2018-19 Transaction Thread

[The 24th Letter]

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Oh damn, I thought this was Josh Richardson for a minute and freaked out. Whew.

Same.

If Miami took maybe JJ and some bench fodder for Richardson, someone would have needed to go check on Riley's mental state...

[Majingir]

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Presumably just lowering their luxury tax bill at the cost of a hopefully late and future 2nd round pick.

Still seems abit random assuming that was why they did it. I doubt it's done for a reason other than more moves on the way. How much do they really save by unloading a 1.5M contract. And I thought Masai was against dealing anything beyond this year, not knowing what the future of the team might be.

They now have 13 guys on roster and 2 on 2 way deals. I've heard Wes Matthews could be a buyout target. But perhaps they have something else in mind?

[ojandpizza]

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You're thinking Davis, it could be Kawhi and Durant or Kawhi Durant and a Davis rental...

They have so many more options. Point is they're a huge threat no matter what, now and later

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Yes I was thinking Davis because someone mentioned the Clippers trading for Davis.. I was just saying they don't have the pieces to do that so if the Clippers want Davis it'll have to be singing him after he spends a rental year elsewhere.

Singing Kawhi, KD, Klay, whoever is definitely an option.

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Yes I was thinking Davis because someone mentioned the Clippers trading for Davis.. I was just saying they don't have the pieces to do that so if the Clippers want Davis it'll have to be singing him after he spends a rental year elsewhere.



Singing Kawhi, KD, Klay, whoever is definitely an option.

They have options and they have Jerry West. That's all they need IF that's what they wanted.

Just because Demps put the voodoo on Magic doesn't mean he won't deal with another team more leniently

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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Still seems abit random assuming that was why they did it. I doubt it's done for a reason other than more moves on the way. How much do they really save by unloading a 1.5M contract. And I thought Masai was against dealing anything beyond this year, not knowing what the future of the team might be.

They now have 13 guys on roster and 2 on 2 way deals. I've heard Wes Matthews could be a buyout target. But perhaps they have something else in mind?

I think it saves them roughly $4-5 million for a player that was giving them zero minutes and a pick that's roughly worthless at the moment (maybe the Raptors fall apart and that pick becomes valuable as we get closer to 2022, but a second round pick four years from now that belongs to a contending team is basically as unvaluable an asset as you'll find without being a negative asset.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I wonder what the status of the Gasol trade is..

I need at least one "we're trying" move on Kemba's behalf before I renew my season tickets next year MJ....

Not sure if you saw it, but Kevin O'Connor was reporting this morning that the deal is Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and a protected first for Gasol and that the two teams are just fighting over the level of protection on that pick.

[ojandpizza]

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It's hilarious to me that people, and maybe even the Pelicans, believe that landing a top 5 pick which has a 50/50 chance of being a bust and not even staying in the league is more valuable than Lonzo (2nd pick) Ingram (2nd pick)and Kuzma (all rookie team) are all proven youth than have ruled out the possibility of being a bust...

Adding to this, just players drafted within the past 8 years...

Beasley 2nd, OJ Mayo 3rd, Joe Alexander 8th, DJ Augustine 9th, Hasheem Thabeet 2nd, Ricky Rubio 5, johnny Flynn 6, Jordan Hill 8, Evan Turner 2, Wes Johnson 4, Ekpe Udoh 6, Aminu 8, Derick Williams 2, Enes Kanter 3, Tristan Thompson 4, Jan Vesely 6, Biyombo 7, Brandon Knight 8, Jimmer 10, MKG 2, Waiters 4, Thomas Robinson 5, T Ross 8, A Rivers 10, A Bennett 1, Cody Zeller 4, Alex Len 5, N Noel 6, Ben McLemore 7, KCP 8, Trey Burke 9, A Wiggins 1, Jabari 2, Exum 5, Stauskas 8, Vonleh 9, E Payton 10, Okafor 3, Hezonja 5, Mudiay 7, Kaminsky 9, Bender 4, Dunn 5, Chriss 8, Poeltl 9, Thon Maker 10, Fultz 1, Josh Jackson 4, J Isaac 6, Frank Ntilikina 8...

Landing a top 10 pick doens't guarantee **** lol.. Even if they received 3 number 1 overalls, who's to say that's not a trio comparable to Bennett, Wiggins, Fultz...

[Themayorofawsometown]

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Clippers going all-out for Leonard and Davis in my opinion... that Miamo pick is better than anything LAL can offer.

