The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

[strawberryshortcake]

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Why even compare those 2 situations though? Delly was going for the ball, and had incidental contact. Green retaliated after LBJ walked over, we know the league always gets the 2nd guy, even if the 1st guy was just as guilty.

League should do a whole ref 101 course, because illegal picks, travels, and just plain consistency has been thrown out the window.

Just a comment regarding "the league always gets the 2nd guy, even if the 1st guy was just as guilty." Doesn't that usually apply to in-game violations with no replay review because the referees could not see the instigator? Isn't this particular situation different though because the league actually was able to sit down to review the entire footage from beginning to end?

[The 24th Letter]

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Slamming Beasley
Adam's and James crotch shots

What was the other flagrant Draymond got? I can't think of what it was atm

[zasbury25]

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Slamming Beasley
Adam's and James crotch shots

What was the other flagrant Draymond got? I can't think of what it was atm

The Adams one was deemed a Flagrant 2, which is 2 Flagrant points...total of 3 Flagrant fouls worth 4 Flagrant points, which triggered his suspension.

[VDusen04]

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Just a comment regarding "the league always gets the 2nd guy, even if the 1st guy was just as guilty." Doesn't that usually apply to in-game violations with no replay review because the referees could not see the instigator? Isn't this particular situation different though because the league actually was able to sit down to review the entire footage from beginning to end?

Yes, and that's why LeBron James was assessed a technical foul in hindsight.

[ojandpizza]

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I don't even care about their reasoning.

It's mixed up either way... You let the Iggy gonads shots go but not this trash?

As King just said our biggest problem is inconsistency. The game itself was so bad the refs lost complete control for a moment, and now this.

I know their position was impossible but he seems to have done this because of some pressure to do something.

Well if you don't care about any reasoning then how can you clamor for consistency?

You want every call to be the same, but don't care to know the reasoning behind the calls. That doesn't make any sense. It's clear as day why these two plays in particular were not called the same, yet you want to ignore it. With that type of mentality towards the issue there will never be a right or wrong. Even if the refs were to consistently get every single call correct next season, you still wouldn't notice because you choose to ignore reason.

[brahmagoul]

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I don't even care about their reasoning.

It's mixed up either way... You let the Iggy gonads shots go but not this trash?

As King just said our biggest problem is inconsistency. The game itself was so bad the refs lost complete control for a moment, and now this.

I know their position was impossible but he seems to have done this because of some pressure to do something.

Going for a different kind of ball.

[Scofield]

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I'm with Charles Barkley on this one. If you try to step over somebody like that your nuts are fair game.

[ojandpizza]

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Anyway, I see this ending tonight in 5. Any of you see the Cavs pushing this to 6 or 7?


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[areobee401]

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If it ends to tonight, I'm cool with that. I would like to see GSW win the title at home this time around. Always better to see a team win it all in front of their own fans. So if the Cavs find a way to tonight, let's get to a game 7 so GSW have a chance to win at home, and the Cavs a chance to bring a title home to Cleveland(Sorry, blew your chance to celebrate with your home crowd).

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Well if you don't care about any reasoning then how can you clamor for consistency?

You want every call to be the same, but don't care to know the reasoning behind the calls. That doesn't make any sense. It's clear as day why these two plays in particular were not called the same, yet you want to ignore it. With that type of mentality towards the issue there will never be a right or wrong. Even if the refs were to consistently get every single call correct next season, you still wouldn't notice because you choose to ignore reason.

In this case I don't because the reasoning doesn't matter one way or the other. Like I and King both said, they'll get blamed for conspiracy theories either way, and part of the reason for that is how they pick and choose throughout the season.

So yeah, don't be all extra literal about everything all of the time...




back to the series, LeBron's mental state must've been fragile in game 4 losing at home, the way broussard said he was complaining about the name calling. Dude was just soft that night.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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I'm ready for it to be over. I don't think the Cavs have any real chance to win this thing so the sooner we can get to our summer, the better.

[Vni]

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I'am pretty much done with this series too. GS are gonna win it, wether it is tonight or the next game. I'am not really interested in extending it one more game.

I think GS are gonna finish the job tonight. I hope Curry and Klay are gonna make it splash.

[23]

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..and hopefully someone else comes out of the east next year although that's much more than a long shot.

[redsox4evur]

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..and hopefully someone else comes out of the east next year although that's much more than a long shot.

Only way that's happening is if KD comes to the East or Lebron tears his ACL. Neither of which are likely to happen.


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[ehh]

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I think GSW is going to clinch tonight in a blowout, they're fired up after this Draymond decision. Don't see CLE being able to bring the focus/intensity defensively that's required for the entire game.

It's wild, never seen the best player in the game get publicly disrespected like this from the opposition before. Even Quiet Klay out is out here throwing shade. (which is hilarious given his recent whining about the Mozgov screen)