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  • mvb34
    S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
    • Jul 2002
    • 8138

    #46
    Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

    Originally posted by SportsmanTO
    I heard about the trade a while ago apparently it's


    to Portland: Carter, Rose and 2 unamed players

    to Toronto: SAR, Vladimir Stepania, Derek Anderson and MAYBE NVE

    This definately gives Toronto a lot more cap room and it'll get rid of the sour baby Carter. I'm sure Reef would re-sign with TO if we have a half decent season and i'm sure he'll get along well with the Muslim community in Toronto. The Raptors are going to build this team from the ground up with the unselfish uptempo style that coach Mitchell has brought to the team.

    This deal may hurt in the short term but it'll be looked upon as a key deal in a few yrs.
    With this move would Morris Peterson start with Toronto??
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    • mvb34
      S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
      • Jul 2002
      • 8138

      #47
      Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

      Originally posted by SportsmanTO
      I heard about the trade a while ago apparently it's


      to Portland: Carter, Rose and 2 unamed players

      to Toronto: SAR, Vladimir Stepania, Derek Anderson and MAYBE NVE

      This definately gives Toronto a lot more cap room and it'll get rid of the sour baby Carter. I'm sure Reef would re-sign with TO if we have a half decent season and i'm sure he'll get along well with the Muslim community in Toronto. The Raptors are going to build this team from the ground up with the unselfish uptempo style that coach Mitchell has brought to the team.

      This deal may hurt in the short term but it'll be looked upon as a key deal in a few yrs.
      With this move would Morris Peterson start with Toronto??
      http://www.twitch.tv/mikecharles34

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      • Yosemite Dan

        #48
        Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

        Sorry to disagree guys but living in Toronto you don't realize how bad VC has become. He has basically become an fadeaway 3 point shooter who is injury prone and is probably the worst defender among starters. He's lazy and refuses to attack the basket. VC is still being judged on the slam dunk contest 4 years ago. He is not the same player There is no part of his game that is above average. At least Allen Houston can shoot if nothing else. If SAR is past his prime at least the Raps can choose to let him go at season's end.

        VC was shopped all summer and no teams wanted any part of him. He is easily the most overrated player in the NBA. Attendance is down in Toronto and VC is booed on his home court by some. He is not highly thought of by most Raptor fans especially after his trade demand.

        Toronto has realized that Bosh is thier future and they will build the team around him. Keeping Carter and Rose will only have a negative influence on Bosh. Toronto proposed the trade and are desperate to unload them both.

        The trade hinges on Portland accepting the deal. Apparently Toronto will only trade Carter if it includes Rose. That's the enticement. They are that desperate to get rid of both. If Portland accepts this deal, they will regret it. These 2 guys are coach killers. The Blazer scouting dep't are not doing their job on this one. There is no upside for them to do this. That's why I find it hard to beleive Portland would be this stupid.

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        • Yosemite Dan

          #49
          Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

          Sorry to disagree guys but living in Toronto you don't realize how bad VC has become. He has basically become an fadeaway 3 point shooter who is injury prone and is probably the worst defender among starters. He's lazy and refuses to attack the basket. VC is still being judged on the slam dunk contest 4 years ago. He is not the same player There is no part of his game that is above average. At least Allen Houston can shoot if nothing else. If SAR is past his prime at least the Raps can choose to let him go at season's end.

          VC was shopped all summer and no teams wanted any part of him. He is easily the most overrated player in the NBA. Attendance is down in Toronto and VC is booed on his home court by some. He is not highly thought of by most Raptor fans especially after his trade demand.

          Toronto has realized that Bosh is thier future and they will build the team around him. Keeping Carter and Rose will only have a negative influence on Bosh. Toronto proposed the trade and are desperate to unload them both.

          The trade hinges on Portland accepting the deal. Apparently Toronto will only trade Carter if it includes Rose. That's the enticement. They are that desperate to get rid of both. If Portland accepts this deal, they will regret it. These 2 guys are coach killers. The Blazer scouting dep't are not doing their job on this one. There is no upside for them to do this. That's why I find it hard to beleive Portland would be this stupid.