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We sure ain't tanking that year so I don't believe that

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[ojandpizza]

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Not sure if you saw it, but Kevin O'Connor was reporting this morning that the deal is Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and a protected first for Gasol and that the two teams are just fighting over the level of protection on that pick.

And I guess Memphis is just hoping those guys decline their player options?

[Themayorofawsometown]

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Oh damn, I thought this was Josh Richardson for a minute and freaked out. Whew.

I read the original post correctly and then this post damn near gave me a heart attack

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[ehh]

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It's hilarious to me that people, and maybe even the Pelicans, believe that landing a top 5 pick which has a 50/50 chance of being a bust and not even staying in the league is more valuable than Lonzo (2nd pick) Ingram (2nd pick)and Kuzma (all rookie team) are all proven youth than have ruled out the possibility of being a bust...

The Lakers guys aren't busts but I don't think any of them have high ceilings. IMO you're limiting your future with a trio of young guys who I'd probably have minimal interest in extending after their rookie deal expires, pending on what they're attracting in the market. To me, they're typical "danger" guys where some desperate small market team with cap space will sign them to an offer sheet that shouldn't be matched but you have you enough emotional attachment that you make a dumb decision. If you're NOP, what are you doing when Ingram signs an offer sheet for $120M or more in two years? If I'm doing a full rebuild Ingram isn't on the right timeline and I want no part of giving that guy anything north of $100M.

I see your point though; it's easy to see both sides of the fence in this situation. The unknown has its appeal as does the known.

[The 24th Letter]

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Not sure if you saw it, but Kevin O'Connor was reporting this morning that the deal is Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and a protected first for Gasol and that the two teams are just fighting over the level of protection on that pick.

Nice...thanks.

I heard something similar last night but Monk was in there. Glad to see he's not apart of it.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Miami Heat sending Tyler Johnson to Phoenix. Not sure what for yet; possibly Ryan Anderson?

[bigeastbumrush]

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Adding to this, just players drafted within the past 8 years...

Beasley 2nd, OJ Mayo 3rd, Joe Alexander 8th, DJ Augustine 9th, Hasheem Thabeet 2nd, Ricky Rubio 5, johnny Flynn 6, Jordan Hill 8, Evan Turner 2, Wes Johnson 4, Ekpe Udoh 6, Aminu 8, Derick Williams 2, Enes Kanter 3, Tristan Thompson 4, Jan Vesely 6, Biyombo 7, Brandon Knight 8, Jimmer 10, MKG 2, Waiters 4, Thomas Robinson 5, T Ross 8, A Rivers 10, A Bennett 1, Cody Zeller 4, Alex Len 5, N Noel 6, Ben McLemore 7, KCP 8, Trey Burke 9, A Wiggins 1, Jabari 2, Exum 5, Stauskas 8, Vonleh 9, E Payton 10, Okafor 3, Hezonja 5, Mudiay 7, Kaminsky 9, Bender 4, Dunn 5, Chriss 8, Poeltl 9, Thon Maker 10, Fultz 1, Josh Jackson 4, J Isaac 6, Frank Ntilikina 8...

Landing a top 10 pick doens't guarantee **** lol.. Even if they received 3 number 1 overalls, who's to say that's not a trio comparable to Bennett, Wiggins, Fultz...

Somehow I feel you're contradicting yourself here because you can throw Lonzo and Ingram right into that list you typed and it would read the same.

Draft picks are capital plain and simple.

[jeremym480]

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It's hilarious to me that people, and maybe even the Pelicans, believe that landing a top 5 pick which has a 50/50 chance of being a bust and not even staying in the league is more valuable than Lonzo (2nd pick) Ingram (2nd pick)and Kuzma (all rookie team) are all proven youth than have ruled out the possibility of being a bust...

It's not just a top five pick, it's a top 5 pick +. I mean, the Lakers players could all end up being All-Stars but if New Orleans really thought that would happen, then the deal would have already been done.

Other reasons, draft picks are normally younger, and they're under control for longer, they possibly the want to be there, and they probably won't have a meddling father. Ingram only has one more full season before he's a RFA, Kuzma is turning 24 this summer, Ball don't even want to be in NOLA and even if he did they would have to deal with his wack-a-doo of a father. Their picks will likely be in the 20's so they aren't valuable. I wouldn't hate that deal but I'd also be in no rush to accept it either. Especially, when they can hold on to AD for the rest of the season and then LA's 19 1st will end up being much better (possibly even in the lottery).