Rahman vs Toney.....

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Rahman vs Toney.....

Wow, my age is getting called into question because I have facts and support at my fingertips. I am in law school, and I have learned never to argue with someone unless you know your case inside and out and you have all the facts. Lennox could have continued no doubt? Would he have won? Probably not, but fighters in a lot worse shape have come back to win in the heavyweight division before. As an undefeated champ, he earned the right to continue. The dvd is volume 4 from Lennox' career.

I only said the 10 year old age thing, because you made that silly 10 year old memory comment. You should read what you write before you post.

[thelwig14]

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I only said the 10 year old age thing, because you made that silly 10 year old memory comment. You should read what you write before you post.

I should read what I write before I post? Nice deflector. Since the fight was September 24, 1994 and we are now in 2006. Since fights are rarely shown again (and this would not have), your memory is 10 years old if you have seen it or your hearsay is 10 years old.

[RoyalBoyle78]

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I should read what I write before I post? Nice deflector. Since the fight was September 24, 1994 and we are now in 2006. Since fights are rarely shown again (and this would not have), your memory is 10 years old if you have seen it or your hearsay is 10 years old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_McCall

"Oliver McCall, born 21 April 1965 became the World Boxing Council Heavyweight Champion after knocking out Lennox Lewis in 1995"

It was 94 right...............

[thelwig14]

Re: Rahman vs Toney.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_McCall

"Oliver McCall, born 21 April 1965 became the World Boxing Council Heavyweight Champion after knocking out Lennox Lewis in 1995"

It was 94 right...............

I have never been so close to losing my manhood by wanting to add LOL......

1994
May 6 -- Phil Jackson, Atlantic City, KO 8
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Sep. 24 -- Oliver McCall, London, TKO by 2
(Lost WBC heavyweight title)

http://boxing.about.com/od/records/a/lewis.htm

24/09/94 Oliver McCall WBC Heavyweight TKO by

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3007406.stm

Your link also provides the right info if you click on Lennox and continue to read.

[ZB9]

Re: Rahman vs Toney.....

draw

[thegreatone0381]

Re: Rahman vs Toney.....

I have never been so close to losing my manhood by wanting to add LOL......

1994
May 6 -- Phil Jackson, Atlantic City, KO 8
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Sep. 24 -- Oliver McCall, London, TKO by 2
(Lost WBC heavyweight title)

http://boxing.about.com/od/records/a/lewis.htm

24/09/94 Oliver McCall WBC Heavyweight TKO by

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3007406.stm

Your link also provides the right info if you click on Lennox and continue to read.

Am I the only one that finds it funny that Lewis knocked out the Bull's headcoach (at the time)?

[aholbert32]

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Wow, my age is getting called into question because I have facts and support at my fingertips. I am in law school, and I have learned never to argue with someone unless you know your case inside and out and you have all the facts. Lennox could have continued no doubt. Would he have won? Probably not, but fighters in a lot worse shape have come back to win in the heavyweight division before. As an undefeated champ, he earned the right to continue. The dvd is volume 4 from Lennox' career.

In my opinion, it wasnt a quick stoppage. Lennox was out of it and stopping the fight wasnt out of the question. Also, just because Lampley and Merchant have a problem with it doesnt mean that it was a quick stoppage. I remember plenty of boxing writers back then who thought it was a justified stoppage.

Also, just because someone disputes or questions a stoppage doesnt mean it wasnt justified. ****, Judah complained about the stoppage in the Tzyzu fight but it was clear that the stoppage was justified.

Finally, Mr. Law Student what you are arguing isnt fact, you are arguing an opinion. You feel that Lewis was the best heavy since Ali and you feel the McCall stoppage was too quick. That doesnt make that fact. Its solely your opinion. Also, finding out that you are a law student REALLY explains why the way you interact and argue with people on this site. Let me guess...you are a first year right?

[koolbubbaice]

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Ummmm, yeah he did. The moment the non english speaking ref waived the fight Lennox immediately put his hands in the air and looked at his corner. He was undefeated, up at 5, and had his gloves below his chin. McCall probably would have beaten him, but Lennox deserved the right and earned the right for the fight to continue. Unless you can put the dvd on, have up both walk through it on the phone, then there is nothing you can say about it. You either did not see it or have not seen the fight in 10 years because you could not argue your case. He was up.

Yes, with his eyes glazed & legs looking like jello..But he was still ready to fight right.. First, Gerry Cooney is a great fighter, now this.. You need to stop living in denial..

[koolbubbaice]

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Plus, McCall has ridiculous power and anyone who watches boxing can't discredit that. Plus, the fight was stopped too early.

What are you talking about? Mccall could punch, but was never regarded as a great puncher..

[koolbubbaice]

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LOL.....you obviously have not seen it then. Lennox was up by 5 and the fight was stopped by a mexican ref that could not speak english and there were implications he was tied to King and the WBC president. Go back and watch it, the fight was stopped too early. Even the commentators believed so.

Their first Fight ended in the 2nd round..

[SC3BBall]

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I was at the Toney-Rahman fight. Everyone in the building felt Toney should have won.

[thelwig14]

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Unless one of you can go through the fight with me frame by frame, I have no interest in arguing with your memories.

[Heelfan71]

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Lewis is a great fighter but will never be ranked as one of the best. This article (from 2001) pretty much sums it up on how I feel. I liked Lewis too and I hope he doesn't mess up and try to fight again. Lewis beat Tyson and Holyfield after their skills had deminished. I'd put him behind Tyson and Holyfield.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/1662849.stm

[Complex]

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Unless one of you can go through the fight with me frame by frame, I have no interest in arguing with your memories.

Me neither, now you see why i stopped responding to you a long time ago..

[videobastard]

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Toney throughout the fight got more clean shots. If toney was in better shape he would of won this easy.