2016 NBA Offseason Thread

[King_B_Mack]

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So if Noah is getting $18 mil then D12 is gonna get AT LEAST $25 mil.

It'd be such a Dwight thing to do to opt out of 25 million dollar option to sign for 25 million dollars.


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[cima]

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It'd be such a Dwight thing to do to opt out of 25 million dollar option to sign for 25 million dollars.


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True lol but I think he just really wanted out of Houston, so he'd be fine getting the same amount for a team he'd actually want to play for.

[areobee401]

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@WojVerticalNBA
Sources: As 12:01 AM nears, free agent Hassan Whiteside's focus is centered on Miami and Dallas. Decision could come quickly on July 1.

[Armor and Sword]

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KD's last meeting in the Hamptons will be with the Godfather AKA:

Pat Riley.

You all have been warned.

[jeremym480]

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What would a fair trade be though? Most I can see Raptors offering is:
Ross,Wright,2017 1st(more favorable of their 2).

Would that be worth Noel?

Ross would be their starting SG(ending the starting SG trio they went with). Wright would have shot at being their starting PG. 2017 pick obviously could help them in a future package deal, or combining it with their own 1st to move up in draft.

I feel like the 76ers can get a much better package than that for Noel. I just don't see the trading one of their two best players last year and someone who projects to be one of the best defensive big's in the coming years for three bench warmers (even if they do show potential) and what will likely be a 1st Rounder in the 20's. Surely another team can offer something better than that.

If Philly really wants to trade Noel their best bet is to wait until the smoke clears with Free Agency and trade him to a team that missed out on their top targets. Capitalizing on another teams desperation FTW.

[TMagic]

2016 Offseason Thread

@WojVerticalNBA

Sources: As 12:01 AM nears, free agent Hassan Whiteside's focus is centered on Miami and Dallas. Decision could come quickly on July 1.

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KD's last meeting in the Hamptons will be with the Godfather AKA:

Pat Riley.

You all have been warned.

OKC is working on a 2nd meeting with him after that

[SPTO]

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I feel like the 76ers can get a much better package than that for Noel. I just don't see the trading one of their two best players last year and someone who projects to be one of the best defensive big's in the coming years for three bench warmers (even if they do show potential) and what will likely be a 1st Rounder in the 20's. Surely another team can offer something better than that.

If Philly really wants to trade Noel their best bet is to wait until the smoke clears with Free Agency and trade him to a team that missed out on their top targets. Capitalizing on another teams desperation FTW.

All I have to say is: Colangelo.

The guy just LOVES tinkering with his roster. I wouldn't be surprised if a deal does come through.


Anywho, DeRozan will be meeting with the Raptors in LA tomorrow and possibly 4 other teams (Miami, Dallas, Philly and the Lakers)

[bigeastbumrush]

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So if Noah is getting $18 mil then D12 is gonna get AT LEAST $25 mil.

I'm hoping Phil uses his Zen magic tricks to bring that Noah price down.

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Literally thinking the same. "Joakim...you're from here. You love it here. You don't need 18 million tl be happy. This is not the contract that you are looking for. *waves hand* how about a 1+1 for 12 million and an autographed copy of my latest book?"

Some good perspective for us on how we should be looking at these new deals:

From Bobby Marks (former front office exec from the Nets):

Can't stress enough that contracts under the new TV $ should be viewed as a % against the cap compared to actual $ figure.

For example an $18m contract signed this July = a $13m contract based on a $70m cap from 2015-16.

$18M of a $94M cap? Noah would account for 19% of the Knicks' salary cap.
Last year...$13M of a $70M cap? 19%.

Essentially the equivalent of last year's numbers.

And the cap goes up next year.

Some of these deals are going to be looking ridiculous. We as fans have to adjust how we look at them. 19% of your cap for an injury prone player is still a lot but last I checked it was Dolan's money and we haven't been hesitant to ship out players with years remaining on their contract.

[SPTO]

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Some of these deals are going to be looking ridiculous. We as fans have to adjust how we look at them. 19% of your cap for an injury prone player is still a lot but last I checked it was Dolan's money and we haven't been hesitant to ship out players with years remaining on their contract.

Not exclusive to the Knicks but man, we're going to see some deals that will blow our brains based on how much some very average guys are going to be paid. If I can offer a comparable it's very much like the NHL when the cap went up significantly a few years ago. You're going to see some contracts that will make you cringe. I wonder if the NBA will try to impose a buyout clause the way the NHL does when they negotiate their next labor deal.

[Vni]

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Well, just be prepared to welcome Hibbert for another year.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Im not even going in a meeting if you don't have room for the max. Seriously, I'd be legit insulted if Doc tried to get me to take a pay cut for the privilege of playing in Lob City.

I mean, if Durant can get roughly $25 mil on a "max deal" or take $24 mil to go to the Clippers, I don't think that $1 mil will be what stops him. If he thinks that's the best situation for him, he can do an ad with his new teammates CP3 and Blake and make that $1 mil back easily.

Their bench will be ungodly terrible though. People thought Miami's was bad when LeBron was there... they had 7 or 8 non-league-minimum guys on those teams. The Clippers would have 0. Zero. They wouldn't even be able to sign their draft picks unless Durant wants to take a slightly steeper paycut.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Some good perspective for us on how we should be looking at these new deals:

From Bobby Marks (former front office exec from the Nets):


$18M of a $94M cap? Noah would account for 19% of the Knicks' salary cap.
Last year...$13M of a $70M cap? 19%.

Essentially the equivalent of last year's numbers.

And the cap goes up next year.

Some of these deals are going to be looking ridiculous. We as fans have to adjust how we look at them. 19% of your cap for an injury prone player is still a lot but last I checked it was Dolan's money and we haven't been hesitant to ship out players with years remaining on their contract.

I don't think he was worth that much last year either, but it is what it is. It won't be that bad if it's only a 1 or 2 year deal.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Jarrett Jack has officially been waived per Marc Spears

[DieHardYankee26]

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I mean, if Durant can get roughly $25 mil on a "max deal" or take $24 mil to go to the Clippers, I don't think that $1 mil will be what stops him. If he thinks that's the best situation for him, he can do an ad with his new teammates CP3 and Blake and make that $1 mil back easily.

Uh no, their roster would be what stops him. I'm against taking pay cuts in the first place, but this isn't the Warriors. I wouldn't even CONSIDER taking a pay cut to play with CP3, Blake, and DJ and no bench. That's ridiculous.

Also the Joakim thing, I mentioned earlier that the deal was the "same as the Rolo deal" but those figures don't make it seem better to me. I've gotta learn cap figures and how everything works, but does it sound better that he'd be almost 1/5 of our cap? That sounds worse to me.