2018-19 Transaction Thread

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Good for Rivers on finding a team after he was waived by Phoenix. I'm not sure he's the guy Houston wants, but whatever.

[ojandpizza]

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KG endorsing Davis to the Lakers, and apparently has talked to Davis 1 on 1 to discuss him moving on to play with another star and has told him "the time is now" and that basically he is wasting years.

Small piece of what he said here:

“He doesn’t have that. Great players need to be with other great players.

“He is still ‘the guy’ when LeBron is there. They are both ‘the guy.’ That’s why you bring your superpowers together.”

Garnett also revealed he gave the advice directly to Davis.

"I told Anthony Davis this to his face," Garnett added.

Also read that there is a trade kicker in Davis's contract that if NO waits to trade him in July the Pelicans will have to pay him that money, 15 percent I think. If traded before hand it is negotiable, meaning that Rich Paul could say something along the lines of "we will waive the bonus if you trade him to the Lakers" or wherever Davis wants to go.

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One wrinkle in any Davis deal is the 15 percent trade bonus in his contract. The Pelicans would be responsible for an extra $4.1 million payment to Davis if he's dealt in July. The trade bonus would be negligible if he's traded this season, but to date, the Pelicans are adamant they have no intention of moving him this campaign.


"There's no way they're paying that trade kicker," a Western Conference executive said. "None."

That's where Paul has a potential trump card in leverage, which is something like, "We'll only waive the bonus if you trade Davis to the Lakers."

That's assuming Davis doesn't want to join the Celtics. He might. And Boston can send up to approximately $5.6 million in cash to offset any issue the Pelicans might have. New Orleans can net roughly $1.5 million from a Boston deal with the kicker paid, but the Lakers can send $5.6 million with Davis waiving the bonus, yielding an extra $4.1 million to the Pelicans.

Continuing with the assumption that a Davis trade waits until July, Los Angeles would have the means to compensate Davis for waiving his trade bonus by renegotiating his salary. If so, the team could set aside $5.6 million in cap space for Davis for six months (which could be difficult to do through January), raising him to roughly $32.7 million for the 2019-20 campaign with an extension adding up to four additional years at $157 million.

Davis would actually benefit from the shorter deal, allowing him to hit free agency in 2022 when he'll be eligible for the top-tier maximum salary that could start near $46 million as a veteran with 10 years of NBA experience.

Timed correctly through the next six seasons, Davis can get within roughly $13 million of what he would earn with a supermax contract. By accepting his trade bonus with the Lakers, the team can renegotiate and extend his contract immediately, but he'd fall a bit shorter of the supermax (by about $25 million).

[ojandpizza]

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I know nothing can be done about agents and what players they represent, but IF the Lakers were to get AD in a trade (which I personally do not see happening) but if it did, what lengths do you think the league would go to in order to try and avoid another LeBron/Rich Paul type of duo? Technically not breaking any rules, but I could definitely see why other owners, GMs, agents, would be frustrated.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2018-19 Transaction Thread

What do you mean avoid another Lebron/Rich Paul type of duo?

What exactly have they done wrong that force the league to address anything?

[ojandpizza]

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What do you mean avoid another Lebron/Rich Paul type of duo?

What exactly have they done wrong that force the league to address anything?

Oh they've done nothing wrong, just seems as if the owners and GMs aren't fond of the type of leverage they have with them being so close and agent's basically being able to be "above" owners and GMs when it comes to forcing the hand of trades and movement. I'm not saying something should be done, but I wonder how many owners will push for there to be less involvement from that side to where they don't lose the power to the agents.. Especially when it's a player of LeBron's stature. I'm not sure there is anything that even could be done, like you said nobody has done anything wrong, no rules have been broken, but if they were to finagle there way into landing Anthony Davis this season because no one else had the inside leverage they do we are going to have a lot of pissed off owners. They are already chiming in now basically over nothing, imagine if they actually were to get him before anyone else had a chance.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Ahh gotcha, that makes sense.

From what I’ve read from Woj/Stein, it’s been mostly owners of Small Market Clubs that have been bothered by it.

Edit: Here’s what I was looking for on this issue. From ProBasketballTalk:

Small market GMs feel they are at a massive disadvantage on the free agent market, and they are more than happy to complain about it. That superstars in big markets can speak out and recruit publicly with impunity just makes it that much harder on the smaller markets, those GM say. They want LeBron and other players held to the standards that front office members are.

“If these are the rules, enforce them,” one Western Conference GM told ESPN. “If you want to push Anthony Davis in L.A., if you allow LeBron to interfere with teams, then just do it. Change the rules, and say, ‘It’s the wild, wild west and anything goes.'”

I’m like you, OJ in that I don’t think it’s a big deal or even an issue at all. But we know this league and the people that cover it love to create storylines because...[emoji1741]*[emoji3603]

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He just aint playing without help though.

[The 24th Letter]

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I'm sure well get a "quote" by the end of the day from LBJ saying he wants to join the Warriors to set up for tommrows game.

[CMH]

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All this and LeBron didn't even pursue AD. Man, this is the epitome of the media creating a story and allowing it to bubble into a bigger story they can cover.

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[lilteapot]

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NBA execs expecting Dallas to trade Dennis Smith Jr. I feel like Phoenix would be the best fit for him. That's a nice young core.

[ojandpizza]

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NBA execs expecting Dallas to trade Dennis Smith Jr. I feel like Phoenix would be the best fit for him. That's a nice young core.

I saw this and I wonder how true it is? Idk what they would get but it sounds like an awful move. Luka is not a point guard, and can’t guard NBA point guards. Letting him play that point forward role is helping him thrive right now and they want to mix things up? Maybe Dennis isn’t the best fit if they are going to put him off the ball more and more, but just ship him off now? They better hope they get something substantial in return. We don’t even know that he won’t end up the better player of the two, athletically the sky is the limit for him.


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[CMH]

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Why do I feel like the Knicks are going to be rumored to include Ntilikina in a move for Smith?

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[TheFinalEvent97]

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I saw this and I wonder how true it is? Idk what they would get but it sounds like an awful move. Luka is not a point guard, and can’t guard NBA point guards. Letting him play that point forward role is helping him thrive right now and they want to mix things up? Maybe Dennis isn’t the best fit if they are going to put him off the ball more and more, but just ship him off now? They better hope they get something substantial in return. We don’t even know that he won’t end up the better player of the two, athletically the sky is the limit for him.


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I remember seeing a bballbreakdown video about Doncic, one of the interesting points was the massive difference in point differential when Smith played next to Doncic compared to when Smith sat.

[ojandpizza]

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I remember seeing a bballbreakdown video about Doncic, one of the interesting points was the massive difference in point differential when Smith played next to Doncic compared to when Smith sat.

As in he did better when Smith sat or played? Or the team did better? Not sure which direction you're referring to.

I know the "eye test" is always lacking behind actual production, especially now that we have tracking stats, but I feel like Smith has actually done a good job of dialing back his game a bit and letting Luka be Luka. Which to me is a huge positive from a 21 year old kid to be able to do that and make the effort to co-exist.

I'm not saying don't trade him at all, but I definitely wouldn't take less for him now that I would have last year just because I have Luka. Less than half a season worth of games isn't enough to determine what type of ceiling these two can have together. And Smith individually still has so much room to grow. For all we know, in an equal situation, he could be giving us Fox-like production. He was the better of the two last year, and if not for Simmons being still technically a rookie would have been the first team guard.

[CMH]

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^as in Doncic plays better when Smith sits. The team overall plays better.

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