2019 Offseason Thread

[ojandpizza]

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I would do anything for the Jazz to get Jamychal Green to sign on cheap. He can start at the four and move Ingles to a sixth man spot where he can thrive against opposing bench units

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[ojandpizza]

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[illwill10]

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With the moves that have been made it may be harder to predict were teams are going to finish in the standings then normal next season. Man season just needs to start tommorw lol.

I think the East top 8 playoff teams remain the same but maybe a slightly different order. Even without Kawhi, I still think Raptors are good enough to make playoffs. Plus i don't think the teams that missed out made the necessary moves to make that jump. Maybe ATL, but they are super young, so if not this year definitely next year. I don't know Miami will be. I don't think they will be good enough to make playoffs and but not bad enough to have bad record.

West is hard to predict. I definitely think Kings will make the playoffs. I see a Lakers as a playoff team(barring injuries), and I think NOLA is a darkhorse. Maybe GS takes a step back. If Clippers miss out on Kawhi, maybe they miss out. I never want to doubt a Pop coached team. So West will be a fun conference to watch.

[Smallville102001]

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I think the East top 8 playoff teams remain the same but maybe a slightly different order. Even without Kawhi, I still think Raptors are good enough to make playoffs. Plus i don't think the teams that missed out made the necessary moves to make that jump. Maybe ATL, but they are super young, so if not this year definitely next year. I don't know Miami will be. I don't think they will be good enough to make playoffs and but not bad enough to have bad record.

West is hard to predict. I definitely think Kings will make the playoffs. I see a Lakers as a playoff team(barring injuries), and I think NOLA is a darkhorse. Maybe GS takes a step back. If Clippers miss out on Kawhi, maybe they miss out. I never want to doubt a Pop coached team. So West will be a fun conference to watch.

Even dallas and pelicans are interesting and not only trying to say who the 8 teams will be in the west and east for playoffs but trying to predict the order.

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Free agent guard Cory Joseph has agreed to a three-year, $37 million deal with the Sacramento Kings, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

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A few free agents still available:

Kawhi Leonard
DeMarcus Cousins
Kevon Looney
Enes Kanter
Quinn Cook (R)
Marcus Morris
TJ McConnell
Danny Green
Kelly Oubre (R)
Seth Curry
Kentavious C.P.
Kenneth Faried
Rondae H-J
Jeff Green
Rajon Rondo
& more!

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Source confirms Kings’ three-year, $37 million deal with point guard Cory Joseph (@ChrisBHaynes first). I’m told the third year is a partial guarantee.

Also, the Kings rescinded Willie Cauley-Stein’s qualifying offer to free up this money, making him an unrestricted free agent.

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[illwill10]

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Even dallas and pelicans are interesting and not only trying to say who the 8 teams will be in the west and east for playoffs but trying to predict the order.

That is difficult. I think it all depends on Kawhi stays or not. If he does then I think top 4 can virtually remain the same. But losing Brogdon will have an impact on Bucks. Can the Sixers fit Horford in that new lineup and can they get a backup PG and Center? Is Kemba a better fit than Kyrie and what will they do at Center? Can Oladipo stay healthy and remain the same? I think Pacers are a team to watch out for if Oladipo comes back healthy quick, I wouldn't be suprised if they were the 2 seed. But I say Bucks, Sixers, Ind, Bos, Bkyn, Raps, Det, and Orl .
I won't try West. That conference is stacked and you don't know what Lakers will be or if GS still wills there way into playoffs but we will definitely see a different #1 seed.

[itsmb8]

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That is difficult. I think it all depends on Kawhi stays or not. If he does then I think top 4 can virtually remain the same. But losing Brogdon will have an impact on Bucks. Can the Sixers fit Horford in that new lineup and can they get a backup PG and Center? Is Kemba a better fit than Kyrie and what will they do at Center? Can Oladipo stay healthy and remain the same? I think Pacers are a team to watch out for if Oladipo comes back healthy quick, I wouldn't be suprised if they were the 2 seed. But I say Bucks, Sixers, Ind, Bos, Bkyn, Raps, Det, and Orl .
I won't try West. That conference is stacked and you don't know what Lakers will be or if GS still wills there way into playoffs but we will definitely see a different #1 seed.

