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  • WTF
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    • Aug 2002
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    #61
    Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

    Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

    Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?
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      yellow
      • Sep 2002
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      #62
      Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

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      wtferrell said:
      Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

      Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      He hasn't signed anything yet, but I mean they should at least give some of those things a shot instead of going down with the white flag up. They are trying to free up some space now I believe so at least put up some kind of effort to do the best you can.

      Stro will be signed back, but that doesn't mean West wont trade him for the right piece. Get Damp and trade him to Memphis. Something. They aren't totally helpless in the offseson and have some money to work with albeit it's not much.

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        yellow
        • Sep 2002
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        #63
        Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

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        wtferrell said:
        Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

        Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        He hasn't signed anything yet, but I mean they should at least give some of those things a shot instead of going down with the white flag up. They are trying to free up some space now I believe so at least put up some kind of effort to do the best you can.

        Stro will be signed back, but that doesn't mean West wont trade him for the right piece. Get Damp and trade him to Memphis. Something. They aren't totally helpless in the offseson and have some money to work with albeit it's not much.

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          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #64
          Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

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          wtferrell said:
          Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

          Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          He hasn't signed anything yet, but I mean they should at least give some of those things a shot instead of going down with the white flag up. They are trying to free up some space now I believe so at least put up some kind of effort to do the best you can.

          Stro will be signed back, but that doesn't mean West wont trade him for the right piece. Get Damp and trade him to Memphis. Something. They aren't totally helpless in the offseson and have some money to work with albeit it's not much.

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          • JazzX
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            • Aug 2002
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            #65
            Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

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            wtferrell said:
            Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

            Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            Swift has not re-signed, but West will never let him leave for the mid-level exception.

            I was actually thinking that the other day. West wants a center, they tried to pawn off Wright in the expansion draft, and Swift can't really develop behind Gasol. An Ilgauskas for Swift, Wright deal should work out contract wise and makes sense for both teams. The only problem is Z's one year contract. The Grizz would have to count on re-signing him. Also Cleveland would lose some future cap room.

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            • JazzX
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              • Aug 2002
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              #66
              Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

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              wtferrell said:
              Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

              Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Swift has not re-signed, but West will never let him leave for the mid-level exception.

              I was actually thinking that the other day. West wants a center, they tried to pawn off Wright in the expansion draft, and Swift can't really develop behind Gasol. An Ilgauskas for Swift, Wright deal should work out contract wise and makes sense for both teams. The only problem is Z's one year contract. The Grizz would have to count on re-signing him. Also Cleveland would lose some future cap room.

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              • JazzX
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                • Aug 2002
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                #67
                Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                wtferrell said:
                Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

                Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Swift has not re-signed, but West will never let him leave for the mid-level exception.

                I was actually thinking that the other day. West wants a center, they tried to pawn off Wright in the expansion draft, and Swift can't really develop behind Gasol. An Ilgauskas for Swift, Wright deal should work out contract wise and makes sense for both teams. The only problem is Z's one year contract. The Grizz would have to count on re-signing him. Also Cleveland would lose some future cap room.

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                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
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                  #68
                  Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

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                  JazzX said:
                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  wtferrell said:
                  Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

                  Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  Swift has not re-signed, but West will never let him leave for the mid-level exception.

                  I was actually thinking that the other day. West wants a center, they tried to pawn off Wright in the expansion draft, and Swift can't really develop behind Gasol. An Ilgauskas for Swift, Wright deal should work out contract wise and makes sense for both teams. The only problem is Z's one year contract. The Grizz would have to count on re-signing him. Also Cleveland would lose some future cap room.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  What else would the Grizz need, and Cleveland can work the roster issues out later. They have at least one main piece now.

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                    • Sep 2002
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                    #69
                    Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    JazzX said:
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    wtferrell said:
                    Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

                    Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Swift has not re-signed, but West will never let him leave for the mid-level exception.

                    I was actually thinking that the other day. West wants a center, they tried to pawn off Wright in the expansion draft, and Swift can't really develop behind Gasol. An Ilgauskas for Swift, Wright deal should work out contract wise and makes sense for both teams. The only problem is Z's one year contract. The Grizz would have to count on re-signing him. Also Cleveland would lose some future cap room.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    What else would the Grizz need, and Cleveland can work the roster issues out later. They have at least one main piece now.

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                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
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                      #70
                      Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      JazzX said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      wtferrell said:
                      Has Stro signed back on with the Grizz yet? I wouldn't mind seeing Etan come to the Cavs because he is a garbage player, and usually gives his all. He has decent hands, and think he could flourish alongside of Lebron. He won't be Boozer, or Stro, but he would be a nice pickup if we could get him.

