2018-19 Transaction Thread

[lilteapot]

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Excellent pickup, although he's 36 he's still really active and a good defender. I'm only worried that he's going to have trouble with gassing out since they're going to need him a lot and the perimeter defense is weak.

[jfsolo]

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Excellent pickup, although he's 36 he's still really active and a good defender. I'm only worried that he's going to have trouble with gassing out since they're going to need him a lot and the perimeter defense is weak.

It's crazy to say, but McGee is the better player now, so I feel like a 28-20 split in McGee's favor makes sense. When or if other teams go really small, that's when Kuz, or Bron, or Williams, and eventually Wagner, can play the 5.

[ojandpizza]

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I wonder how stuff like this just happens all of a sudden though, without speculation of tampering. I thought that he was a good get for them, and have mentioned that here a few times even in the offseason that he needed to be on their radar. But now all of a sudden a few games into the year he randomly gets a buyout nowhere close to the deadline and before the news can even break he’s already signing with the Lakers?

Like yeah it’s obvious they need a back up big and he’s a good fit, but we’re supposed to believe that 8 games in they just up and decided to give him a buyout? Seems like someone from the Lakers side would almost have to be talking so him, convincing him to ask for the buyout and sign with them.

Magic has already been given tampering fines before right?


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Most of the time media reports are way late, even the ones that's considered breaking news.

[TheFinalEvent97]

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The Suns are 1-7, dead last in the West, they might as well get their young players some more minutes.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I think it was known before the season that he would be a potential buyout candidate. The only surprise is that it happened 8 games into the season.

[CMH]

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Also agents talk to teams.

It's not against the rules for teams to talk to agents especially if the agent calls the team, says his client wants a buyout from Phoenix, and asks if they have a need.

For obvious reasons this stuff doesn't leak. It helps no one to leak it to the media.

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I also find it funny that the Rockets are about to bring Jeff Bzdelick out of retirement to help coach defense again.

[ojandpizza]

2018-19 Transaction Thread

Way too earlier for this but y’all know I like tinkering with the armchair GM hypotheticals. Who says no to this trade:

Brandon Ingram, Zubac, Bonga, 2nd round pick

Josh Richardson, Justice Winslow

Miami clears up some of their logjam of primarily SG type players with Richardson, Johnson, Wade, Waiters, Ellington, McGruder and end up with a true SF and the player who of this group has the most potential as a “go to” guy for their future.

Lakers get two players that are upgrades of their current perimeter defense, and Richardson who fits their need as a shooter as well as a break finisher, without effecting their youth movement and flexibility. Also gives them more depth to move KCP at the deadline if need be.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

2018-19 Transaction Thread

The Heat say no.

Why would they want that trash *** bum Ingram?

In all seriousness, if you’re Miami, why would you clear up this logjam by trading your best player at the position? Especially when you’re other options are Dion Waiters and old *** Wade? Makes no sense from the Heat perspective. Could probably get a better return for Richardson than that.

[ojandpizza]

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The Heat say no.

Why would they want that trash *** bum Ingram?

In all seriousness, if you’re Miami, why would you clear up this logjam by trading your best player at the position? Especially when you’re other options are Dion Waiters and old *** Wade? Makes no sense from the Heat perspective. Could probably get a better return for Richardson than that.

Depends, because they are locked into Tyler Johnson as he is basically untradeable with that contract, and Waiters isn't going to want to play behind anybody when he comes back either. I doubt they are in it for the long haul with Dragic, Whiteside, Wade is retiring, so moving forward with Ingram and Bam give them two guys to build with who are only 21 years old.

IDK if you could get a better player than Ingram, you could right now, but not one with the potential to be better. For example if they were to trade him for Jimmy Butler they get a "better return" but it's not really that much better than what they have and doesn't have the potential to grow. I mean even if you look at what Richardson was doing at 22 years old, Butler at 22 years old, Ingram is the better prospect by comparison.

But Miami could always wait and keep Richardson, or trade him off for 3-4 pieces if they need to start a rebuild. It just feels like Ingram is better suited to be "the guy" and Miami doesn't have that, and with the Lakers they don't need that.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Depends, because they are locked into Tyler Johnson as he is basically untradeable with that contract, and Waiters isn't going to want to play behind anybody when he comes back either. I doubt they are in it for the long haul with Dragic, Whiteside, Wade is retiring, so moving forward with Ingram and Bam give them two guys to build with who are only 21 years old.



IDK if you could get a better player than Ingram, you could right now, but not one with the potential to be better. For example if they were to trade him for Jimmy Butler they get a "better return" but it's not really that much better than what they have and doesn't have the potential to grow. I mean even if you look at what Richardson was doing at 22 years old, Butler at 22 years old, Ingram is the better prospect by comparison.



But Miami could always wait and keep Richardson, or trade him off for 3-4 pieces if they need to start a rebuild. It just feels like Ingram is better suited to be "the guy" and Miami doesn't have that, and with the Lakers they don't need that.

Oh now Ingram is better suited to be the guy? After 10 games? It was just a year ago when he was considered him to be trash? Lol just saying


There’s no such thing as an untradeable contract, Johnson was one of the guys “rumored” to be part of a package to send to Minnesota.

You have Richardson on a good team friendly deal who they just locked up and he’s been performing like one of the better 2-way guys at his position over the last year and a half.

And I wouldn’t even compare all 3 of them at 22 since expectations/situations were different among them. I just don’t see any real benefit for Miami to do that unless they want to go the full rebuild route(which they have yet to indicate), which would be weird because then you’d have to ask yourself is Ingram someone you can build around and right now, it’s TBD.



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[King_B_Mack]

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OJ you a trip man lol. Look at what they were doing at 22? Jimmy Butler and Josh Richardson were both rookies at 22 having just turned 22 in Sept just before their rookie seasons. Whereas Ingram just turned 22 in September in his 3rd season. Of course his "outlook" looks better having seen two years of him actually playing as opposed to seeing nothing at the NBA level of the other 2 at 22 because they were rookies and in Butler's case, buried on the bench of a championship team. If you want to look at something, try looking at their projections as future "go to guys" in year 3 for each one of them and then tell me where Ingram shakes out. I'll give you a hint, it's not 1 of 3.

[ojandpizza]

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OJ you a trip man lol. Look at what they were doing at 22? Jimmy Butler and Josh Richardson were both rookies at 22 having just turned 22 in Sept just before their rookie seasons..

Uhh exactly my point? He has a head start, why would I look at them all in year 3 when Ingram has 10 years left of improvement at this point instead of 7 or so. Age is the factor here, idk why I would take that out of the equation.

That's like saying look at a team who drafted a freshman vs a senior and compare how they look as rookies when you know the freshman still has more room to grow and was drafted for potential.

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[King_B_Mack]

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The point is he's no further ahead of them in his year 3 as they were in their year 3s and he has 2 years of NBA experience on them. You can't say to look at them all at 22 years old to say Ingram will project to be better than them and then disqualify the fact that they were literally starting their careers at that point so by that very definition they had room to improve at 22 years old as well. That's also not to speak to the fact that we have the tangible proof of what Jimmy's career ended up being as he developed, he's a legit top 10-15 player in the league. We have nothing to say that Ingram is going to reach that.