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          • nkhera1
            All Star
            • Oct 2003
            • 5913

            #50
            Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

            isn't shareef a 4 though. they already have chris bosh there, and i heard shareef doesn't really like playing the 3.
            Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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            • nkhera1
              All Star
              • Oct 2003
              • 5913

              #51
              Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

              isn't shareef a 4 though. they already have chris bosh there, and i heard shareef doesn't really like playing the 3.
              Just wait till Arsenal moves into Emirates Stadium.

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              • Yosemite Dan

                #52
                Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

                Originally posted by mvb34
                With this move would Morris Peterson start with Toronto??
                That would make the most sense, Peterson at SG and SAR at SF. Peterson has impressed me this year and is the Raps best defender thus far. He deserves to start although the Raps would miss his energy off the bench.

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                • Yosemite Dan

                  #53
                  Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

                  Originally posted by mvb34
                  With this move would Morris Peterson start with Toronto??
                  That would make the most sense, Peterson at SG and SAR at SF. Peterson has impressed me this year and is the Raps best defender thus far. He deserves to start although the Raps would miss his energy off the bench.

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                  • Yosemite Dan

                    #54
                    Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

                    Originally posted by nkhera1
                    isn't shareef a 4 though. they already have chris bosh there, and i heard shareef doesn't really like playing the 3.
                    Apparently in the summer SAR wanted to be traded to the Nets and was willing to move to SF to do it so it shouldn't be a concern. He would still be an improvement over Rose no matter how you slice it.
                    Last edited by Guest; 11-18-2004, 09:21 PM.

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                    • Yosemite Dan

                      #55
                      Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

                      Originally posted by nkhera1
                      isn't shareef a 4 though. they already have chris bosh there, and i heard shareef doesn't really like playing the 3.
                      Apparently in the summer SAR wanted to be traded to the Nets and was willing to move to SF to do it so it shouldn't be a concern. He would still be an improvement over Rose no matter how you slice it.

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                      • Taur3asi3
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 3727

                        #56
                        Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

                        No he wont be an improvement over Rose because 'Reef cant play the 3 he's a tweener thats too big and not good enough to be a 3 and hes too small to be a good 4 hes a not quite garbage but i would avoid him like the plague if i had a team. Theres a reason his nickname is SAR(s)
                        As Shaquille O'Neal left the Suns practice court, he yelled out, "Alvin's the coach. We must be the Clippers. And I must be Olowokandi. Nooooo!"

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                        • Taur3asi3
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 3727

                          #57
                          Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

                          No he wont be an improvement over Rose because 'Reef cant play the 3 he's a tweener thats too big and not good enough to be a 3 and hes too small to be a good 4 hes a not quite garbage but i would avoid him like the plague if i had a team. Theres a reason his nickname is SAR(s)
                          As Shaquille O'Neal left the Suns practice court, he yelled out, "Alvin's the coach. We must be the Clippers. And I must be Olowokandi. Nooooo!"

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                          • SPTO
                            binging
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 68046

                            #58
                            Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

                            SAR may be close to garbage but he gives the Raps incredible cap space for the coming years. It's a win-win situation for TO. If SAR plays well enough then we'll make a run for him, if not we can just let him go.

                            Carter and Rose would be great Jailblazers and Portland would regret making the trade if it goes down.
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                            "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                            • SPTO
                              binging
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #59
                              Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

                              SAR may be close to garbage but he gives the Raps incredible cap space for the coming years. It's a win-win situation for TO. If SAR plays well enough then we'll make a run for him, if not we can just let him go.

                              Carter and Rose would be great Jailblazers and Portland would regret making the trade if it goes down.
                              Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                              "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                              • Dynasty4Kobe
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 2769

                                #60
                                Re: Carter is going to Portland for Abdur-Rahim?

                                If Carter goes West, things can get very interesting when the All-Star votes are announced. Either Kobe, T-Mac, KG, or Duncan will get left off of the Starting 5, and those are arguably 4 of the Top 5-8 players of the league.

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