I think people overestimate what losing Brogdon means IMO. Yes he's a 50/40/90 player, but he's a spotup shooter that benefitted from open jumpers due to Giannis. According to nba.com/stats, Brogdon did not even attempt a contested 3 and was only above 40% on 3s if he had at least 6+ feet of space. Plus, 84.6% of all his attempted threes came off of zero dribbles. Add in the low volume shooting in general, foot issues that have caused him to miss large chunks of each of the past two seasons... I think Brogdon is a low volume, knockoff Klay, which isnt bad, but not a guy that can anchor IMO. Plus, Milwaukee was great (aside from games 3-6 against Toronto) in the playoffs and most were without Brogdon.

Depending on if Milwaukee still has the exception or not, if they can get a player that can score as a spot-up guy or off the dribble, I fully expect them to challenge for a Finals berth again.

[jeebs9]

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Wait the Knicks signed Reggie Bullock too LMAO

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[JazzMan]

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Winners of free agency/off-season so far:

Jazz - Traded for a legit point guard in Conley to pair with Mitchell, signed Bogdanovic to a four year deal, and got Ed Davis for $10M for 2 years. Lose Favors, Crowder, and Rubio, but getting those three players soften the blow. All three of them are better fits than Favs, Crowder, and Rubio were, and they'll help Mitchell and Gobert elevate their games further offensively.

Lakers - They got AD and have the money to get another guy. Whether that is Kawhi Leonard or DeMarcus Cousins, the Lakers have enough money to either get another star or to get a number of high quality role players, which would be wise. They reaaaally need a point guard though.

Celtics - They lose Kyrie, who was already out the door, as well as Horford, and bring in Kemba Walker, an All-Star starter this past season. Kemba could be a better fit for the Celtics, especially in the locker room. Kemba should be a good leader, but they need a center to join him, Tatum, Brown, and Hayward.

Pacers - They lose a handful of starters in Collison, Bogdanovic, and Thad Young, but they bring in a solid guard about to enter his prime in Brogdon. He could be a great fit next to Oladipo, and Jeremy Lamb will be a good sixth man off the bench for them when Oladipo gets healthy. TJ Warren looks like he could have a big role too.

Nets - Pretty much speaks for itself. Durant, Irving, and DeAndre are some high-profile pickups and will put them in contention when Durant returns from injury.

Sixers - Horford, while aging, should be a good pairing with Embiid for the next few years, he has a skillset that allows him to be on the perimeter at both ends effectively, which they desperately need with Simmons and Embiid clogging the paint. Harris coming back is huge and Richardson as well.

Losers:

Warriors - They got Russell somehow, but it's still a downgrade in talent from Durant obviously. I'm sure they would have preferred to keep Durant, but Russell is a good pickup to have next to Steph and Klay.

Kings - That Barnes contract kinda sucks lol. I like the CoJo pick up for them, I think they could use him really well off the bench. But they spent way too much on Barnes.

Hornets - Lost Kemba, but it's a blessing in disguise. They'll eventually lose their bad contracts in a couple years and be able to build later. Still looks bad as an organization though to lowball your franchise player who wanted to stay in Charlotte. And Rozier isn't worth almost $20M per year lol.

Knicks - Lol. Three power forwards, none of them big enough to play full time center or quick enough to play small forward. Yikes.

Timberwolves - Lost out on Russell because of Wiggins' fat contract. Shoulda got Rubio back to run the offense, Wiggins' numbers plummeted as soon as Rubio was traded. Really not much they can do it seems right now thanks to that Wiggins deal.

Pending: Clippers, Raptors, Lakers (could be losers if Rob Lowe messes up the roster construction again), Heat (Butler trade still being hashed out)

I'm sure I'm missing something huge today lol a lot went down. Insanity

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[OSUFan_88]

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If Kawhi doesnt go to the Lakers, this will be the most fun the NBA has looked in decades, maybe ever. No clear front runner, but a ton of good teams that all could win a title.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Basically this is what I don't get if someone could explain.. There were rumors that the Lakers only had the cap-room MLE, which I think is about half the full MLE, roughly the same as the tax payer MLE..

