2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

[Master Live 013]

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Awww, NBA trade deadline is the best:

ESPN Sources: Although Brooklyn Nets guard James Harden wants a trade to the Philadelphia 76ers, he has resisted making that formal request out of fear of the public backlash that would come with asking out of a second franchise in consecutive seasons. https://t.co/My5XljBlI1
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) February 10, 2022

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[Master Live 013]

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And Harden would be right and the backlash deserved. At the same time, formally or not, his wishes are known :P

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Doing twice in 14 months is an amazing thing to accomplish when you think about it.

Aye Will, just send us Ben, Seth, Danny and one of them picks and y’all can have this quitter.

[georgiafan]

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If I'm philly I'm not making a huge offer for Harden who doesnt appear to be signing long term deal to return to Brooklyn. They don't have leverage as they aren't getting a player better then Ben if this plays out till the summer. So why would you throw thybulle, Curry and a 1st in the deal ?

[cima]

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The Nets forming of the big 3 that really broke the Lakers was all for nothing, lmao

[illwill10]

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Doing twice in 14 months is an amazing thing to accomplish when you think about it.

Aye Will, just send us Ben, Seth, Danny and one of them picks and y’all can have this quitter.

If I'm philly I'm not making a huge offer for Harden who doesnt appear to be signing long term deal to return to Brooklyn. They don't have leverage as they aren't getting a player better then Ben if this plays out till the summer. So why would you throw thybulle, Curry and a 1st in the deal ?

I don't want to give up Thybulle. We would have 0 perimeter defense unless anyone think Danny Green old *** is going to stop anyone above average lol. I'm not as attached Curry. But, wouldn't mind him sliding down to 6th man spot which would give us bench scoring we desperately need.

I agree with not wanting give up significant value for someone can be a Free Agent, though there are now more teams with cap space for summer. But, there aren't any other "suiters" for Harden. Sure plenty of teams would want him, but Philly isn't competing with anyone else..

You guys can have Ben, Danny, and Furkan, and a 1st and be happy with it lol

[ProfessaPackMan]

2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

What leverage does Philly have in this situation? They can’t outright sign him unless they clear out a significant amount of salary, so they’re banking on someone else helping them out. And they can’t do a S&T either so where does that leave them.

There’s no pressure on us to get a deal done. This is all on Morey since he’ll be one the accuse of “wasting another prime year from Embiid by not getting him better talent”

[illwill10]

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What leverage does Philly have in this situation? They can’t outright sign him unless they clear out a significant amount of salary, so they’re banking on someone else helping them out. And they can’t do a S&T either so where does that leave them.

We can afford to keep him past the deadline, even though he’ll probably continue to be an issue because of this and let him walk.

Not unless they salary dump Tobias to OKC, move off Danny and Furkan.


There's a likely scenario that the mask mandate gets lifted in a month or so. KD should be back after ASW. If they win the title, all this dysfunction will be wiped away. At the same time, I'm not want to gut away the roster that would still have significant flaws with Harden. And as you know well, we would likely be in the same situation where Harden quits on the team in a year or so.


I'm still okay with going a "complete team" deal. But, that would need to be a 3-4 team deal where we are getting pieces here and there.

[jeebs9]

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Doing twice in 14 months is an amazing thing to accomplish when you think about it.

Aye Will, just send us Ben, Seth, Danny and one of them picks and y’all can have this quitter.

Seriously I'm loving your energy right now [emoji2]

[georgiafan]

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It appears Harden doesn't want to be in Brooklyn and will not resign with them. If they wait the summer Brooklyn will have no leverage at all. Even though the teams with cap space are bad that's enough for agents to start rumors he will sign with them, and they get nothing for him.

Harden will have lower value as time goes on he is 32 and in the middle of a bad year for him. Your also going to have to pay him around 50 million a year. Philly isn't winning the title this year if they trade all the perimeter defense.

What leverage does Philly have in this situation? They can’t outright sign him unless they clear out a significant amount of salary, so they’re banking on someone else helping them out. And they can’t do a S&T either so where does that leave them.

There’s no pressure on us to get a deal done. This is all on Morey since he’ll be one the accuse of “wasting another prime year from Embiid by not getting him better talent”

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Not unless they salary dump Tobias to OKC, move off Danny and Furkan.





There's a likely scenario that the mask mandate gets lifted in a month or so. KD should be back after ASW. If they win the title, all this dysfunction will be wiped away. At the same time, I'm not want to gut away the roster that would still have significant flaws with Harden. And as you know well, we would likely be in the same situation where Harden quits on the team in a year or so.





I'm still okay with going a "complete team" deal. But, that would need to be a 3-4 team deal where we are getting pieces here and there.

