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  • BleacherBum2310
    All Star
    • Aug 2010
    • 7107

    #1756
    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by DamnYanks2
    Kemba a lock for Boston?

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    woj wording was pretty strong so I think it's leaning that way. He's never like that. But things can obviously change.
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    • areobee401
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2006
      • 16771

      #1757
      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

      I have serious doubts Kemba to the Celtics is a lock like reports suggest. Reeks of an agent trying to force the Hornets hand.
      http://twitter.com/smittyroberts

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      • lilteapot
        MVP
        • Aug 2013
        • 4550

        #1758
        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

        If MJ really didn't offer more than 160 mil to Kemba, then Hornets fans should feel encouraged. Kemba isn't worth a supermax.

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        • areobee401
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2006
          • 16771

          #1759
          2019 Offseason Thread

          Not doing so shows Jordan failed to consider the optics of the decision. As a small market team that gives off the impression an unwillingness to take care of your homegrown all-star. Coming in $60 million less than the super max is a slap in the face to Walker.

          Why would any player on that level ever want to go there now?
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          • Boltman
            L.A. to S.D. to HI
            • Mar 2004
            • 18283

            #1760
            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by jeremym480
            Imagine leading a team to an NBA title just to go be the third wheel behind Lebron and his lanky lackey.... I don't think Kawhi is about that life but nothing surprises anymore.
            I do think Kawhi is coming, didn't think that before today.

            Lol @ "lanky lackey"

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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #1761
              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

              I don't know that I buy the Lakers are getting Kawhi, but they have kinda been operating like they are under the assumption that they've been in the race this whole time, and the Jones/Perk/LeBron stuff.. Just like they were operating like they had max money when everyone said they blew it.. So I guess we'll see..

              Regardless, as an armchair GM, that's the only move where I would spend all my money on one player. I would not spend it all on Kyrie, Jimmy, Kemba, and wouldn't sign DLo unless it was for less than his max as well.

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              • Boltman
                L.A. to S.D. to HI
                • Mar 2004
                • 18283

                #1762
                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                Local radio here in LA is saying exactly that. Kawhi or split it up and go after several players. It's all great, fun speculation. We'll see soon enough.

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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #1763
                  Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                  From a Kawhi standpoint though, how much sense does that make for him? If his main motive is winning and the only real monkey wrench in him just staying in Toronto is the idea of him going back "home" to play... Isn't the Lakers his best fit?

                  I could see him having a bit more of an old school mentality, and not wanting to play with but rather compete against LeBron.. I actually think the two of them like competing against each other. But if that's not the case, Lakers check both his boxes to a larger degree than anyone else..

                  Plus I actually disagree with their play overlapping and struggling as well. Imagine if D-Wade could switch 1-4 on defense and would take and make open shots and 3's rather than pump fake 75 times. lol.. Also for Kawhi, now he doesn't have to worry about being the play-maker, or forced into those pick and roll situations that still look really awkward for him. He can just be that scorer.

                  Still not what I see happening, just thinking out loud.

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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #1764
                    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    I don't know that I buy the Lakers are getting Kawhi, but they have kinda been operating like they are under the assumption that they've been in the race this whole time, and the Jones/Perk/LeBron stuff.. Just like they were operating like they had max money when everyone said they blew it.. So I guess we'll see..

                    Regardless, as an armchair GM, that's the only move where I would spend all my money on one player. I would not spend it all on Kyrie, Jimmy, Kemba, and wouldn't sign DLo unless it was for less than his max as well.

                    Why wouldn't you spend it all on Kyrie? If healthy, having those 3 guys in the playoffs who can all take turns going ISO if needed...ain't nobody stopping that.

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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #1765
                      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by cima
                      Why wouldn't you spend it all on Kyrie? If healthy, having those 3 guys in the playoffs who can all take turns going ISO if needed...ain't nobody stopping that.
                      Because Kyrie doesn't make anybody better and his play-style isn't conducive of fitting next to a player like AD.. Who would CLEARLY be far and away the better A or B option rather than Kyrie.. And when Bron/AD go to the bench that only get's worse, Kyrie hero-iso is not great basketball. he's yet to really prove he's coach-able, didn't listen to Lue and then Stevens. Pretty much every player on Boston looked worse along side him this year, just like every player on the Cavs did any time Bron went to the bench and Kyrie had the driver seat.

                      And mainly, to your point, rotating ISOs between 3 players shouldn't be necessary from a great team. That's not the ideal recipe to winning at the biggest level. Could they get by with that if it's those 3, sure they would be instant contenders, but could they also build a better team with more defense, more off ball play, more shooting, more depth? Absolutely.

                      If it was a much lesser player than AD, sure.. But how exhausting would it be to watch Kyrie-AD pick and rolls and AD never get the ball because Kyrie needs his 4 extra dribbles? And AD is a free agent after this year.. What better way to run him out of town than by making him the sacrificing afterthought.

                      On top of that he's an injury risk. Along with AD, and who knows with Bron going forward as well. And to another point you've made, you sign one guy you get the Miami scenario all over again with poor depth.. with Kawhi however you have elite defense, efficient scoring, a guy who doesn't mind watching others when they have it going, and a guy who can move and shoot off ball, as well as post.. With Kyrie you have a guy who's only effective with the ball in his hand, and wants no part of giving up his touches for the sake of someone else even if it's better for the team.

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                      • Boltman
                        L.A. to S.D. to HI
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 18283

                        #1766
                        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                        Waste of convo, it ain't Kyrie that's coming anyway.

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                        • Caveman24
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1352

                          #1767
                          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by jeremym480
                          Imagine leading a team to an NBA title just to go be the third wheel behind Lebron and his lanky lackey.... I don't think Kawhi is about that life but nothing surprises anymore.
                          In what world would he be a “third wheel” besides the ESPN sensationalized headlines?
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                          • Sportsbuck
                            The Predator
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 4326

                            #1768
                            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                            Wojo:[ATTACH]165611[/ATTACH]
                            Good for Kemba. He deserves a chance to chase a ring and play for a contender.

                            I don’t know what the hell the Hornets plan has been. We’re letting the best player in franchise history walk for nothing. If you weren’t going to pay him, why in the hell do you hold onto him at the deadline?

                            Smh
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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #1769
                              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                              Imagine lowballing the one All Star Hornet that actually wanted to stay a Hornet.
                              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 06-28-2019, 07:02 AM.

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                              • Boltman
                                L.A. to S.D. to HI
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 18283

                                #1770
                                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                                Imagine lowballing the one All Star Hornet that actually wanted to stay a Hornet.
                                I was thinking about that, what about their fanbase? They mad at MJ/management? Or perhaps they're indifferent about it all?

                                I know everyone is saying that Kemba isn't a max player, so what did MJ do? Lowball their offer by like 60M lower than what people are saying he's due?

                                So Boston is gonna give this guy the max?
                                Last edited by The 24th Letter; 06-28-2019, 07:24 AM.

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