If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

[Vince]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

No they don't need Carmelo.Detroit plays team ball.Not saying Melo is selfish but Detroit plays more as a unit instead of relying on 1 player... 'sides Tayshaun has been great for them.He owned Kobe last year.

Second, unless Sheed starts playing the 3, or they don't resign Ben Wallace when his deal is up, Darko will not be a starter.

Sheed's deal is 5 years and I doubt he'd come off the bench anytime soon, and you'd think Wallace would be resigned as well.

[Vince]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

No they don't need Carmelo.Detroit plays team ball.Not saying Melo is selfish but Detroit plays more as a unit instead of relying on 1 player... 'sides Tayshaun has been great for them.He owned Kobe last year.

Second, unless Sheed starts playing the 3, or they don't resign Ben Wallace when his deal is up, Darko will not be a starter.

Sheed's deal is 5 years and I doubt he'd come off the bench anytime soon, and you'd think Wallace would be resigned as well.

[Nivek]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

That in itself speaks volumes. If you're a quality NBA player you would be on the court not cheerleading from the bench.

Good point...

[Nivek]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

That in itself speaks volumes. If you're a quality NBA player you would be on the court not cheerleading from the bench.

Good point...

[dieselboy]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

Yao Ming made a smooth transation.

As for the other players you brought up, none of them were picked as high as number 2 in the draft.

But a lot of times saying a player is a bust is in the eye of the beholder.

For example someone can argue Stro Swift is a bust for the number 2 pick while others might argue he's still young and could blossom into an elite player still.

If the Pistons have no plans to play him in the future (say the next 2/3 years) they're better off trading him to another team for draft picks then.

If I'm Darko I would be frustarted at the lack of mins. You learn a lot quicker by playing on the court than ncheerleading. Nothing beats hands on experience. Darko is bound to make rookie mistakes so it's better to get it out of his system now than later.

You know why high school and euros before him weren't picked high? Because there was a huge risk involved.

Look at how far down, Rashard Lewis, Kobe Bryant, Amare Stoudamire, etc. were taken.

[dieselboy]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

Yao Ming made a smooth transation.

As for the other players you brought up, none of them were picked as high as number 2 in the draft.

But a lot of times saying a player is a bust is in the eye of the beholder.

For example someone can argue Stro Swift is a bust for the number 2 pick while others might argue he's still young and could blossom into an elite player still.

If the Pistons have no plans to play him in the future (say the next 2/3 years) they're better off trading him to another team for draft picks then.

If I'm Darko I would be frustarted at the lack of mins. You learn a lot quicker by playing on the court than ncheerleading. Nothing beats hands on experience. Darko is bound to make rookie mistakes so it's better to get it out of his system now than later.

You know why high school and euros before him weren't picked high? Because there was a huge risk involved.

Look at how far down, Rashard Lewis, Kobe Bryant, Amare Stoudamire, etc. were taken.

[ludacris06]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

they definitely should have picked carmelo instead

[ludacris06]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

they definitely should have picked carmelo instead

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

You know why high school and euros before him weren't picked high? Because there was a huge risk involved.

Look at how far down, Rashard Lewis, Kobe Bryant, Amare Stoudamire, etc. were taken.

I understand Darko is a risk but there is risk involved in every single player.

What I'm basically saying is that the chances of Darko living up to the 2nd overall pick or becoming a franchise/star player isn't good.

There has never been a player in the NBA that averaged less than 10 MPG in their first 2 seasons that went on to become a franchise/star player.

Even Jermaine O'Neal averaged over 10 MPG his first 2 seasons.

With the lack of PT Darko is getting, it shows Larry Brown doesn't believe in his abilities. As each game passes, I wouldn't be suprised if Darko eventually tells his agent to speak to Dumars about either playing him or trading him.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

You know why high school and euros before him weren't picked high? Because there was a huge risk involved.

Look at how far down, Rashard Lewis, Kobe Bryant, Amare Stoudamire, etc. were taken.

I understand Darko is a risk but there is risk involved in every single player.

What I'm basically saying is that the chances of Darko living up to the 2nd overall pick or becoming a franchise/star player isn't good.

There has never been a player in the NBA that averaged less than 10 MPG in their first 2 seasons that went on to become a franchise/star player.

Even Jermaine O'Neal averaged over 10 MPG his first 2 seasons.

With the lack of PT Darko is getting, it shows Larry Brown doesn't believe in his abilities. As each game passes, I wouldn't be suprised if Darko eventually tells his agent to speak to Dumars about either playing him or trading him.

[dieselboy]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

Franchise star players are never guaranteed in the Draft, its a crap shoot.

Lets look at some recent #2s.

2002, Jay Williams
2001, Tyson Chandler
2000, Stromile Swift
1997, Keith Van Horn
1996, Marcus Camby
1993, Shawn Bradely
1991, Kenny Anderson
1989, Danny Ferry
1987, Armon Gilliam
1986, Len Bias
1985, Wayman Tisdale
1984, Sam Bowie

How many of them reached the status of Franchise players?

[dieselboy]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

Franchise star players are never guaranteed in the Draft, its a crap shoot.

Lets look at some recent #2s.

2002, Jay Williams
2001, Tyson Chandler
2000, Stromile Swift
1997, Keith Van Horn
1996, Marcus Camby
1993, Shawn Bradely
1991, Kenny Anderson
1989, Danny Ferry
1987, Armon Gilliam
1986, Len Bias
1985, Wayman Tisdale
1984, Sam Bowie

How many of them reached the status of Franchise players?

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

Franchise star players are never guaranteed in the Draft, its a crap shoot.

Lets look at some recent #2s.

2002, Jay Williams
2001, Tyson Chandler
2000, Stromile Swift
1997, Keith Van Horn
1996, Marcus Camby
1993, Shawn Bradely
1991, Kenny Anderson
1989, Danny Ferry
1987, Armon Gilliam
1986, Len Bias
1985, Wayman Tisdale
1984, Sam Bowie

How many of them reached the status of Franchise players?

Franchise/star players are never guaranteed wherever you pick from, but when you're picking from the 2 spot, the least you expect is a decent player.

And if Darko was decent right now, he would be playing more mins. I'm willing to come out and say right now Darko is a bust. If history is any indication, Darko ain't going to be anything more than a role player which is not what any GM wishes from the number 2 pick.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

Franchise star players are never guaranteed in the Draft, its a crap shoot.

Lets look at some recent #2s.

2002, Jay Williams
2001, Tyson Chandler
2000, Stromile Swift
1997, Keith Van Horn
1996, Marcus Camby
1993, Shawn Bradely
1991, Kenny Anderson
1989, Danny Ferry
1987, Armon Gilliam
1986, Len Bias
1985, Wayman Tisdale
1984, Sam Bowie

How many of them reached the status of Franchise players?

Franchise/star players are never guaranteed wherever you pick from, but when you're picking from the 2 spot, the least you expect is a decent player.

And if Darko was decent right now, he would be playing more mins. I'm willing to come out and say right now Darko is a bust. If history is any indication, Darko ain't going to be anything more than a role player which is not what any GM wishes from the number 2 pick.

[Taur3asi3]

Re: If Darko doesn't play nexy year is he a bust?

When you're the Pistons and you luck out and get the number 2 pick based on a trade you did like 5 years prior (i think it was for Otis Thorpe? maybe not im not sure but i think it was like 5 years ago) and you win the league title you can afford to bring him along slowly