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  • CMH
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    • Oct 2002
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    #2041
    Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
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    • cima
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2004
      • 13478

      #2042
      Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

      I don't believe for a second that Cousins got no other offers. That's some smokescreen BS

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      • RedSceptile
        MVP
        • Jun 2011
        • 3680

        #2043
        Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

        Originally posted by cima
        I don't believe for a second that Cousins got no other offers. That's some smokescreen BS
        If you read the Zach Lowe article, I find most of the stuff highly plausible. It's an open secret that certain players have a rep around the league and despite their level of talent most teams would rather not have them on the roster (case in point, Dwight Howard). Cousins was apparently trying to at worst get an Ariza level 1 year contract (the same type JJ Reddick has taken in back to back seasons). It isn't that farfetched to think he was getting lowballed by teams or outright ignored. So he calls GS who basically go "yeah sure DeMarcus that sounds great, also you can rehab and get yourself as close to 100% as possible".

        All of this is a fallout from the summer of 2016 and the cap spike with front offices handing out all these STUPID contracts and now not having the requisite cap space as well (I don't think I need to point at all the bad contracts in the league).

        Basically, front offices are dumb and everyone knows this.

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        • DieHardYankee26
          BING BONG
          • Feb 2008
          • 10178

          #2044
          Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

          Is it dumb to not sign a guy to a one year deal when he isn't even going to play half the year?

          Who had the space to sign him at a decent number and the talent to let him rehab for half the season?
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          • RedSceptile
            MVP
            • Jun 2011
            • 3680

            #2045
            Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

            Nevermind friendship ended with basketball.

            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WindhorstESPN</a> on Clint Capela: &quot;Last night, after his meeting with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rockets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rockets </a>, his agent was aggressively calling 10+ teams.&quot;</p>&mdash; Ben DuBose (@BenDuBose) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenDuBose/status/1013935524665491456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 3, 2018</a></blockquote> ******** async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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            • Ragnar53
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              • Mar 2014
              • 538

              #2046
              Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

              Originally posted by RedSceptile
              Nevermind friendship ended with basketball.
              .@WindhorstESPN on Clint Capela: "Last night, after his meeting with the #Rockets, his agent was aggressively calling 10+ teams."
              — Ben DuBose (@BenDuBose) July 3, 2018
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              Yikes.


              Welp. The cost of keeping Chris Paul. And undersized PG. With an injury history. Wrong side of 30. Also a known talent for alienating teammates with his abrasive personality. What was that deal again? 40 million a year? Word?


              Not saying on the court wise Paul had anything to do with Capela potentially leaving. Lack of cap space and how much they are willing to invest has everything to do with it though.


              Man. Ya'll might actually have to try and bring back Dwight at this point

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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
                Once in a Lifetime Memory
                • Dec 2006
                • 17294

                #2047
                Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

                Originally posted by RedSceptile
                Nevermind friendship ended with basketball.

                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WindhorstESPN</a> on Clint Capela: &quot;Last night, after his meeting with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rockets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rockets </a>, his agent was aggressively calling 10+ teams.&quot;</p>&mdash; Ben DuBose (@BenDuBose) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenDuBose/status/1013935524665491456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 3, 2018</a></blockquote> ******** async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                Still seems highly likely that he returns; just won't be on the kind of contract that he wanted.
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                • RedSceptile
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                  • Jun 2011
                  • 3680

                  #2048
                  Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                  Still seems highly likely that he returns; just won't be on the kind of contract that he wanted.
                  Yeah as long as he doesn't sign a QO I'm good. Agent is calling around trying to get teams to offer the max but the market for Centers is low coupled with the cap space of most teams right now means we probably are gonna retain him for less years and less money (3 instead of 4 with maybe a player option now).

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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47568

                    #2049
                    Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

                    Originally posted by Ragnar53
                    Yikes.


                    Welp. The cost of keeping Chris Paul. And undersized PG. With an injury history. Wrong side of 30. Also a known talent for alienating teammates with his abrasive personality. What was that deal again? 40 million a year? Word?


                    Not saying on the court wise Paul had anything to do with Capela potentially leaving. Lack of cap space and how much they are willing to invest has everything to do with it though.


                    Man. Ya'll might actually have to try and bring back Dwight at this point
                    At this point in CP3 career.. I thought he would take less money to improve the team around him. I thought he'd know better here by now.

                    With Green taking less money and bring Durant. You would think more players think like this. But agents are probably the one's pushing for this.
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                    • ojandpizza
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                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #2050
                      Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

                      Originally posted by jeebs9
                      At this point in CP3 career.. I thought he would take less money to improve the team around him. I thought he'd know better here by now.

                      With Green taking less money and bring Durant. You would think more players think like this. But agents are probably the one's pushing for this.
                      You could say the same about LeBron too though. I get it, these guys have earned the right to make that kind of money, but we saw how that worked out when all of the Lakers cap was going to Kobe a few years back.

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                      • georgiafan
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 11097

                        #2051
                        Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

                        Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                        Is it dumb to not sign a guy to a one year deal when he isn't even going to play half the year?

                        Who had the space to sign him at a decent number and the talent to let him rehab for half the season?
                        The 76ers have about 14 million in cap space and could have let him develop slowly. The Pacers are another team with cap space that and a playoff team.
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                        • Checmate101
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                          • Mar 2006
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                          #2052
                          Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

                          Wiz looking at Jeff Green...

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                          • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 17294

                            #2053
                            Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

                            Originally posted by Checmate101
                            Wiz looking at Jeff Green...

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                            • Ragnar53
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                              • Mar 2014
                              • 538

                              #2054
                              Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by georgiafan
                              The 76ers have about 14 million in cap space and could have let him develop slowly. The Pacers are another team with cap space that and a playoff team.

                              Sixers don't want Cousins.


                              Pacers definitely don't want Cousins. They just let Lance walk when they didn't have to. He was on a team deal making less than 3 million and told him to kick rocks.


                              You think they were about to pay Cousins?

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                              • King_B_Mack
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                                • Jan 2009
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                                #2055
                                Re: 2018 Off-Season Thread

                                I'd be shocked if Capela left the Rockets.

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