Official Boston Celtics Thread

[areobee401]

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And now time for my personal favorite.

The “Nuclear Summer” option:

https://www.celticsblog.com/2019/5/2...source=twitter

It’s happening!

[tonybologna]

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WOW! Horford is going to be gone now too: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ek-deal-boston

This is a major blow. We already knew/expected Kyrie to be gone but I didn't expect this out of Horford. I'm bummed out now! We are possibly now looking at a tanking team for sure now unless we get some major FA pickups.

[jeremym480]

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The cap situation without Horford and renouncing Morris and Rozier.




We know Kawhi isn't coming so I don't think there's anyone else that's going to turn us into an immediate contender. I guess Kemba or D'Lo would be the best options but with Baynes being our best big then I'm not sure it will matter...

[tonybologna]

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The cap situation without Horford and renouncing Morris and Rozier.




We know Kawhi isn't coming so I don't think there's anyone else that's going to turn us into an immediate contender. I guess Kemba or D'Lo would be the best options but with Baynes being our best big then I'm not sure it will matter...

Do you think we renounce Rozier? I think the only way that happens is if we don't go after a FA PG like Kemba, Rubio, or Collison. We have to make that decision soon though. I already said that I would like Rubio in this offense but Kyrie & Horford now gone like you said it probably won't matter & with Horford gone now players like Kemba, Rubio, & Collison might not want to be in Boston without a solid big man.

I don't see Marcus Morris being back period & I've thought that since the end of the season. The problem with renouncing Rozier is that we must have a backup plan if he's gone. We must have a FA PG that's given us the OK that he wants to sign with the Celtics because otherwise we have no decent starting PG. Sure, Smart could move into the starting PG position but he's not suited for that role. Wannamaker is rumored to be going elsewhere too but he's not a starting PG either.

P.J. Dozier is a RFA & will probably be back & has some skills as a tall lanky PG but he's definitely not a starter either. We must address starting PG before we make a final decision to renounce Rozier. Of course, official FA doesn't start until June 30th.

[jeremym480]

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Do you think we renounce Rozier? I think the only way that happens is if we don't go after a FA PG like Kemba, Rubio, or Collison. We have to make that decision soon though. I already said that I would like Rubio in this offense but Kyrie & Horford now gone like you said it probably won't matter & with Horford gone now players like Kemba, Rubio, & Collison might not want to be in Boston without a solid big man.

I don't see Marcus Morris being back period & I've thought that since the end of the season. The problem with renouncing Rozier is that we must have a backup plan if he's gone. We must have a FA PG that's given us the OK that he wants to sign with the Celtics because otherwise we have no decent starting PG. Sure, Smart could move into the starting PG position but he's not suited for that role. Wannamaker is rumored to be going elsewhere too but he's not a starting PG either.

P.J. Dozier is a RFA & will probably be back & has some skills as a tall lanky PG but he's definitely not a starter either. We must address starting PG before we make a final decision to renounce Rozier. Of course, official FA doesn't start until June 30th.

Yes, I think they would renounce Rozier if they find someone better. With that said, they won't renounce Rozier unless they already have an agreement with another player first. That's what the moratorium is for so they have some time to talk to FA's before making any decisions; if another team signs Rozier to an offer sheet, then that will put more pressure on Boston but they will get a chance to a) see what's out there (if anything) and match any offer Rozier gets (if they want to).

I think there is a decent chance that Rozier is back with the Celtics just because Danny seems to love him. And if he is back, I think he will be the starter. Mainly because if he threw a fit last year as a backup to Kyrie, then I don't think he would be happy to backup Smart or whoever new they bring in.

Personally, I hope Rozier is gone. Even if we don't get another PG in free agency. Rozier is more of an undersized SG than he is a PG. He can bring the ball up-court but he's not a good passer and Smart or Hayward are better suited for initiating the offense. I'd be done with Smart as the starter and then drafting Carson Edwards with pick 20 or 22.

I think originally they wanted Morris back but with these recent developments he's likely gone too and that's fine. If we aren't contending then they need to focus on developing the young guys and Morris will just take minutes away from them. If something happens and we end up with someone like Kemba or a surprising trade is made, and we remain contender, then i think they Morris comes back. I wouldn't put any money on that happening though.

