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  • jordan0386
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    • May 2003
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    #136
    Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

    thats the most sensible thing you have said all night...but, i still disagree


    lets pick this up again sometime...it was fun not having to resort to calling names(which, maybe you wanted to )


    late...

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    • jordan0386
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      • May 2003
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      #137
      Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

      thats the most sensible thing you have said all night...but, i still disagree


      lets pick this up again sometime...it was fun not having to resort to calling names(which, maybe you wanted to )


      late...

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      • jordan0386
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        • May 2003
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        #138
        Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

        lemme just add...when you say overall talent gap is closing yet our premier players are still the best in the world

        so of the two leagues...

        how many 2nd tier players from overseas can "last" in the nba compared to the amount of 2nd tier players from the nba "last" overseas

        we smack that statistic by a wide margin....not to mention we know almost no one over there who is note worthy to begin with
        Last edited by jordan0386; 08-29-2004, 11:38 PM.

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        • jordan0386
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          • May 2003
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          #139
          Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

          lemme just add...when you say overall talent gap is closing yet our premier players are still the best in the world

          so of the two leagues...

          how many 2nd tier players from overseas can "last" in the nba compared to the amount of 2nd tier players from the nba "last" overseas

          we smack that statistic by a wide margin....not to mention we know almost no one over there who is note worthy to begin with

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          • TallTell
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            • May 2004
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            #140
            Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            Actually we've lost the last two major tournaments.

            If the world isn't catching up why are we 8-6 in the two most recent major tourneys? Why can't we win, unless we put out our very best players. Jeez, we didn't even medal in the world championships, and that team was full of NBA All-Stars.

            We maybe a joke, but you are in denial.
            Dude, we've never won a tournament that didn't include our very best players.



            I find it hard to believe that a team of the very best NBA players would have to put out a max effort to get the gold. OMG, do you know what a tmac and kobe ON THE SAME TEAM would do that those pathetic zones? Hell, we could put Garnett, a freakin' 7 footer on a guard and he'd shut those 3s up real quick.
            Last edited by TallTell; 08-30-2004, 12:51 AM.

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            • TallTell
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              • May 2004
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              #141
              Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

              Originally posted by bkrich83
              Actually we've lost the last two major tournaments.

              If the world isn't catching up why are we 8-6 in the two most recent major tourneys? Why can't we win, unless we put out our very best players. Jeez, we didn't even medal in the world championships, and that team was full of NBA All-Stars.

              We maybe a joke, but you are in denial.
              Dude, we've never won a tournament that didn't include our very best players.



              I find it hard to believe that a team of the very best NBA players would have to put out a max effort to get the gold. OMG, do you know what a tmac and kobe ON THE SAME TEAM would do that those pathetic zones? Hell, we could put Garnett, a freakin' 7 footer on a guard and he'd shut those 3s up real quick.

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              • bkrich83
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                #142
                Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

                Originally posted by TallTell
                Dude, we've never won a tournament that didn't include our very best players.



                I find it hard to believe that a team of the very best NBA players would have to put out a max effort to get the gold. OMG, do you know what a tmac and kobe ON THE SAME TEAM would do that those pathetic zones? Hell, we could put Garnett, a freakin' 7 footer on a guard and he'd shut those 3s up real quick.
                Actually we have. Multiple Olympic wins when we were letting our college players play. Multiple world championships before this last one in 2002.

                The world is catching up, even the NBA folks are saying it.
                Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                • bkrich83
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                  #143
                  Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

                  Originally posted by TallTell
                  Dude, we've never won a tournament that didn't include our very best players.



                  I find it hard to believe that a team of the very best NBA players would have to put out a max effort to get the gold. OMG, do you know what a tmac and kobe ON THE SAME TEAM would do that those pathetic zones? Hell, we could put Garnett, a freakin' 7 footer on a guard and he'd shut those 3s up real quick.
                  Actually we have. Multiple Olympic wins when we were letting our college players play. Multiple world championships before this last one in 2002.

                  The world is catching up, even the NBA folks are saying it.
                  Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                  • DueceDiggla
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 4915

                    #144
                    Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

                    Chad Ford had a good idea, and I'm sorry if this was already mentioned. Take the best US born international players and lets them represent us in the Olympics. At least they're used to the international rules, and have played against most of the guys in the Olympics before.

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                    • DueceDiggla
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 4915

                      #145
                      Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

                      Chad Ford had a good idea, and I'm sorry if this was already mentioned. Take the best US born international players and lets them represent us in the Olympics. At least they're used to the international rules, and have played against most of the guys in the Olympics before.

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                      • jordan0386
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                        • May 2003
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                        #146
                        Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

                        bk...you dont like the current nba for whatever, but dont be foolish

                        how many 2nd tier europeans can have careers in the nba, huh

                        michael redd is a second tier nba player...you send him overseas for one year...he avgs 40 with that 20 foot 3 point line

                        you send erik dampier over there...LMAO...you thought his contract year was good

                        they cant f with us...they cant

                        our 2nd tier players would be kareems and russells and magics over there...gimme a break...it aint even close

                        the talent has not caught up, if they cant last in our league...period

                        stop trying to make it 50/50...its 75/25 usa

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                        • jordan0386
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                          • May 2003
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                          #147
                          Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

                          bk...you dont like the current nba for whatever, but dont be foolish

                          how many 2nd tier europeans can have careers in the nba, huh

                          michael redd is a second tier nba player...you send him overseas for one year...he avgs 40 with that 20 foot 3 point line

                          you send erik dampier over there...LMAO...you thought his contract year was good

                          they cant f with us...they cant

                          our 2nd tier players would be kareems and russells and magics over there...gimme a break...it aint even close

                          the talent has not caught up, if they cant last in our league...period

                          stop trying to make it 50/50...its 75/25 usa

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                          • bkrich83
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                            #148
                            Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

                            Originally posted by jordan0386
                            bk...you dont like the current nba for whatever, but dont be foolish

                            how many 2nd tier europeans can have careers in the nba, huh

                            michael redd is a second tier nba player...you send him overseas for one year...he avgs 40 with that 20 foot 3 point line

                            you send erik dampier over there...LMAO...you thought his contract year was good

                            they cant f with us...they cant

                            our 2nd tier players would be kareems and russells and magics over there...gimme a break...it aint even close

                            the talent has not caught up, if they cant last in our league...period

                            stop trying to make it 50/50...its 75/25 usa
                            So you're right and all the NBA and basketball people on TV and in print are wrong?
                            Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                            • bkrich83
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                              #149
                              Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

                              Originally posted by jordan0386
                              bk...you dont like the current nba for whatever, but dont be foolish

                              how many 2nd tier europeans can have careers in the nba, huh

                              michael redd is a second tier nba player...you send him overseas for one year...he avgs 40 with that 20 foot 3 point line

                              you send erik dampier over there...LMAO...you thought his contract year was good

                              they cant f with us...they cant

                              our 2nd tier players would be kareems and russells and magics over there...gimme a break...it aint even close

                              the talent has not caught up, if they cant last in our league...period

                              stop trying to make it 50/50...its 75/25 usa
                              So you're right and all the NBA and basketball people on TV and in print are wrong?
                              Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                              • jordan0386
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                                • May 2003
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                                #150
                                Re: Okay. I'm Starting To Change Mind

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                                so explain to me...how this talent gap is closing...somebody...please
                                Last edited by jordan0386; 08-30-2004, 02:48 AM.

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