2023 Offseason Thread

[King_B_Mack]

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Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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RFA Rui Hachimura has agreed to a three-year, $51 million deal to return to the Lakers, sources tell
@TheAthletic

@Stadium
.

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Free agent Cam Reddish has agreed to a two-year deal with the Lakers, sources tell
@TheAthletic

@Stadium
.

Lakers re-up with Rui and bringing in Cam

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Free agent Josh Richardson has agreed on a two-year deal with the Miami Heat, sources tell
@TheAthletic

@Stadium
. Richardson returns to the franchise that drafted him in 2015.

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Richardson's deal to return to Miami includes a player option, per sources

[King_B_Mack]

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Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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Free agent G Fred VanVleet has agreed on a three-year, $130 million contract with the Houston Rockets,
@KlutchSports
CEO Rich Paul and agent Erika Ruiz tell ESPN. Rockets land ex-Raptors All-Star in his prime at 29 years old.

And there's the Van Vleet move

[ojandpizza]

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43 a year? Jesus [emoji23]

[BleacherBum2310]

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I gotta admit PHX did a nice job filling their bench.

that FVV contract is insane. Masai is probably the most overrated GM in the league.

Glad Gabe is out of the east but the Lakers gotta know that vodoo does not transfer. Bruce getting 22.5 per was also wild.

[Majingir]

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Definitely had to be a bidding war at that point.

Original rumor started as 2 years 43m per in Houston

Then it said Raptors offer is enticing with 4 years 30m per year (so almost 40m more guaranteed total).

Guess that forced Rockets to go a 3rd year and put it over the top.

Glad Raptors didn't top that, but will also be sad seeing Fred go. I wonder what that means for the Raptors now. Do you deal OG or Siakam for a PG, or does Scottie become the Point Forward?

that FVV contract is insane. Masai is probably the most overrated GM in the league.

How does it make him overrated when he didn't match it?

[BleacherBum2310]

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Definitely had to be a bidding war at that point.

Original rumor started as 2 years 43m per in Houston

Then it said Raptors offer is enticing with 4 years 30m per year (so almost 40m more guaranteed total).

Guess that forced Rockets to go a 3rd year and put it over the top.

Glad Raptors didn't top that, but will also be sad seeing Fred go. I wonder what that means for the Raptors now. Do you deal OG or Siakam for a PG, or does Scottie become the Point Forward?




How does it make him overrated when he didn't match it?

not this particular move, basically everything since he was gifted the Kawhi trade. after that. getting nothing for FVV and Lowry. they should've rebuilt alot sooner but was asking for the moon on basically everyone etc.

I think he's solid overall but there was a time people were thinking he was elite.

[Majingir]

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not this particular move, basically everything since he was gifted the Kawhi trade. after that. getting nothing for FVV and Lowry. they should've rebuilt alot sooner but was asking for the moon on basically everyone etc.

That's the hill the Raptors will die on.

Either they win a deal or they won't do it, even if it winds up with them losing a guy for nothing. Definitely hasn't been a good stretch lately, but I'd rather this approach than various bad approaches where it's just loss after loss after loss like we see from some teams.

I wouldn't call the Kawhi deal gifted. People ripped Masai so much when it happened. If Raptors didn't win with Kawhi and/or Kawhi didn't want to play, Masai was probably gone.

And all the hate for the Barnes pick too.

Masai is an all or nothing type of guy.

[illwill10]

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Definitely had to be a bidding war at that point.

Original rumor started as 2 years 43m per in Houston

Then it said Raptors offer is enticing with 4 years 30m per year (so almost 40m more guaranteed total).

Guess that forced Rockets to go a 3rd year and put it over the top.

Glad Raptors didn't top that, but will also be sad seeing Fred go. I wonder what that means for the Raptors now. Do you deal OG or Siakam for a PG, or does Scottie become the Point Forward?




How does it make him overrated when he didn't match it?

How about an active top 75 player of all time PG for either OG or Siakam lol.

But seriously, it's beyond weak at PG. You got Westbrook and D'Angelo, than a huge drop-off. I could see teams try to pluck one of Monte Morris or Delon Wright from Washington. Or go after either Suggs or Fultz from Orlando. Or Josh Christopher from Houston. Besides that, it's slim pickings for teams that need a starting caliber PG.

[ojandpizza]

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[illwill10]

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That's the hill the Raptors will die on.

Either they win a deal or they won't do it, even if it winds up with them losing a guy for nothing. Definitely hasn't been a good stretch lately, but I'd rather this approach than various bad approaches where it's just loss after loss after loss like we see from some teams.

I wouldn't call the Kawhi deal gifted. People ripped Masai so much when it happened. If Raptors didn't win with Kawhi and/or Kawhi didn't want to play, Masai was probably gone.

And all the hate for the Barnes pick too.

Masai is an all or nothing type of guy.

I do remember there were legit rumors about Maxey being on the table for a Lowry trade that year. I remember it was Matisse, picks plus.
Morey is the same way with deals. Unless he feels he fleeced a deal, he's not going to make the deal. I don't think Morey is going to take a role player package for Harden. He wants a star.

[ggsimmonds]

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And there's the Van Vleet move

But why tho?

[King_B_Mack]

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Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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Free agent G Dennis Schroder has agreed to a two-year, $26M deal with the Toronto Raptors, agent Mark Bartelstein of
@PrioritySports
tells ESPN.

Welp, there's your answer Maj

[Majingir]

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Kawhi and Danny left in FA. A S&T wasn't happening.

Gasol and Ibaka leaving after the bubble playoffs, again, what exactly could/should the Raptors have done?

Lowrys return was weak, but do we know what the actual good offers Raptors turned down were? Sounds like the 76ers turned down the Maxey deals and Heat refused to deal Duncan. Lakers didn't want to deal THT in any deal at the time.

FVV should've been moved this season though. That's the one for sure I would've said they should've done but they refused to.

[ggsimmonds]

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That's the hill the Raptors will die on.

Either they win a deal or they won't do it, even if it winds up with them losing a guy for nothing. Definitely hasn't been a good stretch lately, but I'd rather this approach than various bad approaches where it's just loss after loss after loss like we see from some teams.

I wouldn't call the Kawhi deal gifted. People ripped Masai so much when it happened. If Raptors didn't win with Kawhi and/or Kawhi didn't want to play, Masai was probably gone.

And all the hate for the Barnes pick too.

Masai is an all or nothing type of guy.

But...thats exactly what this is. They lose players without getting anything in return. Whats that if not a loss?

[Majingir]

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Welp, there's your answer Maj

"Free agent G Dennis Schroder has agreed to a two-year, $26M deal with the Toronto Raptors, agent Mark Bartelstein of @PrioritySports tells ESPN."

I'd rather Scottie just becoming the PG.