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  • georgiafan
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    • Jul 2002
    • 11105

    #361
    Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

    The Knicks may trade Cam Reddish who hasn't seen any real playing time since they traded for him. Like a week ago everyone claimed NY ripped atlanta off.
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    • ojandpizza
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      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #362
      Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

      Originally posted by georgiafan
      The Knicks may trade Cam Reddish who hasn't seen any real playing time since they traded for him. Like a week ago everyone claimed NY ripped atlanta off.
      Really surprised Thibs doesn't want to play the young guy.

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      • King_B_Mack
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        • Jan 2009
        • 24450

        #363
        Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

        Originally posted by ojandpizza
        Yeah it's almost crazy how no other teams are doing this like the Nets, Clippers, Bucks don't' have a pick until 2028, Bulls gave up 1 less pick for Vuc than Lakers did for AD, just bonkers how it's only LeBron lol.
        You couldn't help just leaving that comment back 2 pages ago could you lol.

        I won't go down this road cause we have been down it enough for 3 lifetimes by now. I will just say only 1 of those you have listed has been doing this for over a decade straight now and has a trail of bodies in their wake across multiple franchises (some more than once) of what we're talking about and you know that, but it's cool if you want to keep pretending like you don't.

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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #364
          Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          Really surprised Thibs doesn't want to play the young guy.
          Actually shocking in my opinion. He's everything Thibbs wants in a player. He plays defense first off. Which would be an auto HUGE checkbox for him. But something else must be going on. Doesn't make sense.
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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #365
            Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

            Originally posted by ojandpizza
            Yeah it's almost crazy how no other teams are doing this like the Nets, Clippers, Bucks don't' have a pick until 2028, Bulls gave up 1 less pick for Vuc than Lakers did for AD, just bonkers how it's only LeBron lol.

            Lol We don’t belong in that group if you look at our history over the last 10 years.
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            • ojandpizza
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              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #366
              Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
              You couldn't help just leaving that comment back 2 pages ago could you lol.
              Pot meet kettle

              I won't go down this road cause we have been down it enough for 3 lifetimes by now. I will just say only 1 of those you have listed has been doing this for over a decade straight now and has a trail of bodies in their wake across multiple franchises (some more than once) of what we're talking about and you know that, but it's cool if you want to keep pretending like you don't.
              Cavs are REALLY hurting 4 years later for sure with no signs of promise.

              My point was more so they did get a ring and pretty much 100% of teams would take that if it meant sucking for 3 years once that ride is over. Aside from all that, the Lakers could for sure be awful when he leaves but I think that has far more to do with AD than LeBron/trying to win now because of LeBron. If AD is healthy (lol) he will assumingly be smack dab in his prime and they open up 40 mil in cap room because LeBron expires they should in theory be able just keep competing.

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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #367
                Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                Lol We don’t belong in that group if you look at our history over the last 10 years.
                For the past 10 years no. For trying to go all in now which is what the Lakers are doing/future no-LeBron Lakers that we are currently discussing then yeah.

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #368
                  Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                  Originally posted by jeebs9
                  Actually shocking in my opinion. He's everything Thibbs wants in a player. He plays defense first off. Which would be an auto HUGE checkbox for him. But something else must be going on. Doesn't make sense.

                  I’m guessing this is the beginning of Thibs being on his way out of New York. From the reports I was seeing over the last couple days, Thibs never wanted Cam Reddish and the Knicks front office traded for him anyway. This seems like classic Thibs and the trade being made despite him being against it and the subsequent being glued to the bench is intentionally sending a message to management and I’d expect the Knicks to have a new coach by the start of next season or a new President and GM because this is only gonna get worse between the two sides as it always does with Tom


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                  • King_B_Mack
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                    • Jan 2009
                    • 24450

                    #369
                    2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                    EDIT: Leaving this alone on second thought. Carrying on my peace with OJ


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                    Last edited by King_B_Mack; 02-09-2022, 04:51 PM.

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                    • 3304Life
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                      • Sep 2016
                      • 3002

                      #370
                      2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                      Only long after he’s gone so they can say how much better he made the franchise as winners, completely glossing over the fact that they’re so bad after he leaves because the teams completely destroy their futures to please him and his legions of fans


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                      As a Cavs fan who had seen this happen first hand, twice, I still don’t think it’s appreciated. I think this happens with other superstars but not many others have the kind of gravity that means front offices just put everything into winning instantly.

