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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47568

    #1726
    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
    I wonder of that jersey exchange thing works if you bought LeBrons #23 jersey last year...I wonder if he's going.back to #6...

    Woj said the Lakers may not even get a meeting with Kawhi, now they have one...they at least got their shot. That's the last place I'd want to see him though personally.
    I thought it was for during the season trades. I wonder how it works. Your jersey could be ****ed up at this point.
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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #1727
      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
      I don't think it's happening but hope yall keep that same energy that you did for KD if Kawhi goes to LAL.
      I mean, it still wouldn't be all that comparable.. Bron, AD, Kawhi could be a great trio, but it's not like he's joining a team that's already won a ring, already has their system and culture built, has depth, great team defense, great team offense, etc.

      I think people just look at 2-3 stars and don't realize how rare the totality of what KD's decision was.. What if Shaq left Orlando to join a Bulls team that won 72 games, had the MVP, best coach, etc and all they had to give up for it to happen was lose Longley.. I mean that's basically the type of move KD made.

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      • Master Live 013
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2013
        • 12383

        #1728
        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

        I mean, Kawhi going to the Lakers wouldn't be "KD joining a 73 win team" bad, it would be "Miami Big 3" bad. Worse, because these 3 are better than those 3, no disrespect to Wade and Bosh. So worse than Miami but not as bad as KD.

        I don't know, I just don't see it. Kawhi doesn't seem like a "fit", like he "ain't about that life" and him and LeBron overlap too much in the Venn diagram.
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        • Caveman24
          MVP
          • Jul 2011
          • 1352

          #1729
          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

          I would cry.
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          • RedSceptile
            MVP
            • Jun 2011
            • 3680

            #1730
            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by Majingir
            Reports saying that Raptors will be final team Kawhi will meet with.

            If the date for the Clippers meeting is true, do we really have to wait a whole week again until we hear the decision?
            Yes. What's wrong with a guy taking a few days or weeks if they so choose? People forget that decisions on where you're going to play also involve your wife/kids/etc. so if guys want to take as long as they want too so be it? I would reason to think that a lot of thought and considerations go into these decisions and I know as fans we can be impatient, but it's all good.

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #1731
              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by jeebs9
              I thought it was for during the season trades. I wonder how it works. Your jersey could be ****ed up at this point.
              I don't know if you even meant it this way, but I feel like I need to establish that I, in no way shape or form own a Lakers jersey

              Even though one would match perfectly with the new Air Max I got...just ain't worth it [emoji38]
              Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
              I don't think it's happening but hope yall keep that same energy that you did for KD if Kawhi goes to LAL.
              Yeah, the energy should definitely be maintained...including the defense...but lord knows this KD thing has been done to death...

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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #1732
                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by Master Live 013
                I mean, Kawhi going to the Lakers wouldn't be "KD joining a 73 win" bad, it would be "Miami Big 3" bad. Worse, because these 3 are better than those 3, no disrespect to Wade and Bosh.

                I don't know, I just don't see it. Kawhi doesn't seem like a "fit", like he "ain't about that life" and him and LeBron overlap too much in the Venn diagram.
                It would be much "worse" than Miami assuming LeBron is even at the level he was pre-injury last season or the season before.. Which even if he digresses he should be with just having less defensive attention on him.

                Davis is substantially better than Bosh, and Kawhi with the ability to shoot and defend more than one spot probably has more team value than Wade had, plus Wade was starting to lose a bit by year 2. Bron was GOAT-level IMO in that stretch, and has lost some, but not enough to make up for the gap between Bosh and AD.. Plus Kuz and whatever they get a PG would almost have to be substantially better than Rio and Joel..

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                • jeremym480
                  Speak it into existence
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 18198

                  #1733
                  Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                  Imagine leading a team to an NBA title just to go be the third wheel behind Lebron and his lanky lackey.... I don't think Kawhi is about that life but nothing surprises anymore.
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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #1734
                    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by AUChase
                    As your resident quiet LAL fan who's found the organization to be pretty embarrassing lately, I'm not about to prop Pelinka up like some salary cap, trade, free agency genius because he cleared a little cap space.
                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    Definitely not some genius move from Rob.. Wagner and a 2nd round pick is more than enough for nearly any team to agree to the other two and waive them. If their goal was to get to max room it was always going to be relatively easy to get there IMO.

