Official Boston Celtics Thread

[jeremym480]

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late on this but i really loved what the Celtics did in the draft. I love love love the Grant Williams Pick and really liked the Carsen Edwards pick.

I'm okay with a Vuc signing. He's pretty good. His defensive numbers were surprisingly really good. but how much of that is a contract year.

the one guy I want the most is Brogdon. I dunno if I'd go max but to me he's the most underrated FA on the market. 15/5/5 on 40/50/90 sign me up.

just please do not under any circumstances bring Rozier back. take miracle playoff stats when Kyrie was injured out of your mind he is not a starting quality player. He just isn't.

I've been thinking about this all weekend and I agreed with you on Brogdon. I think he's the best fit of the three main FA PG's. He's an excellent shooter, he's play under control, he wouldn't be as ball dominate as Kemba or D-Lo, he's very solid on defense and at 6'5 teams wouldn't be able to "pick" on him as much as they would the other guys.

He should be way cheaper than Kemba and at least a few million cheaper than D-Lo, as well. So theoretically signing him should give us the the extra cap space to fill out biggest need - a starting center. Best of all, his signing elsewhere would weaken one of our biggest competitors in the East because the Bucks would have trouble replacing him, especially if they re-sign Middleton.

[jeremym480]

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The newest Celtics! I'm ready for Summer League already.

[areobee401]

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What makes anyone think D'Angelo Russell would want to play for the Celtics in the first place?

[R1zzo23]

Official Boston Celtics Thread

I’m all in for Malcolm Brogdon. I think he would be perfect for this team and would give us a tremendous defensive back court with Marcus Smart. Also having one of Smart or Brogdon on the floor with Carsen Edwards frees the rookie up to focus on shooting/scoring rather than distributing or running the offense.

John Caralis has a good big man option we could pursue: Atlanta’s Dewayne Dedmon. He rebounds, defends and shoots the three. Sure he’s not a super sexy option but he’s cost efficient and still allows us to grab a max RFA guy like Brogdon. Not sure what we would need to give Atlanta in a real for him but would be something I wouldn’t hate to explore.

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Edit - just notice Dedmon is a free agent. Even better!


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[jeremym480]

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The Celtics "insider" on RealGM is saying that we're going all in on Kemba. He also said to expect Yabu to be cut. We will see if he's legit or not in about a week.

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It's going to be a long week

[BleacherBum2310]

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The Celtics "insider" on RealGM is saying that we're going all in on Kemba. He also said to expect Yabu to be cut. We will see if he's legit or not in about a week.

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It's going to be a long week

Marc Stein also saying they are a stealth competitor for Kemba. I'm game. I'd love it. didn't think he was an option.

[tonybologna]

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The Celtics "insider" on RealGM is saying that we're going all in on Kemba. He also said to expect Yabu to be cut. We will see if he's legit or not in about a week.

Spoiler

It's going to be a long week

I thought we would go all in for one of 3 FA PG's. I didn't know which one though. The 3 in my mind & I have already talked about them are Rubio, Kemba, & Collison. No doubt Kemba is the absolute best overall option of the 3. He has the complete offensive game.

Rubio is just a great passer, decent rebounder, & defender. Not a decent shooter at all even though he's improved since coming to the NBA. I think Kemba would be a pretty solid fir for this Celtics squad.

Marc Stein also saying they are a stealth competitor for Kemba. I'm game. I'd love it. didn't think he was an option.

Oh yeah, Kemba was & has been an option but maybe people didn't think as much so because he stated he would take less money to come back to Charlotte. That still might be the case too. Maybe he ends up wanting to stay in Charlotte but why not weigh your options & see what money you can get?

We can offer him the max but he would actually get more in a max deal from Charlotte. The problem with Charlotte is they haven't indicated at all they are interested in signing Kemba to a max contract. They are wanting to bring in multiple assets & not go all in on 1 player. I posted about 2 weeks ago I thought Kemba had a 75% chance of returning to Charlotte. I'm now bringing that % back down to possibly under 50%.

Marcus Smart speaks on the state of the Celtics franchise: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...tate-franchise

[areobee401]

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Yeah, lets sign a 30-year old undersized point guard to a max contract. Stupid idea.

Prototypical panic move.

[jeremym480]

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I really like Kemba but I don't think him alone makes us a better team than last year. I think we really need a good defensive center and I'm not sure we can get one with an exception (4.6M iirc). Keith Smith did say that we could potentially get Theis back but he's just a backup, in my option.

Unfortunately, Boston is stuck in a position where they really need to spend their cap space this year because next year I don't think it be available (even if we sign 1 year deals this offseaon) due to Brown's cap-hold. If that's the case, then according to some rumors these are the types of options we may have:

1) Kemba with either a FA

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such as
Ed Davis
Dewayne Dedmon
Kenneth Faried
Enes Kanter
Robin Lopez
JaVale McGee
Joakim Noah
Kyle O'Quinn
Taj Gibson
Kevon Looney
Noah Vonleh
Vincent Poirier (Boston has expressed interest in signing him from Euro League)

/Theis/Robert Williams
2) Smart and potentially Rozier with Steven Adams (Adams would basically be a dump into our cap space since OKC is so deep into the luxury tax and looking to save $)
3) Smart and potentially Rozier with Clint Capela (if Houston needs a third team to dump Caplea if they purse Jimmy Butler)
4) Brogdon/D'Lo with Clint Capela (this would likely require a good player going back due to salary)
5) Smart and potentially Rozier with Vucevic
6) Smart with a second tier PG like Rubio with Capela (Utah Jazz of the East)


Personally, if it were possible, I'm leaning towards Brogdon and Capela. I'm ready to hand the keys over to the Jay's and let them sink or swim. Brogdon and Capela would be a great complimentary pieces to our wing heavy offense and both would be great on defense. Plus, they're younger so they would fit our timeline a little better. I really like Adams as well but if he absorb him then that means Rozier is likely our starting PG soo...

