no one gives Wilt props like Babe Ruth gets props. And Jordan was amazing no doubt, but Kobe has done more at his age than Jordan. If Kobe played in the mid 80's with no defense he would easily have shot over 50% without a doubt. Defense didnt come into play until the bad boys, and then phil taught the bulls defense to win. Both are great but by the time he's done Kobe could have a career as eventful no matter what people think.

**poster** · 06-10-2004, 11:11 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

Great post McCoy, I often wonder why no one gives Wilt props like Babe Ruth gets props. And Jordan was amazing no doubt, but Kobe has done more at his age than Jordan. If Kobe played in the mid 80's with no defense he would easily have shot over 50% without a doubt. Defense didnt come into play until the bad boys, and then phil taught the bulls defense to win. Both are great but by the time he's done Kobe could have a career as eventful no matter what people think.

**Jistic** · 06-10-2004, 11:20 AM

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Dynasty4Kobe said:
PG: Marko Jaric (8.5 ppg, 4.8 apg, 1.6 spg)
SG: Kobe Bryant (24.0 ppg, 5.1 apg, 5.5 rpg)
SF: Shawn Marion (19.0 ppg, 9.3 pg, 2.1 spg)
PF: Ben Wallace (9.5 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.0 bpg)
C: Erick Dampier (12.3 ppg, 12.0 rpg, 0.8 apg)
6: Manu Ginobili (12.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.8 apg)
7: Anthony Peeler (7.7 ppg, 3.0 apg, 41% 3PT)
8: Rasho Nestorivic (8.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 2.0 bpg)

VS.

PG: Ron Harper (7.4 ppg, 2.6 apg, 1.31 spg)
SG: Michael Jordan (30 ppg, 4.3 apg, 6.6 rpg)
SF: Scottie Pippen (19.4 ppg, 5.9 apg, 6.4 rpg)
PF: Dennis Rodman (5.5 ppg, 14.9 rpg, 5.6 ofrpg)
C: Horace Grant (13.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 2.7 apg)
6: Toni Kukoc (13.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.5 apg)
7: Steve Kerr (8.4 ppg, 2.3 apg, 52% 3PT)
8: Luc Longley (9.1 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.35 bpg)

This is based on HM's theory about giving Kobe a team similar to Jordan's.

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Good work, man...

In his defy one person to tell me that team couldn't win a title with Phil at the helm.

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One problem, Horace didn't play with that team he was gone to Orlando then. Luc Longley was the starting Center and Rodman played the 4.

**Jistic** · 06-10-2004, 11:20 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

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HMcCoy said:
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Dynasty4Kobe said:
PG: Marko Jaric (8.5 ppg, 4.8 apg, 1.6 spg)
SG: Kobe Bryant (24.0 ppg, 5.1 apg, 5.5 rpg)
SF: Shawn Marion (19.0 ppg, 9.3 pg, 2.1 spg)
PF: Ben Wallace (9.5 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.0 bpg)
C: Erick Dampier (12.3 ppg, 12.0 rpg, 0.8 apg)
6: Manu Ginobili (12.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.8 apg)
7: Anthony Peeler (7.7 ppg, 3.0 apg, 41% 3PT)
8: Rasho Nestorivic (8.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 2.0 bpg)

VS.

PG: Ron Harper (7.4 ppg, 2.6 apg, 1.31 spg)
SG: Michael Jordan (30 ppg, 4.3 apg, 6.6 rpg)
SF: Scottie Pippen (19.4 ppg, 5.9 apg, 6.4 rpg)
PF: Dennis Rodman (5.5 ppg, 14.9 rpg, 5.6 ofrpg)
C: Horace Grant (13.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 2.7 apg)
6: Toni Kukoc (13.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.5 apg)
7: Steve Kerr (8.4 ppg, 2.3 apg, 52% 3PT)
8: Luc Longley (9.1 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.35 bpg)

This is based on HM's theory about giving Kobe a team similar to Jordan's.

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Good work, man...

In his defy one person to tell me that team couldn't win a title with Phil at the helm.

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One problem, Horace didn't play with that team he was gone to Orlando then. Luc Longley was the starting Center and Rodman played the 4.

**Jistic** · 06-10-2004, 11:20 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

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HMcCoy said:
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Dynasty4Kobe said:
PG: Marko Jaric (8.5 ppg, 4.8 apg, 1.6 spg)
SG: Kobe Bryant (24.0 ppg, 5.1 apg, 5.5 rpg)
SF: Shawn Marion (19.0 ppg, 9.3 pg, 2.1 spg)
PF: Ben Wallace (9.5 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.0 bpg)
C: Erick Dampier (12.3 ppg, 12.0 rpg, 0.8 apg)
6: Manu Ginobili (12.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.8 apg)
7: Anthony Peeler (7.7 ppg, 3.0 apg, 41% 3PT)
8: Rasho Nestorivic (8.7 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 2.0 bpg)

VS.

PG: Ron Harper (7.4 ppg, 2.6 apg, 1.31 spg)
SG: Michael Jordan (30 ppg, 4.3 apg, 6.6 rpg)
SF: Scottie Pippen (19.4 ppg, 5.9 apg, 6.4 rpg)
PF: Dennis Rodman (5.5 ppg, 14.9 rpg, 5.6 ofrpg)
C: Horace Grant (13.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 2.7 apg)
6: Toni Kukoc (13.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.5 apg)
7: Steve Kerr (8.4 ppg, 2.3 apg, 52% 3PT)
8: Luc Longley (9.1 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.35 bpg)

This is based on HM's theory about giving Kobe a team similar to Jordan's.

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Good work, man...

In his defy one person to tell me that team couldn't win a title with Phil at the helm.

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One problem, Horace didn't play with that team he was gone to Orlando then. Luc Longley was the starting Center and Rodman played the 4.

**Leon** · 06-10-2004, 11:21 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

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Great post McCoy, I often wonder why no one gives Wilt props like Babe Ruth gets props. And Jordan was amazing no doubt, but Kobe has done more at his age than Jordan. If Kobe played in the mid 80's with no defense he would easily have shot over 50% without a doubt. Defense didnt come into play until the bad boys, and then phil taught the bulls defense to win. Both are great but by the time he's done Kobe could have a career as eventful no matter what people think.

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Defense was quite prominent during that time. And what exactly has Kobe done more than Jordan at his age? Win 3, quite possibly 4 rings? If so, that doesn't hold much weight considering Kobe has the better team compared to Jordan's mid/late 80's team.

Kobe's great but I'd rather wait and see how his career pans out before calling him one of the best ever.

**Leon** · 06-10-2004, 11:21 AM

Re: Michael Jordan - The Legend

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poster said:
Great post McCoy, I often wonder why no one gives Wilt props like Babe Ruth gets props. And Jordan was amazing no doubt, but Kobe has done more at his age than Jordan. If Kobe played in the mid 80's with no defense he would easily have shot over 50% without a doubt. Defense didnt come into play until the bad boys, and then phil taught the bulls defense to win. Both are great but by the time he's done Kobe could have a career as eventful no matter what people think.

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Defense was quite prominent during that time. And what exactly has Kobe done more than Jordan at his age? Win 3, quite possibly 4 rings? If so, that doesn't hold much weight considering Kobe has the better team compared to Jordan's mid/late 80's team.

Kobe's great but I'd rather wait and see how his career pans out before calling him one of the best ever.

Michael Jordan - The Legend

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