[tonybologna]

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Yes, I think they would renounce Rozier if they find someone better. With that said, they won't renounce Rozier unless they already have an agreement with another player first. That's what the moratorium is for so they have some time to talk to FA's before making any decisions; if another team signs Rozier to an offer sheet, then that will put more pressure on Boston but they will get a chance to a) see what's out there (if anything) and match any offer Rozier gets (if they want to).

I think there is a decent chance that Rozier is back with the Celtics just because Danny seems to love him. And if he is back, I think he will be the starter. Mainly because if he threw a fit last year as a backup to Kyrie, then I don't think he would be happy to backup Smart or whoever new they bring in.

Personally, I hope Rozier is gone. Even if we don't get another PG in free agency. Rozier is more of an undersized SG than he is a PG. He can bring the ball up-court but he's not a good passer and Smart or Hayward are better suited for initiating the offense. I'd be done with Smart as the starter and then drafting Carson Edwards with pick 20 or 22.

I think originally they wanted Morris back but with these recent developments he's likely gone too and that's fine. If we aren't contending then they need to focus on developing the young guys and Morris will just take minutes away from them. If something happens and we end up with someone like Kemba or a surprising trade is made, and we remain contender, then i think they Morris comes back. I wouldn't put any money on that happening though.

+1 on that post. Totally agree with you about Rozier.

Most of the latest mock drafts have us taking Tyler Herro (SG) from Kentucky with our 14th Pick. That's if we don't trade up to #3 or #4 to draft Garland to be our PG. This would cost us at least picks 14, 20, & 22. I would love to have Garland even though he's only played in 4 college games due to injury.

He was a top prospect coming out of high school from my home state of Tennessee. He can really play. I am concerned though about his injury. Don't seem NBA teams are that concerned though because at least 5 teams are said to be wanting him.

Herro would be a pick if we do end up taking him that would be a project. He's not ready to be a direct contributor for us yet. He is strictly a shooter right now. Needs tons of work on defense & awareness on the court. Decent rebounder but he's not a real athletic SG. Does have good height @ 6'5" though.

[R1zzo23]

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I’m not a fan of Herro, especially @ 14. If he were available at #22 then it would be more palatable.


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[tonybologna]

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I’m not a fan of Herro, especially @ 14. If he were available at #22 then it would be more palatable.


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I'm not either. #14 is too high for him. He's ranked as the #27 NBA Draft prospect so we could probably draft him @ 20 or 22 because he will probably still be available. I like the early mock drafts that had us taking Kevin Porter (SG) from USC @ 14 much better than drafting Herro in that spot.

[R1zzo23]

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What do people think about PJ Washington at 14? I know we have a need at PG but there aren’t any available at that spot. With Horford gone, we suddenly have a need for a big man and I like his skill set in Stevens’ offense. The #14 pick is right around his draft value so he may or may not be there.


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[tonybologna]

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What do people think about PJ Washington at 14? I know we have a need at PG but there aren’t any available at that spot. With Horford gone, we suddenly have a need for a big man and I like his skill set in Stevens’ offense. The #14 pick is right around his draft value so he may or may not be there.


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Mock drafts have Washington being gone by pick #14. Somewhere in the 10-13 range so he probably wouldn't be available. If he is still there then I wouldn't mind picking him at all. He's a both ends of the court player.

[jeremym480]

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What do people think about PJ Washington at 14? I know we have a need at PG but there aren’t any available at that spot. With Horford gone, we suddenly have a need for a big man and I like his skill set in Stevens’ offense. The #14 pick is right around his draft value so he may or may not be there.


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I wouldn't be uspet with Washington.

I'm getting more and more to going all in on D'Lo. Him and the Jay's all are o the same timeline so let them grow together.

Then go young by keeping all of the draft picks. In the draft try to grab two big's in the draft (one true center and a tweener SF/PF) then a offensive minded PG. Something like Washington at #14, Gogo (if he fails that far), Bol Bol, or Fernando at #20, and Edwards or Jerome at #22. At #51 I really hope the Admiral Schofield is there. Heck, maybe take a flier on Tacko.

I need to see more from Robert Williams and if he continues to progress then Baynes would be a good candidate for a trade. That would give us and all "under 30" roster with Hayward being the elder statesman and Smart being the second older at 25.