                      I see this is old news and you’ve already been in this with OJ. My bad. But I will say that LeBron leaving is nothing to do with the current Cavs. This has been brilliant front office management and drafting and trading intelligently, along with being a dumpster fire, and LeBron doesn’t get any credit for putting us in a good circumstance.


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                      • bigeastbumrush
                        My Momma's Son
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19245

                        #371
                        Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                        Originally posted by jeebs9
                        Actually shocking in my opinion. He's everything Thibbs wants in a player. He plays defense first off. Which would be an auto HUGE checkbox for him. But something else must be going on. Doesn't make sense.

                        Thibs vs the front office

                        They’re not gonna trade Cam. And Thibs is not going to play him until they get rid of Kemba and some other players.

                        I’m at the point where I believe Thibs is trying to get fired.

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                        • ojandpizza
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                          • Apr 2011
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                          #372
                          Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                          Originally posted by 3304Life

                          I see this is old news and you’ve already been in this with OJ. My bad. But I will say that LeBron leaving is nothing to do with the current Cavs. This has been brilliant front office management and drafting and trading intelligently, along with being a dumpster fire, and LeBron doesn’t get any credit for putting us in a good circumstance.


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                          Nobody is saying LeBron gets credit for putting them in good circumstances lol. The point was made that LeBron ruins their future. That wasn't the case as obviously their future wasn't ruined. Nobody is giving him credit, that would be silly. But acting like he just crippled the franchise where they couldn't recover is also silly. Case in point being where the Cavs are now.

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                          • cam21224
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 2033

                            #373
                            Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                            Does nobody ever talk about the possibility of how ugly the post-Lebron era Lakers could look like?



                            Yup! Which is why I argued from the beginning of not wanting him on my squad and was in favor of keeping our young guys we drafted. Trading future picks away knowing what happens to franchises after he jumps ship and having to deal with the LeBron only crew outside of Os joining the bandwagon.

                            Can’t argue with the results though even if most just call it a Disney ring/bubble championship.

                            Leave it to most of the fan base the allure of playing for the Lakers will help us poach the next teams superstar as if any was lining up to join the team before the “King saved us” while also destroying us in the near future.
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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #374
                              2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                              Originally posted by ojandpizza
                              For the past 10 years no. For trying to go all in now which is what the Lakers are doing/future no-LeBron Lakers that we are currently discussing then yeah.
                              I guess my point is that I have faith in my GM making sure we don’t get down bad again like we were after the DWill/Pierce/KG years when Marks had to pretty much build us up from scratch.

                              Our post KD/Kyrie future is still 5 years out, lol. Their post-Lebron future can be whenever he says he’s done or when his contract is up.
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                              • Hassan Darkside
                                We Here
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 7561

                                #375
                                Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                                Originally posted by jeebs9
                                Actually shocking in my opinion. He's everything Thibbs wants in a player. He plays defense first off. Which would be an auto HUGE checkbox for him. But something else must be going on. Doesn't make sense.
                                He's not a 12 year past-prime NBA veteran that should be coming off the bench who Thibs sees as a 40 mpg player!

                                But for real, Cam is still a project and Thibs knows that. Thibs likes guys who play hard on defense and play inside their role on offense. Reddish does neither, yet.


                                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                                I’m guessing this is the beginning of Thibs being on his way out of New York. From the reports I was seeing over the last couple days, Thibs never wanted Cam Reddish and the Knicks front office traded for him anyway. This seems like classic Thibs and the trade being made despite him being against it and the subsequent being glued to the bench is intentionally sending a message to management and I’d expect the Knicks to have a new coach by the start of next season or a new President and GM because this is only gonna get worse between the two sides as it always does with Tom
                                I don't see it that way. As soon as Reddish was acquired rumors and speculation of the Knicks trying to move off of a veteran or two came out. I just don't think teams are interested enough in guys like Fournier and Burks given their contracts. Thibs stubborness comes into play with not liking to disrupt a rotation that he's settled on and he's said it himself, they traded a guy who wasn't in the rotation for him. Reddish has played bigger stretches the last couple of games and hasn't exactly blown the doors off or looked much better than anyone else he's competing with minutes for.
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