                    Sorry but I strongly disagree with this. Rob was getting drug through the coals by the media and many Lakers fans were eating it up too. They were literally saying the Lakers FO (aka Rob) didn't understand the CBA, "forgot" to negotiate the trade execution date, didn't create enough cap space, etc. It was all bull**** from the beginning that was slowly backtracked almost each passing day to present day "oh ****, the Lakers now have max cap space".

                    Rob doesn't need to be heralded as a genius or anything but he should at least be labeled as competent if not stellar, as he has clearly demonstrated that his knowledge of the CBA is far above what was initially being reported. Those of us that believed trying to tell people...this dude was Kobe's agent and we all know how meticulous Kobe is...do you think Kobe would've had an agent who didn't have a similar obsession to his own craft as Kobe did his? Magic quitting/getting "stabbed in the back" by Rob appears to have been a huge blessing for this organization.
                    Last edited by cima; 06-27-2019, 02:49 PM.

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                    • BleacherBum2310
                      All Star
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 7107

                      #1735
                      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by ojandpizza
                      I mean, it still wouldn't be all that comparable.. Bron, AD, Kawhi could be a great trio, but it's not like he's joining a team that's already won a ring, already has their system and culture built, has depth, great team defense, great team offense, etc.

                      I think people just look at 2-3 stars and don't realize how rare the totality of what KD's decision was.. What if Shaq left Orlando to join a Bulls team that won 72 games, had the MVP, best coach, etc and all they had to give up for it to happen was lose Longley.. I mean that's basically the type of move KD made.
                      Yeah it would it just wouldn't have the 73 team win aspect. It's the same thing/goal.
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                      • illwill10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 19823

                        #1736
                        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                        I didn't doubt the Lakers ability to get that 32 mil spot. But I still think the most logical choice is to fill out roster. As it is now, the roster seems to be just Lebron, AD, Kuz, and rookies. I rather that get depth instead of getting another max. With that space, they could get 2-4 solid role players.

                        Plus I think other max players are going else where. I dont think Kawhi or Jimmy wants to be third Fiddle. I think Kyrie is set for a New York team. I think Kemba is going to be with Celtic, NY team, or Hornets. So I think they can go Bev/Collison, Green, Cousins/Dedmon, and a guy like Ariza as the 4 players they could target. While gettting a Korver as a vet min guy. I like those guys rather than one max

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                        • cima
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 13478

                          #1737
                          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #1738
                            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                            I've been trying to figure out exactly what he meant since I first saw that..

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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 29807

                              #1739
                              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
                              Yeah it would it just wouldn't have the 73 team win aspect. It's the same thing/goal.
                              Not at all.. That team had the number 1 offense, and the number 1 defense before KD.. MVP in his prime, 2 best shooters in the league and the best shooting team overall in the league, coach of the year level coach, DPOTY level player, 6th man of the year level 6th man.. All KD had to do was walk into a situation, make open shots and not **** up anywhere else.

                              This Lakers would be nothing be 3 starts joining together with the hopes that the rest of the roster isn't *** and that all 3 of their games mesh together and that they can be a great team. There ins't already a great team sitting there waiting on anybody.

                              Again, this is a situation where people think 3 stars is 3 stars and guys 4-15 don't matter, culture doesn't matter, coaching doesn't matter, chemistry doesn't matter, team defense doesn't matter, team offense doesn't matter, depth doesn't matter..

                              But that's been argued many times over here already so..

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                              • BleacherBum2310
                                All Star
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 7107

                                #1740
                                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                                Not at all.. That team had the number 1 offense, and the number 1 defense before KD.. MVP in his prime, 2 best shooters in the league and the best shooting team overall in the league, coach of the year level coach, DPOTY level player, 6th man of the year level 6th man.. All KD had to do was walk into a situation, make open shots and not **** up anywhere else.

                                This Lakers would be nothing be 3 starts joining together with the hopes that the rest of the roster isn't *** and that all 3 of their games mesh together and that they can be a great team. There ins't already a great team sitting there waiting on anybody.

                                Again, this is a situation where people think 3 stars is 3 stars and guys 4-15 don't matter, culture doesn't matter, coaching doesn't matter, chemistry doesn't matter, team defense doesn't matter, team offense doesn't matter, depth doesn't matter..

                                But that's been argued many times over here already so..
                                those are just qualifiers. It's the same. but we've argued this point over and over again. It's not worth rehashing. I'll move on lol
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