                      Since Utah frontloaded Boozers contract, there isn't much of a way to sign and trade him is there?

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Swift has not re-signed, but West will never let him leave for the mid-level exception.

                      I was actually thinking that the other day. West wants a center, they tried to pawn off Wright in the expansion draft, and Swift can't really develop behind Gasol. An Ilgauskas for Swift, Wright deal should work out contract wise and makes sense for both teams. The only problem is Z's one year contract. The Grizz would have to count on re-signing him. Also Cleveland would lose some future cap room.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      What else would the Grizz need, and Cleveland can work the roster issues out later. They have at least one main piece now.

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                        #71
                        Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

                        I think I would probably do that if I were the Grizz and the Cavs. Sure Z's contract expires after this season, but with the Grizz being a pretty good team, Z shouldn't have any problems resigning with them.
                        The Cavs get Swift, who could be an improvement over Boozer, and Wright, who could see some good minutes. It works out for me.
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                          #72
                          Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

                          I think I would probably do that if I were the Grizz and the Cavs. Sure Z's contract expires after this season, but with the Grizz being a pretty good team, Z shouldn't have any problems resigning with them.
                          The Cavs get Swift, who could be an improvement over Boozer, and Wright, who could see some good minutes. It works out for me.
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                            #73
                            Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

                            I think I would probably do that if I were the Grizz and the Cavs. Sure Z's contract expires after this season, but with the Grizz being a pretty good team, Z shouldn't have any problems resigning with them.
                            The Cavs get Swift, who could be an improvement over Boozer, and Wright, who could see some good minutes. It works out for me.
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                            • UC_Baller
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                              #74
                              Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

                              Since many people are confused about the Carlos Boozer situation, here are some articles (thanks to hoopshype.com) that should educate some.

                              "Boozer speaking exclusively to The Plain Dealer by telephone Monday, said that is not true and he wants to set the record straight. "I didn't make a prior agreement. And if I did, I would've stayed here," Boozer said. For them [Cavaliers] taking shots at my character is incredibly wrong, and I don't understand that. I thought I had a great relationship with them. Maybe they're trying to save face or trying to make up stuff and kill my character. And if that's the road they want to take, that's OK." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                              "I assumed they were going to pick up my option and work something out for the long term, but they went another route," Boozer said. "I was shocked that they didn't pick up my option. I left the meeting excited because this meant that I was going to get a long-term contract." Boozer was surprised the Cavs didn't pick up his option because he said management gave him every indication in earlier informal conversations that they would." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                              "So on June 30, according to Boozer, owner Gordon Gund and General Manager Jim Paxson asked him what was important to him. Boozer said that financial security and remaining in Cleveland were important. "But during that meeting, it seemed like they were going down the road of wanting a commitment," Boozer said. "My agent pulled out the collective bargaining agreement, and he said that the rules don't allow a verbal or written agreement and everyone at the table understood that. During the course of that meeting, it was brought to my attention that [management] weren't going to pick up my option . They made that [decision] on their own." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                              "Maybe with me telling them that I wanted to be in Cleveland and wanting to have security could've made them believe I was going to sign with them, but that wasn't an agreement," Boozer said. "I never gave them my word, never signed a document and I never shook hands with the idea that I was going to sign." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                              "I called Paxson and Gordon and told them what was out there and the situation that was presented to me in Utah," Boozer said. "They told me 'You can't do this, you gave your word.'I told them that I didn't give them my word. The only organization I gave my word to was Utah. I called [Utah GM] Kevin O'Connor and I told them that I accepted their offer and that's the only word I gave during this process. I plan to sign the offer sheet tomorrow." Gund and Paxson were not available for comment. Silas was not available. He's in Oakland because of his mother's recent death." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                              "Why would they try to sign me?" Boozer said. "They've tried to demoralize me as a human being. They tried to depict me as a kind of guy that bamboozled people. They've lied and painted a picture that we had an illegal deal. They tried to say we had an oral agreement before July 1, and that didn't happen." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                              "But a source close to Boozer indicated that the 6-foot-8 forward has not changed his intention to sign the Jazz's offer sheet once the NBA's moratorium on transactions is lifted at 10 p.m. MDT tonight. "Going back to Cleveland looks like it would only hurt more," the source said. "In Utah, there is a new start with people who seem to believe in [Boozer]." Salt Lake Tribune