[tonybologna]

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Yeah, lets sign a 30-year old undersized point guard to a max contract. Stupid idea.

Prototypical panic move.

Kemba might be 30 years old but he just had his best season in the NBA by far. I also think he's either right at or just past him prime too. As long as Kemba stays healthy he still has 5 more really solid seasons left. I don't see a problem in us signing him to a max contract.

Don't we need a true starting PG now that Kyrie is gone? Rozier sure as heck isn't or hasn't shown the capability of being a starting PG so we should or I think must go after a top notch FA PG. Who's the best FA PG available?

That's Kemba Walker by a long shot. He knows that he wouldn't have to come to Boston & carry the load in which he's had to endure in Charlotte. He wouldn't need to score as much nor play quite as many minutes either. I sure as heck do not want Rozier end up being our starting PG but that's still certainly a possibility. I hope Rozier gets an offer that we will not match.

We can still get by @ PG without Rozier or even a FA PG but in my opinion that wouldn't be an ideal situation. That would mean Smart moves into the starting PG role. I know he can handle it but he's better suited coming off the bench & also being in there in closing situations in the 4th quarter. Even if we sign a FA PG Smart could play SG or we could have 2 PG's in there especially if it's defense that we need to close out games.

[BleacherBum2310]

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Yeah, lets sign a 30-year old undersized point guard to a max contract. Stupid idea.

Prototypical panic move.

It's a much better move than bringing Terry Back.

[areobee401]

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It's a much better move than bringing Terry Back.

I would rather have Terry given the cap ramifications. Kemba is a nice player, just not what the Celtics need right now.

[BleacherBum2310]

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I really like Kemba but I don't think him alone makes us a better team than last year. I think we really need a good defensive center and I'm not sure we can get one with an exception (4.6M iirc). Keith Smith did say that we could potentially get Theis back but he's just a backup, in my option.

Unfortunately, Boston is stuck in a position where they really need to spend their cap space this year because next year I don't think it be available (even if we sign 1 year deals this offseaon) due to Brown's cap-hold. If that's the case, then according to some rumors these are the types of options we may have:

1) Kemba with either a FA

Spoiler

such as
Ed Davis
Dewayne Dedmon
Kenneth Faried
Enes Kanter
Robin Lopez
JaVale McGee
Joakim Noah
Kyle O'Quinn
Taj Gibson
Kevon Looney
Noah Vonleh
Vincent Poirier (Boston has expressed interest in signing him from Euro League)

/Theis/Robert Williams
2) Smart and potentially Rozier with Steven Adams (Adams would basically be a dump into our cap space since OKC is so deep into the luxury tax and looking to save $)
3) Smart and potentially Rozier with Clint Capela (if Houston needs a third team to dump Caplea if they purse Jimmy Butler)
4) Brogdon/D'Lo with Clint Capela (this would likely require a good player going back due to salary)
5) Smart and potentially Rozier with Vucevic
6) Smart with a second tier PG like Rubio with Capela (Utah Jazz of the East)


Personally, if it were possible, I'm leaning towards Brogdon and Capela. I'm ready to hand the keys over to the Jay's and let them sink or swim. Brogdon and Capela would be a great complimentary pieces to our wing heavy offense and both would be great on defense. Plus, they're younger so they would fit our timeline a little better. I really like Adams as well but if he absorb him then that means Rozier is likely our starting PG soo...

Yeah I don't think being better than last year is priorty. I think they want to be a competitive/good team still though.

I'm on board that basically means Rozier is not their starting PG next year ie Kemba or even Vuc/Brogdon.

[tonybologna]

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I would rather have Terry given the cap ramifications. Kemba is a nice player, just not what the Celtics need right now.

We have plenty of CAP space since both Kyrie & Horford have now left. That took a lot of money with them & advantage for us to spend even more if needed. We could sign 2 players to max contracts & still have money to spend on some other mid-level FA's if needed. This could only happen because both Kyrie & Horford declined their options or we're not bringing them back on another contract.

[BleacherBum2310]

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We have plenty of CAP space since both Kyrie & Horford have now left. That took a lot of money with them & advantage for us to spend even more if needed. We could sign 2 players to max contracts & still have money to spend on some other mid-level FA's if needed. This could only happen because both Kyrie & Horford declined their options or we're not bringing them back on another contract.

Nah. That's actually false. They can only sign one max guy and they would have to renounce all their FA's which is not that big of a deal. I dunno what minimum/vet deals thy would have access to I'm not a cap guy lol.