Exactly, y’all are gonna be waiting on some team helping you out and taking his contract off your hands and that’s not a guarantee it will happen. And until that happens, you have assume that cap space is going to be tight for y’all.

I don’t think this is a case of Marks asking for whatever he wants because they both have players that don’t want to be in their current situations. If anything, they’re haggling over which role players they should give up, which is silly.

It appears Harden doesn't want to be in Brooklyn and will not resign with them. If they wait the summer Brooklyn will have no leverage at all. Even though the teams with cap space are bad that's enough for agents to start rumors he will sign with them, and they get nothing for him.



Harden will have lower value as time goes on he is 32 and in the middle of a bad year for him. Your also going to have to pay him around 50 million a year. Philly isn't winning the title this year if they trade all the perimeter defense.

Toronto did it with Kawhi but nobody says anything because it resulted in a title for them.

And even if he does walk for nothing, we still have KD and Kyrie. It’s not like we’ll be staring down the hole of a long rebuild. It’s already a sunk cost for us so if he leaves by FA, it’s not going to hurt us anymore than it did giving up those picks/players to get him in the first place, so that’s why I don’t understand the notion that we have no leverage or that Philly has an advantage in this because they don’t.

[jeebs9]

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Today is probably going to be the most entertaining trade deadline ever or the most boring one [emoji23]. I can feel it.

Even if Harden isn't traded today. The damage is done. I'm not a rumor guy. I can't imagine this all going to look the other way like this ain't happen.

I saw a rumor about the James Harden complaining about taxes in NYC. How? [emoji23]

[illwill10]

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Exactly, y’all are gonna be waiting on some team helping you out and taking his contract off your hands and that’s not a guarantee it will happen. And until that happens, you have assume that cap space is going to be tight for y’all.

I don’t think this is a case of Marks asking for whatever he wants because they both have players that don’t want to be in their current situations. If anything, they’re haggling over which role players they should give up, which is silly.



Toronto did it with Kawhi but nobody says anything because it resulted in a title for them.

And even if he does walk for nothing, we still have KD and Kyrie. It’s not like we’ll be staring down the hole of a long rebuild. It’s already a sunk cost for us so if he leaves by FA, it’s not going to hurt us anymore than it did giving up those picks/players to get him in the first place, so that’s why I don’t understand the notion that we have no leverage or that Philly has an advantage in this because they don’t.

I do think it is a "help me, help you" situation. But it would be different if this was Dame instead of Harden. Where at least with Dame, he has years left. If I'm Brooklyn, I wouldn't want to trade him either way(unless he is dead set on quitting on team). If the mandate lifts and KD can come back healthy, I'd like them over anyone in the East. I'm telling Harden "Just give us your all the rest of the season and let's try to win a chip. If it all falls apart or you still want to go, we'll help facilitate a sign and trade in the offseason".

If they trade for Ben, he'll probably need a week or so to get back to game shape. Which essentially means, after All Star Break. Which means, they can keep sliding down the standings. It's crazy to think that there's a possibility that Brooklyn could be in the play-in as a team that has to win twice just to get to the 8th seed. Whose to say Ben doesn't skip out on March 10th against Philly lol

I wouldn't say Philly has leverage. Only thing, they could say is that he can walk. He's not going to any of those rebuilding teams. Only thing they can possibly say is that, there aren't any of suitors at the moment who is bidding against Philly. But even then, Brooklyn has the player they want who is playing, not the one with hurt feelings buying NFTs lol

Nash already just said that Harden most likely isn't playing Saturday as well

[illwill10]

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Today is probably going to be the most entertaining trade deadline ever or the most boring one [emoji23]. I can feel it.

Even if Harden isn't traded today. The damage is done. I'm not a rumor guy. I can't imagine this all going to look the other way like this ain't happen.

I saw a rumor about the James Harden complaining about taxes in NYC. How? [emoji23]

I just hope there is a cut off point for this. I don't want to "save assets" for the summer. We can't go past this deadline as is. We need a true PG(backup), two way athletic wing, and rebounding. If not, we're a first round exit depending on matchup

Guess he forgot the difference being out of Texas lol

It does feel this Harden talk, is holding everything up.

[jeebs9]

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I just hope there is a cut off point for this. I don't want to "save assets" for the summer. We can't go past this deadline as is. We need a true PG(backup), two way athletic wing, and rebounding. If not, we're a first round exit depending on matchup

Guess he forgot the difference being out of Texas lol

It does feel this Harden talk, is holding everything up.

I get it though. That's Stripper money going into Uncle Sam's pocket.

But it's significant....screen_shot_2022-02-09_at_4.37.36_pm.jpg

I'm completely kidding on all this tax stuff. Friend of mine sent that to me. I just laughed out loud.