D'Lo, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Baynes
FA, Hayward, Semi, Washington, Time Lord
Edwards, Yabu, Bol Bol
Schofield (2 Way)

The way I see it is Ainge needs to spend the money this offseason because next year we're going to have to spend money to keep Brown, and Tatum the following year. Spend the $ while you can.

[tonybologna]

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I wouldn't be uspet with Washington.

I'm getting more and more to going all in on D'Lo. Him and the Jay's all are o the same timeline so let them grow together.

Then go young by keeping all of the draft picks. In the draft try to grab two big's in the draft (one true center and a tweener SF/PF) then a offensive minded PG. Something like Washington at #14, Gogo (if he fails that far), Bol Bol, or Fernando at #20, and Edwards or Jerome at #22. At #51 I really hope the Admiral Schofield is there. Heck, maybe take a flier on Tacko.

I need to see more from Robert Williams and if he continues to progress then Baynes would be a good candidate for a trade. That would give us and all "under 30" roster with Hayward being the elder statesman and Smart being the second older at 25.

D'Lo, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Baynes
FA, Hayward, Semi, Washington, Time Lord
Edwards, Yabu, Bol Bol
Schofield (2 Way)

The way I see it is Ainge needs to spend the money this offseason because next year we're going to have to spend money to keep Brown, and Tatum the following year. Spend the $ while you can.

Big Admiral Schofield fan here. I'm a Vol fan so I guess that I'm a bit biased. He would be a pretty good fit for this team in my opinion. He's a hustler just like Smart. He is very physical & plays tough defense. He can rebound really well for his height under the basket. He can shoot the 3 ball but for his size he can post up & hit the 10-15 fadeaways well too. He can shoot off the dribble but he's not a great ball handler.

He is really good using screens to get open shots. He is better though at the pick & pop because he's so strong. He really played out of position while at UT. All 4 years he played mostly PF but he did get to play SF his senior season. At the PF position he held his own really well although he's undersized @ 6'6". That's because of his strength & athleticism. He is suited more as a SF but he could play SG too in the NBA.

6'6" is a little small for SF but his physical strength & athletic ability is plenty good enough to play SF. He has really worked on his 3-pt. shooting. When he was a freshman @ UT Admiral couldn't shoot the ball worth a darn. He was strictly an inside force. He did have a decent shot to 15 feet out but the 3-pt. line was not a thing of his. His sophomore season he got better with that shot & it wasn't until his junior season that he became a real 3-pt. threat.

He can play up tempo or he can play slow down half court style ball as well. He loves the up tempo style much better though in which most NBA teams play anyhow. I would love seeing Schofield there @ 51. Mock drafts are mixed on whether he will be there or not. He's anywhere from an early 2nd Round Pick to late 2nd Round Pick so there is a possibility.

If we don't trade up to draft Garland then for another PG I would take Carson Edwards @ 20 or 22, & if Schofield is already gone & we still haven't drafted a PG get Jordan Bone also from UT @ 51. Bone should have stayed for his senior season @ UT in my opinion but he has the tools/skills to be an NBA PG.

It would take some grooming though for him. He needs more work on his shooting & also defensive awareness. He is an excellent passer though & is a pass first PG. He is also the quickest PG in the draft. He proved that at the Draft Combine in the shuttle & cone drills.

[areobee401]

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Bol Bol and Tyler Herro if we must use our picks tomorrow. I never watch either guy play mind you, but those are the two my gut says to go with. Told me the same about Jaylon Brown and he worked out alright.

[R1zzo23]

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Ty Jerome talked about as a can’t miss late round prospect. Since we need s PG I wonder if we would consider him at 24.


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[tonybologna]

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Ty Jerome talked about as a can’t miss late round prospect. Since we need s PG I wonder if we would consider him at 24.


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We don't have the 24th pick. We have 14, 20, 22, & 51. Here's what 3 of the 5 most common mock drafts have us listed drafting come tonight:

14- Tyler Herro
20- Bol Bol
22- Bruno Fernando
51- Jalen Lecque

Unfortunately, Schofield isn't expected to make it to pick 51. Here's where he's listed as being picked:

38. Admiral Schofield- Bulls