                              "The avalanche of negative publicity his defection has triggered -- some of it, Boozer is said to suspect, prompted by Paxson -- apparently has hardened Boozer's intentions. "Cleveland is making that offer," the source confirmed, "but why would [Boozer] take it when [the Cavs] told the world that...[he is a] liar and has no moral character, when they know the truth?" Salt Lake Tribune

                              Boozer said that Pelinka was forced to end his relationship by order of SFX, the sports management company for which he works, because he was receiving pressure from different sources. "It was overwhelming for him," Boozer said. "He was getting death threats. Rob Pelinka didn't do anything wrong and I didn't do anything wrong. He's taken a lot of heat for something he doesn't need to take heat for. This is the Cav's mistake. The Cav's created this." Cleveland Plain Dealer

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                              • UC_Baller
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 171

                                #75
                                Re: Boozer says he didnt make an agreement with the Cavs

                                Since many people are confused about the Carlos Boozer situation, here are some articles (thanks to hoopshype.com) that should educate some.

                                "Boozer speaking exclusively to The Plain Dealer by telephone Monday, said that is not true and he wants to set the record straight. "I didn't make a prior agreement. And if I did, I would've stayed here," Boozer said. For them [Cavaliers] taking shots at my character is incredibly wrong, and I don't understand that. I thought I had a great relationship with them. Maybe they're trying to save face or trying to make up stuff and kill my character. And if that's the road they want to take, that's OK." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                                "I assumed they were going to pick up my option and work something out for the long term, but they went another route," Boozer said. "I was shocked that they didn't pick up my option. I left the meeting excited because this meant that I was going to get a long-term contract." Boozer was surprised the Cavs didn't pick up his option because he said management gave him every indication in earlier informal conversations that they would." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                                "So on June 30, according to Boozer, owner Gordon Gund and General Manager Jim Paxson asked him what was important to him. Boozer said that financial security and remaining in Cleveland were important. "But during that meeting, it seemed like they were going down the road of wanting a commitment," Boozer said. "My agent pulled out the collective bargaining agreement, and he said that the rules don't allow a verbal or written agreement and everyone at the table understood that. During the course of that meeting, it was brought to my attention that [management] weren't going to pick up my option . They made that [decision] on their own." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                                "Maybe with me telling them that I wanted to be in Cleveland and wanting to have security could've made them believe I was going to sign with them, but that wasn't an agreement," Boozer said. "I never gave them my word, never signed a document and I never shook hands with the idea that I was going to sign." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                                "I called Paxson and Gordon and told them what was out there and the situation that was presented to me in Utah," Boozer said. "They told me 'You can't do this, you gave your word.'I told them that I didn't give them my word. The only organization I gave my word to was Utah. I called [Utah GM] Kevin O'Connor and I told them that I accepted their offer and that's the only word I gave during this process. I plan to sign the offer sheet tomorrow." Gund and Paxson were not available for comment. Silas was not available. He's in Oakland because of his mother's recent death." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                                "Why would they try to sign me?" Boozer said. "They've tried to demoralize me as a human being. They tried to depict me as a kind of guy that bamboozled people. They've lied and painted a picture that we had an illegal deal. They tried to say we had an oral agreement before July 1, and that didn't happen." Cleveland Plain Dealer

                                "But a source close to Boozer indicated that the 6-foot-8 forward has not changed his intention to sign the Jazz's offer sheet once the NBA's moratorium on transactions is lifted at 10 p.m. MDT tonight. "Going back to Cleveland looks like it would only hurt more," the source said. "In Utah, there is a new start with people who seem to believe in [Boozer]." Salt Lake Tribune

                                "The avalanche of negative publicity his defection has triggered -- some of it, Boozer is said to suspect, prompted by Paxson -- apparently has hardened Boozer's intentions. "Cleveland is making that offer," the source confirmed, "but why would [Boozer] take it when [the Cavs] told the world that...[he is a] liar and has no moral character, when they know the truth?" Salt Lake Tribune

                                Boozer said that Pelinka was forced to end his relationship by order of SFX, the sports management company for which he works, because he was receiving pressure from different sources. "It was overwhelming for him," Boozer said. "He was getting death threats. Rob Pelinka didn't do anything wrong and I didn't do anything wrong. He's taken a lot of heat for something he doesn't need to take heat for. This is the Cav's mistake. The Cav's created this." Cleveland Plain Dealer

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