However some articles said that if a team is over the cap but under the tax they get the full MLE, those also said if the Lakers kept all their current players they would get the full MLE... My questions is right now with cap holds the Lakers are over the cap, which is why it was said that if they just run back the same player they would get the full MLE... So as of right now today they would qualify for the full MLE.. If they were to renounce all those guys and sign a max player they would still be over the cap because the max guy takes all their remaining money and they still have a draft pick that is signing over the cap, as well as Caruso and Williams that they gave qualifying offers for.. They could also go the route of signing multiple players and keeping Bullocks cap hold until the end, then re-sign him for however much puts them over the cap (bird rights)..

So technically the Lakers as of right now will be over the cap, and in the event that they sign other players will also be over the cap.. So I'm not getting how they don't have a full MLE, if that's even true to begin with.

Help?

If I understand it correctly, there's two criteria to be eligible for the full MLE.

1. You can't go under the cap to sign free agents.
2. You can't go over the luxury tax apron ($138 million, not to be confused with the luxury tax at $132 million).

The Lakers would meet the 2nd requirement but not the 1st (again, if I understand it correctly). So unless I'm misunderstanding it, which is certainly possible, the Lakers will have the $4.7 million room option at their disposal rather than the $9+ million MLE.

I think people overestimate what losing Brogdon means IMO. Yes he's a 50/40/90 player, but he's a spotup shooter that benefitted from open jumpers due to Giannis. According to nba.com/stats, Brogdon did not even attempt a contested 3 and was only above 40% on 3s if he had at least 6+ feet of space. Plus, 84.6% of all his attempted threes came off of zero dribbles. Add in the low volume shooting in general, foot issues that have caused him to miss large chunks of each of the past two seasons... I think Brogdon is a low volume, knockoff Klay, which isnt bad, but not a guy that can anchor IMO. Plus, Milwaukee was great (aside from games 3-6 against Toronto) in the playoffs and most were without Brogdon.

Depending on if Milwaukee still has the exception or not, if they can get a player that can score as a spot-up guy or off the dribble, I fully expect them to challenge for a Finals berth again.

Klay isn't really the right comparison; Klay is so dangerous coming off screens. Brogdon is strictly a spot up guy in terms of his shooting. He's a really well-rounded player though. Definitely sucks to lose him.

My main concern is the order of operations on our moves. The George Hill contract ensures that we will need to waive Jon Leuer or Ilyasova.

If we're able to carve out cap space, sign Hill, and THEN make the Brogdon trade, we'll get a trade exception of probably around $12 million that we can use to acquire a replacement. If we aren't able to sign Hill prior to the Brogdon trade, we don't get a trade exception at all and then we're just stuck with a worse version of last year's team. I would like to think our reigning Executive of the Year was smart enough to know this and only offered Hill the contract he did because he knows he can make it work, but we'll see.

Overall, I'm happy that we're bringing Middleton and Brook back, though I wish we would have just gone 4 years with Middleton and 3 with Brook. Not really happy about the George Hill deal, especially if it costs us the trade exception. And I'm personally fine with the Brogdon deal; I was expecting him to leave this offseason anyways so the fact that we got picks for him is nice. I just hope we get the trade exception because we really need it.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145669333064048641

Woj: Chicago has reached agreement on a sign-and-trade with Washington for guard Tomas Satoransky, league sources tell ESPN. Bulls are signing Satoransky to a three-year deal, league sources tell ESPN.

Sato will have the opportunity to be the Bulls new starting PG.

[RockinDaMike]

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Overall I’m happy with Rubio in Phoenix and the hopes we move some players to get Oubre signed. Oubre made the game watchable last year so I need this guy on the team.

When I look back and see where our roster is now it’s much better than last year so we are moving in the right direction.


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