The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

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  • Jeffx
    MVP
    • Jan 2007
    • 3045

    #436
    Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

    Another pet peeve - can the Knicks STOP wearing those stupid, ugly green uniforms??

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    • bigfnjoe96
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2004
      • 11410

      #437
      Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

      Here's an interesting quote from an article on the Knicks & their defense that I found interesting..

      The Knicks have risen to 18th in what the coaching staff views as the most important defensive stat -- points per 100 possessions. (The Knicks were 28th during their 3-8 start). The Knicks are second in the NBA in blocked shots, with Stoudemire setting a tone of toughness.



      "We're playing better team defense, we're playing better help defense," said Felton. "Amare getting six blocks [on Christmas] was big, just helping weak side and cleaning up. It makes me and Toney [Douglas'] job much easier pressuring the ball because we know we have guys who are going to clean things up when we make mistakes."



      The Knicks have the makings of a competent defensive club. Felton, Douglas and Turiaf breathe and sleep defense. Wilson Chandler is an active defender. Rookie Landry Fields rarely makes a mistake. Danilo Gallinari, despite some inconsistent offensive nights, has been tenacious on the other end, among the league leaders in charges drawn.
      And Stoudemire's continuous parroting of the coaching staff's defensive game plans, according to a source, is another example of his stout leadership. Even during the Knicks' 13-1 run, Stoudemire kept telling the press the club had to improve defensively -- a message that finally has sunk in.


      http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knick...TO6D4Vijqf63gJ





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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #438
        Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

        Frustrating game last night, getting shellacked on the boards by Big Z & Co.

        Clyde said it was an "Illgauskathon".
        "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

        "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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        • Vast
          MVP
          • Sep 2003
          • 4015

          #439
          Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

          Originally posted by ehh
          Frustrating game last night, getting shellacked on the boards by Big Z & Co.

          Clyde said it was an "Illgauskathon".
          lol true. Well at least we were only down by 3 with less than 2 mins to go.

          Why does Dantoni think that Chandler can guard Bosh?

          And how does he think playing his starters for 46 mins a game, is good for the team in the long run?
          "I'm addicted to Video Games, and i chase it with a little OS." -Winston Churchill

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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #440
            Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

            That game was much closer than it should have been. LBJ shows up and its a blow out.

            He had a "quiet" 18/10/8.

            Knicks need to be able to have a guy other than Amar'e be able to take players one on one. Gallo/Chandler work nicely off the PnR but it's an adventure in any other scenario.

            It's also tough to play the in and out game since Amare is up at the top of the key always facing the hoop. The Knicks shoot well when someone drives the lane and kicks it to a corner for a three or an extra pass to the wing.

            Fields does poorly against the Heat. Seems scared. Doesn't like taking it Wade which is odd considering Wade wanders a lot on defense.
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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #441
              Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

              Originally posted by Jeffx
              Another pet peeve - can the Knicks STOP wearing those stupid, ugly green uniforms??
              Then don't tune in March 17th against Memphis.
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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #442
                Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                Who else do we have to guard Bosh though? To be honest, Bosh getting 18 & 10 is fine, we'll live with that.
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                • Vast
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 4015

                  #443
                  Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                  Originally posted by ehh
                  Who else do we have to guard Bosh though? To be honest, Bosh getting 18 & 10 is fine, we'll live with that.
                  He just seems much shorter than the 3 inch difference listed. Bosh went off on us in the 3rd and caused the Heat to pull away to a 17 point lead when the game was almost in our grasp.
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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #444
                    Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                    I have no issue with the game Bosh had last night. At all.

                    That stretch Bosh had was silly. All three are capable of that.

                    But Z going off was absolutely ridiculous.
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                    • Vast
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 4015

                      #445
                      Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                      I feel like the coach should be making defensive adjustments when we're undersized and getting beat up on mismatches.

                      Chandler on Bosh is a mismatch.
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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #446
                        Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                        Unfortunately, there is no real opportunity to switch on that mismatch. No one wants to see Turiaf play 35 minutes just to guard Bosh.

                        Chandler has to be on the floor to score. Just the reality of the situation for the Knicks right now.

                        As I said before, I won't get too angry at these games. The Knicks were just beat. They played hard. They tried on defense. They tried to score. The Heat are just that much better than them.
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                        • Vast
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 4015

                          #447
                          Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                          Originally posted by CMH
                          Unfortunately, there is no real opportunity to switch on that mismatch. No one wants to see Turiaf play 35 minutes just to guard Bosh.

                          Chandler has to be on the floor to score. Just the reality of the situation for the Knicks right now.

                          As I said before, I won't get too angry at these games. The Knicks were just beat. They played hard. They tried on defense. They tried to score. The Heat are just that much better than them.
                          Very True. Somehow tho the game was still winnable. Maybe put Gallo on him who is only an inch shorter.
                          Anyway i guess i just want to be as impressed by the coaching as i am by the players.
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                          • bigfnjoe96
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 11410

                            #448
                            Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                            Bottom Line, we were out rebounded again (18) & we missed 10 Free Throws. There's no doubt we lost to the better team. What's frustrating is not getting the fundamentals under control.

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                            • bigeastbumrush
                              My Momma's Son
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19245

                              #449
                              Donnie Walsh needs to get on the phone and send Eddy Curry's expiring to Portland for Marcus Camby and a throw-in.
                              Give up Randolph and/or Douglas if you have to.
                              But the Knicks need a big who can rebound and block playing Center.
                              It was SO painful watching Big Z just abuse us down low...without even much effort.
                              All this high octane scoring is fine when you're playing against teams that can't defend.
                              But when the game slows down and you can't score..you should be able to stop the other team from scoring every now and then.
                              The Knicks have holes..and one of them is not scoring.

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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #450
                                Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                                Originally posted by CMH
                                Unfortunately, there is no real opportunity to switch on that mismatch. No one wants to see Turiaf play 35 minutes just to guard Bosh.

                                Chandler has to be on the floor to score. Just the reality of the situation for the Knicks right now.

                                As I said before, I won't get too angry at these games. The Knicks were just beat. They played hard. They tried on defense. They tried to score. The Heat are just that much better than them.
                                Pretty much.

                                Originally posted by Vast
                                Very True. Somehow tho the game was still winnable. Maybe put Gallo on him who is only an inch shorter.
                                Anyway i guess i just want to be as impressed by the coaching as i am by the players.
                                Would you do this and switch Chandler on LBJ? Gallo did a great job defending him most of the game.

                                Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                                Bottom Line, we were out rebounded again (18) & we missed 10 Free Throws. There's no doubt we lost to the better team. What's frustrating is not getting the fundamentals under control.
                                I can't be angry at the FT's. I agree but at the same time Miami missed about an equal amount of FT's. They were at key moments when they resonated most (Amare's and 1, Fields 1-3, Felton 1-2 in the 4th) but if the team has to be P-E-R-F-E-C-T while Miami just has a decent game then it's a bad sign matching up against them.

                                The Knicks came back from 22 down. It's a positive loss, in a strange way.
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