Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

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  • SteelersFreak
    All Star
    • May 2004
    • 9582

    #376
    Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Streets
    God that would be amazing. Dallas and the Lakers are my two least favorite teams in the NBA.

    I just had a thought. It appears Rondo is now the scapegoat for all of Dallas' woes. Assuming Rondo plays next game, any chance he gets booed every time he touches the ball? Has that ever happened for a home team player? Should be fun to watch.
    Unlikely. Mavs fans have been pretty supportive of Rondo and there aren't very many players that get booed. Terry likely won't get many boo's in his playoff return to the AAC either.

    Now, if Rondo starts making bone-headed plays and bricking open shots, you might start hearing some boo's.

    Rondo is going to become the scapegoat for the team in the media but really things haven't been that bad. The Mavs had the best offensive rating in the entire league over the last month of the season, and that was with Rondo in the lineup. Rondo put in some fine defensive performances over the course of the season too, but it seems to me like the playoffs have started and the butting of heads between Rick and Rondo has reared its ugly head again. I think letting Rondo play a 6th man role and play with guys that don't need the ball in their hands much offensively and letting him run the offense in those situations would be a smart way to handle things but I doubt Rondo will accept taking the kind of role at this point. He's too old, he's too stuck in his ways, he's too used to running the offense the way he wants to.

    I understand why we brought him in, and I'm sure we'll see blog post upon think piece upon Tweet about how horrible a decision it was to bring him in. I'm sure we'll get comparisons to what Rondo did here and what Brandan Wright and Jae Crowder did with Phoenix and Boston. I'm sure we'll see lots and lots of Cuban vs. Morey comparisons and people will ask if Cuban has lost the plot and I'm sure tons will say he's hugely overrated and the whole nine yards. But I understand why we brought him in. In theory, if it works, its a potentially deadly lineup. A lineup of Rondo/Ellis/Parsons/Dirk/Chandler sounded pretty damn good even to the biggest skeptics out there but due to various things its never really panned out and I don't think many anticipated just how badly Carlisle and him would butt heads.

    As much as I wanted it to work, after last night, I just want this season to be over. I want the Mavs to bring in youth. That's why I don't have a problem with overpaying Parsons, he's young, he's got potential, yeah, he had a poor first season with us, but he also dealt with a bunch of injuries and massive roster turnover throughout the season. I'm tired of seeing the likes of Amare Stoudemire coming in after we trade away other youth. I think Cuban and the Mavs in general need to step back and look at what happened this season. They dominated poor competition but when they played playoff teams they played really poorly. This isn't an upper echelon team, its a misfit band of mostly veterans and castaways from other teams that has just enough firepower to be a solid enough team and get into the playoffs.

    The past few years, that approach has worked well enough with the way guys like Vince Carter and Shawn Marion have played, but its coming to an end. We've traded all our draft picks away the last like 5 years in a row, we have really only two young guys with a lot of upside I'd say in Parsons and Aminu. We still haven't found the next franchise center piece after Dirk. Cuban needs to realize that for whatever reason, Dallas isn't a place where big name free agents are going to run towards with open arms. They're going to go to the Lakers, the Clippers, the Rockets, the Thunder, the Bulls, and other teams like that before the Mavs so we need to actually develop some players of our own instead of letting other teams do it for us and then getting them when they're past their prime or trading the players we do develop ourselves for them.

    Wow, I ranted a lot there, lol. I don't expect anyone to read that, but I just wanted to vent some frustrations I've had this season with the Mavs. Being this kind of first-round exit team wasn't so bad when we hadn't won a championship but now that we have, I'd rather see us suck for a year or two or at least miss the playoffs and then come back with a much stronger team, than do just enough to get into the playoffs and then hope we can make another crazy run.
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    • JazzMan
      SOLDIER, First Class...
      • Feb 2012
      • 13547

      #377
      Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

      Rondo can be a hell of a player on the right team and in the right situation. I thought Dallas was a weird fit for him, since they have a ball-dominant two in Monta and a facilitator in Parsons, not to mention having Devin Harris (who is a far better fit with his skillset).

      Rondo just doesn't provide the Mavs with the floor spacing that they need in that starting lineup.
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      • SteelersFreak
        All Star
        • May 2004
        • 9582

        #378
        Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

        What strikes me so much when I watch Rondo is just how amazing he could be if he just had a decent jump shot. Who the hell let him shoot like that growing up? He puts the ball in his whole palm.
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        • OkayC
          MVP
          • Apr 2013
          • 1928

          #379
          Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
          Have fun with him and Kobe next year.
          Dont say that king, or i will wish injury on your team lol
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          • King_B_Mack
            All Star
            • Jan 2009
            • 24450

            #380
            Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by OkayC
            Dont say that king, or i will wish injury on your team lol
            I ain't worried. That's gonna happen anyway lol.

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            • tripleh1142
              Rookie
              • Feb 2003
              • 418

              #381
              Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
              Have fun with him and Kobe next year.
              That would be entertaining. We might see the first in game brawl between teammates. Ball dominant point guards and Kobe are not a good fit. It sure would be fun to watch if you are not a fan of the Lakers though.

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              • OkayC
                MVP
                • Apr 2013
                • 1928

                #382
                Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                I ain't worried. That's gonna happen anyway lol.
                Maybe i shouldve said ill wish it on rose next round lol.
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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #383
                  Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                  How'd this dude get an 8 second violation then not olay defense to give up a 3 on the inbound all at the same time?

                  You know his mind was not in the game

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                  • lilteapot
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 4550

                    #384
                    Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by 23
                    How'd this dude get an 8 second violation then not olay defense to give up a 3 on the inbound all at the same time?

                    You know his mind was not in the game
                    and people still have the nerve to give Carlisle ****. You pull that BS in a playoff game the coach has every right to bench your ***.

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                    • JODYE
                      JB4MVP
                      • May 2012
                      • 4834

                      #385
                      Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                      Yeah was definitely wrong in hindsight about how Rondo would effect this Mavericks team.

                      I was one of probably many that thought Rondo still had that other gear that he could flip on in the playoffs in regards to competing and being a difference maker. Definitely didn't expect what I'm seeing now.

                      Mentally the guy is completely out of it. Not sure if it's because of the rift between him or Carlisle or what it is but he is definitely gone at the end of the year without question.
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                      • Boltman
                        L.A. to S.D. to HI
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 18283

                        #386
                        Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                        Have fun with him and Kobe next year.
                        No... Just stop.

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #387
                          Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Boltman
                          No... Just stop.

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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24450

                            #388
                            Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Boltman
                            No... Just stop.
                            Don't be mad at me man. Your GM Bean has been working on sealing this deal for a while now lol

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                            • Vni
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 14833

                              #389
                              Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                              If they sign Rondo and give him the max, I think the lakers FO deserves some kind of award. But all theses rumours, Kobe wanting Rondo... It's scary.

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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #390
                                Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                                Don't be mad at me man. Your GM Bean has been working on sealing this deal for a while now lol


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