2016 NBA Offseason Thread

[SPTO]

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Your team is about to give DeMar DeRozan a max, I suggest you sit this round out.

Every GM makes one bad move...At least DeRozan is productive enough in the regular season that the fanbase and team can swallow the pill.

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Anybody else thinks the Knicks should look to move Anthony this summer ? I don't get why they'd keep him around, might aswell go in full rebuild mode. Make a deal with the celtics, get some picks. It'd work out for both teams. Off course Melo would have to agree but why woudn't he really.

I think they should.

I can understand why they wouldn't but yeah, they really need to rebuild the right way. They have Porzingis and that's a great start. Add a couple of young up and coming stars with him and build around that.

[Vni]

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Phil should have just let that man come to Chicago. I wonder how different things would be had he?

Doubt it would have made a big difference.

[redsox4evur]

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I think they should.

I can understand why they wouldn't but yeah, they really need to rebuild the right way. They have Porzingis and that's a great start. Add a couple of young up and coming stars with him and build around that.

What could they get for Melo?

[CMH]

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They should and I think Phil wants to. Melo refuses to be moved.

I get the feeling Phil re-signed Melo hoping to trade him for something. One of those early GM mistakes because he didn't fully understand the landscape nor that dangling a no-trade was a bad idea.

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What could they get for Melo?

I honestly haven't thought about it but I'm sure he could be had. Either someone looking to unload something they find dead weight because they're trying to contend or thinking Melo can help get them over the hump.

The latter list might be uber small though.

Then lets not forget marketing. A struggling team can use his name to sell tickets.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I think most Knicks fans want to trade him just because it's the best move for us but he's not going anywhere. It would be too easy for him to block a trade to anywhere he doesn't want to go with the NTC and then there's the issue of actually pulling off the trade. What do we get? How does the money match up? Although I kinda was wondering this in the Knicks thread, with the cap going up and not having to match salaries under the cap, maybe something can be done easier with people having so much money.

If we're going to move him, this summer would be the time to do it. We finally have our 1st next year and without Melo will definitely contend for the top pick lol. I still can't ****ing believe how badly we ****ed ourselves out of KAT by winning 2 meaningless games at the end of the season but such is life as a Knicks fan, Porzingis is a great piece to have moving forward.

[Vni]

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Then lets not forget marketing. A struggling team can use his name to sell tickets.

Melo would have to agree to the deal and he's not agreeing to that.

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Melo would have to agree to the deal and he's not agreeing to that.

Of course thats why i said first option is a brink contendor or one who needs his skills to make it over. Clippers couldve been in position if Doc wasn't so dumb.....something like that

[Vni]

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Of course thats why i said first option is a brink contendor or one who needs his skills to make it over. Clippers couldve been in position if Doc wasn't so dumb.....something like that

Celtics, Detroit... He could help them. Celtics's got some picks that's why I thought it could work.

[redsox4evur]

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Celtics, Detroit... He could help them. Celtics's got some picks that's why I thought it could work.

Nope, nope, nope. Why would the Celtics help the Knicks out and why would Melo go to Boston?

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Remember only a team in contention would bother with his salary. BOSTON is up and coming...they won't do that...it would have to be like when they got ray and kg at the same time to add to pierce type of deal to bother.

[King_B_Mack]

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Doubt it would have made a big difference.

I think there would have been pretty significant change in the NBA based on Phil's decision.

To start if he pulls out of the situation and let's Melo go to Chicago in a sign and trade like he wanted. The Knicks likely get back either a Jimmy Butler, Niko Mirotic combination possibly a Snell or Dunleavy as well or a Taj Gibson, Niko, McDermott combo along with some picks in both scenarios.

If Melo goes to Chicago and they have success Bulls management likely doesn't fire Thibs meaning no Thibs for Minnesota this coming year.

If you're Phil and you've traded Melo you've made a firm decision on the direction of the team for the future. With the pieces gained in the trade, do you still get rid of Shumpert and JR when you ultimately did? Do you move them in that same offseason? What does it do to the east with no Shump and Smith on the Cavs?

Do the Bulls still make a move to get Pau Gasol upon landing Melo? If not does he go to the Spurs that offseason like rumored? How does that affect LaMarcus Aldridge the following year when deciding to leave Portland.

I think there's a lot of interesting scenarios that could have played out with Phil making a different decision

[wwharton]

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True but I think they'd more sad/upset rather than mad. That city is STARVING for a title, so it would definitely lessen the blow by miles.

I just can't see it happening though, especially after penning that letter coming back home. If he did leave, I'd feel he'd pen another letter but what reasons would he have to leave? "I promised a title to Cleveland, I delivered, so now I'm gonna go win for another city?" Go back to Miami to win the rest of the "not 5, not 6, not 7"? Would be interesting for sure but I think it's just Stephen Grade A bull****.

I remember when Red Sox fans were starving for a title... they got it and quickly switched to expecting to be in the hunt every year. A title would make the people of Cleveland ecstatic but not satisfied.

But like you, I don't see him leaving either.

[Vni]

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I think there would have been pretty significant change in the NBA based on Phil's decision.

To start if he pulls out of the situation and let's Melo go to Chicago in a sign and trade like he wanted. The Knicks likely get back either a Jimmy Butler, Niko Mirotic combination possibly a Snell or Dunleavy as well or a Taj Gibson, Niko, McDermott combo along with some picks in both scenarios.

If Melo goes to Chicago and they have success Bulls management likely doesn't fire Thibs meaning no Thibs for Minnesota this coming year.

If you're Phil and you've traded Melo you've made a firm decision on the direction of the team for the future. With the pieces gained in the trade, do you still get rid of Shumpert and JR when you ultimately did? Do you move them in that same offseason? What does it do to the east with no Shump and Smith on the Cavs?

Do the Bulls still make a move to get Pau Gasol upon landing Melo? If not does he go to the Spurs that offseason like rumored? How does that affect LaMarcus Aldridge the following year when deciding to leave Portland.

I think there's a lot of interesting scenarios that could have played out with Phil making a different decision

I thought you meant strictly for chicago. With Rose's injurys I'am not sure he would've made a huge difference in terms of the success they could've had.