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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29806

    #46
    Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
    The point is he's no further ahead of them in his year 3 as they were in their year 3s and he has 2 years of NBA experience on them. You can't say to look at them all at 22 years old to say Ingram will project to be better than them and then disqualify the fact that they were literally starting their careers at that point so by that very definition they had room to improve at 22 years old as well. That's also not to speak to the fact that we have the tangible proof of what Jimmy's career ended up being as he developed, he's a legit top 10-15 player in the league. We have nothing to say that Ingram is going to reach that.
    Why can't you? That's literally the whole point in what I'm saying. He had a better year 2 at 20 years old than Jimmy did year 3 at 24 years old. You can easily factor in age and say he's ahead of them, that's the point of my argument. Nobody cares how two players look as rookies if one just turned 19 and one is 22. In terms of potential growth the young player has more room to grow, and a head start. Why would we just ignore that? IDK what you're trying to argue here.

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    • King_B_Mack
      All Star
      • Jan 2009
      • 24450

      #47
      Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

      Originally posted by ojandpizza
      Why can't you? That's literally the whole point in what I'm saying. He had a better year 2 at 20 years old than Jimmy did year 3 at 24 years old. You can easily factor in age and say he's ahead of them, that's the point of my argument. Nobody cares how two players look as rookies if one just turned 19 and one is 22. In terms of potential growth the young player has more room to grow, and a head start. Why would we just ignore that? IDK what you're trying to argue here.
      Yet you're still using skewered numbers though. Jimmy in his second year played in 82 games, started 20 of them and played 26 minutes a night on a championship contending team playing behind a guy who was a top 5-10 player at his position at the time compared to Ingram playing 59 games, starting all 59 of them at 33.5 minutes a night on a complete ****, rebuilding team with no one in front of him blocking him from playing time.

      I really can't see how you don't see the problem with what you're trying to argue. Ingram got a 2 year head start on NBA development compared to the two of them in question because they started their careers at 22. However in the same time frame of NBA development (3 years) they have grown as much or further than he has. We can't just look at where they're at at 22 years old because it's not an accurate representation of NBA development time.

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29806

        #48
        Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
        . Ingram got a 2 year head start on NBA development compared to the two of them in question because they started their careers at 22.
        Exactly...

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        • Vni
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #49
          Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

          What the lakers don't need right now is to make stupid trades 10 games into the season. I hope the LBJ signing doesn't turn out like that. Getting rid of Walton would be a huge mistake too. He's a good coach, I hope he stays here for a long time.

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          • cima
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2004
            • 13478

            #50
            Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

            Originally posted by Vni
            What the lakers don't need right now is to make stupid trades 10 games into the season. I hope the LBJ signing doesn't turn out like that. Getting rid of Walton would be a huge mistake too. He's a good coach, I hope he stays here for a long time.
            Chandler was the last move they'll make until the deadline I'd bet you, barring major injury.

            Chandler is exactly what they needed. Last night was an underrated win, the defense was better, the Twolves were just hitting ridiculous shots. They made 20 3s and still lost.

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            • 3304Life
              MVP
              • Sep 2016
              • 3002

              #51
              Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

              Cavs sign Andrew Harrison to a two way contract and the gradual convergence of the real life Cavs and my NBA 2K18 career continues.

              Here’s a hint: the Cavs on my 2K18 career sucked. I like Harrison though.

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              • lilteapot
                MVP
                • Aug 2013
                • 4550

                #52
                Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                Sources: Philadelphia's Jerryd Bayless has also been traded to Minnesota as part of Jimmy Butler deal. Covington/Saric/Bayless/2022 2nd for Butler and Patton. https://t.co/qSvFzjG5BU

                Maybe now Butler will take the season seriously and STFU.

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                • JazzMan
                  SOLDIER, First Class...
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 13547

                  #53
                  Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                  Butler to the Sixers... out of left field.

                  Thibs caught wind of Jimmy complaining about playing 40+ minutes a game and felt betrayed lmao

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                  • jfsolo
                    Live Action, please?
                    • May 2003
                    • 12965

                    #54
                    Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                    Not even a first for Minny, Philly made out well here.
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                    Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                    • areobee401
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 16771

                      #55
                      Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                      Pretty decent haul for Minnesota. Interested to see how Butler meshes with the guys in Philly. Gonna need to add a shooter or two after the trade.
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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28959

                        #56
                        Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                        After all this drama, that's the deal MIN accepts?
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                        • King_B_Mack
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #57
                          Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                          Wiggins couldn’t be happier.

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                          • JazzMan
                            SOLDIER, First Class...
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 13547

                            #58
                            Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                            Well reportedly after the Wolves lost to the Kings last night to go 0-5 on their road trip, Thibs finally concluded that the team couldn't win with Butler in a "dysfunctional environment"

                            Like.. it took you that long to come to that realization? I feel like anybody could see this coming a mile away.

                            Wolves need to move on from Thibadeau
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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 29806

                              #59
                              Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                              I’m kinda on the fence with this trade. For the Sixers they needed a guy like Jimmy who can score in the half court late in games because literally all they have is Embiid. But they also got worse losing shooters and depth when they lost Bells and Ilyasova, and now after this they may have hurt their depth and shooting even more.

                              For Minnesota they get a good return, Covington is a good type of player to replace Jimmy honestly. And they likely gain two starters. But is this better than some of the other rumors? The 4 first round picks? Just the trade value and flexibility you have years moving forward with 4 firsts would be massive.

                              They are talking now on NBA radio that they could move Fultz and open even another max spot. Thinking that this trade might be opening up another trade down the line.




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                              • 3304Life
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 3002

                                #60
                                Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                                Covington will do well in Minnesota and I’m surprised Saric got moved because he was one of the big pieces during the original process. Huge amount of faith shown in Fultz here and could see Simmons move up to the four for a prolonged stretch.

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