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  • Vni
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2011
    • 14833

    #3436
    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by 23
    Lakers signed KCP 1 year 18 Mil
    I was so hoping that would happen.

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    • Boltman
      L.A. to S.D. to HI
      • Mar 2004
      • 18283

      #3437
      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by Caveman24
      I thought there was a zero chance we would get KCP. I'm surprised a player that young didn't take the longer years from the Nets. He's essentially betting on himself the way Waiters did and trying to create his own market.

      Hypothetically, if he comes in and plays good defdnse(all his analytics say he's a bad defender) & hit the three at a high level. This time next year he might be a 100 million type of guy.
      Didn't realize that his analytics say he's a poor defender. Everything I've been reading is that he's a two way player (as in he actually plays pretty good D). I'll admit I haven't followed his games, although of course I've seen him play quite a few times.



      Bottom line is that he turned down that 5yr/80M from Detroit and now he's a Laker for one year. Funny how things work out (or don't heh).

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      • Vni
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2011
        • 14833

        #3438
        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by Black Bruce Wayne
        I don't understand this at all. I'm sure someone will try to defend it. I guess it's only one year but I don't see how this makes sense
        what dont you understand exactly ? Seems pretty straight forward.

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        • Vni
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #3439
          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by Black Bruce Wayne
          I thought that was Jordan Clarkson?
          Clarkson isnt starter material. They might even try to move him with deng or something like that.

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #3440
            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

            It's hard to really take this as a sign James is coming when every writer worth anything called this days ago.

            It was the most logical next signing in free agency. I wonder if the Lakers even cared about KCP until it became so obvious they could have him for one year.

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            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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            • Boltman
              L.A. to S.D. to HI
              • Mar 2004
              • 18283

              #3441
              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by CMH
              It's hard to really take this as a sign James is coming when every writer worth anything called this days ago.

              It was the most logical next signing in free agency. I wonder if the Lakers even cared about KCP until it became so obvious they could have him for one year.

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              I've seen the links to LBJ because of the agency connection but that's just people hyping up stories that aren't really there. I can care less about that supposed connection.

              It was the next logical signing, no arguments from anyone there. Who cares if the Lakers even cared about KCP any farther back than the last 48 hrs honestly. But I'm not sure the point being made (or you're trying to make) so maybe I'm misunderstanding the nature of your comment.

              But I like the signing for sure and I'm glad it happened, if only for one season even.

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #3442
                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                He's an ok defender with the tools and "potential" to become an elite defender(Only 23 so there's still room for growth on that end)but a "meh" shooter.

                Can't go wrong with having him on a 1 year deal. Would've loved to have him on a 3 year deal to have him and Fake D'Angelo form our backcourt for the next few years.


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                • Vni
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 14833

                  #3443
                  Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                  You guys caught the pg13 quote saying him wanting to come to the lakers was overstated, that we re too young of a team and if he came here he woudnt be the first domino to fall anyway. Makes sense.

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                  • wco81
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3305

                    #3444
                    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by Vni
                    You guys caught the pg13 quote saying him wanting to come to the lakers was overstated, that we re too young of a team and if he came here he woudnt be the first domino to fall anyway. Makes sense.
                    But if Lebron signs, or Westbrook, no doubt George would come along.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47579

                      #3445
                      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by Boltman
                      I thought the Nets might go after KCP but I guess they were out when they traded for Carroll. Or did I assess that wrong?
                      I think the Carroll deal hinged on Wizards matching Otto. Had he signed with Nets, they wouldn't add Carroll.

                      Raptors having to attach the pick with Carroll to get rid of him, hopefully doing so actually makes the pick worse. It's already gonna be in the 20s,but being closer to 30 than 20 would be even better.

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                      • Boltman
                        L.A. to S.D. to HI
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 18283

                        #3446
                        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                        So in the end, thanks Wizards.

                        JJ going to Philly also helped I'm sure.

                        Lots of things had to go right (or wrong heh) for this one year deal to transpire.

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #3447
                          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                          Nets didn't make an offer and weren't planning to from what I read at ND. Don't even know if he actually met with them either.

                          So basically the offer sheet the Wizards matched played zero role from the Nets' standing. He still ****ed up turning that offer down from the Pistons.


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                          • The Chef
                            Moderator
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 13684

                            #3448
                            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                            Don't lump me in with that crowd. I don't have and didn't have any problem with PG leaving Indy. I didn't even object to the situation after he got moved to OKC. It is what it is. It's a business and he doesn't owe the team anything more than what he gave them in his career already. I'm in a city with a team that does players dirty in favor of their idiotic front office all the time so I don't have much sympathy for teams. However Paul opening his mouth now after the trade has gone down talking about he wanted them to get something and then proceeding to NOW try to pump the brakes on the LA talk is crap. We don't need to sit here and try to play the semantics game on whether he said he was going to help them get a steak or a ham sandwich. He's not bringing that up to say it that way come on now.


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                            Couldn't agree more. What makes this all ridiculous is the entire period between when the LA speculation came out and the moment he was traded George didn't say a word, didn't try and pump the brakes on it at all. He then gets traded to OKC and suddenly he says it was all overstated and acts as if he has marginal interest in LA and only if they add pieces first. Where was this statement when Indiana was desperately trying to get some value for him on the market? Yet you turn around after the trade, in the same breath, and claim you were trying to help Indiana get some value for you which is the most ridiculous idiotic statement he said as were that the case he would have pumped the breaks on the LA garbage weeks ago. To top it off it's not as if LA had championship pieces on the roster when the news of his desire to play in LA came out anyways so citing that makes him appear full of ****.

                            Having said all that this could be nothing more then his agents realizing that the whole LA situation being a constant distraction during the season isn't helpful in the least and George is on a better team now and doesn't want the season to go down the toilet because of outside distractions such as this.
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                            • CMH
                              Making you famous
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #3449
                              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by Boltman
                              I've seen the links to LBJ because of the agency connection but that's just people hyping up stories that aren't really there. I can care less about that supposed connection.

                              It was the next logical signing, no arguments from anyone there. Who cares if the Lakers even cared about KCP any farther back than the last 48 hrs honestly. But I'm not sure the point being made (or you're trying to make) so maybe I'm misunderstanding the nature of your comment.

                              But I like the signing for sure and I'm glad it happened, if only for one season even.
                              My point about the Lakers not caring about him is essentially just that. He wasn't a target. If there was an agency connection, they would have cared from day one to make the agent happy so James would come.

                              Instead, they only started carng when it became obvious they could have him on a one year deal. They fill a hole in their lineup and it's on a one year trial. At worse, he's trade bait for a playoff team needing a quick 3 month fix because of an injury. At best, he does amazingly well and he loves LA enough to give the edge in contract negotiations.

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                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #3450
                                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by CMH
                                It's hard to really take this as a sign James is coming when every writer worth anything called this days ago.

                                It was the most logical next signing in free agency. I wonder if the Lakers even cared about KCP until it became so obvious they could have him for one year.

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                                Of course

                                The rumor talking heads is what i was referring to.

                                Not that there is any truth to it, they just vulture around anything they can.

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