Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

Dude, Manny is great but Manny fights guys who will come forward and engage him. Anybody that has boxed with Manny, JMM both fights, EM in the first fight, has beat him or at least lost controversially. Floyd is a much better boxer than EM and better than JMM. Plus, he's naturally bigger than Pac and has hands just as fast even though he doesn't throw the wild combos Manny does. Manny deserves tons of credit for his demolition of ODLH and Hatton but Floyd's a different animal. Floyd's hands are just as quick and his defense is WAY too solid. I actually could see Floyd knocking Manny the **** out.

No Manny Fights who ever they put in front of him not hand picked opponents, PBF is an amazing talent and is more concerned about an undefeated record instead of fighting the best in a given division. In PBF last group of fights name one opponent he has fought that is good that has been in their prime you have to go back quite a ways probably back to his jlw days. Both are great fighters but they go about proving it in two different ways. The only thing exciting about PBF is his mouth I find his style of fighting rather boring, ala Hector Camacho. Camacho was great to watch when he was younger but the minute Rosario busted him on the chin he became a defense first type fighter. PBF again is probably one of the most gifted fighters ever he just chooses to take easy crap fights instead of fighting good fighters in there prime

[Dame]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

Frustrating thing about Floyd is that he could be leaving a great Legacy, but in 10 years, maybe 5, noone is even going to mention Floyd.

you can say that about a lot of fighters fighting now. I think once Pac lose he will be forgotten almost immediately. Similar to Cotto Mosely or Williams.

I agree with what you say about Floyd. I think he will retire after two fights. I think he waiting for that major payday again and thats going to be hard to find with the fighters out there today.

Floyd is going to have to realize that the general public only like people who will fight anybody regardless if it will benefit the champ Legacy or financially. Thats why the older fighters get much love because the money part wasnt like it is today so they had to fight everybody to get the money.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

you can say that about a lot of fighters fighting now. I think once Pac lose he will be forgotten almost immediately. Similar to Cotto Mosely or Williams.

I agree with what you say about Floyd. I think he will retire after two fights. I think he waiting for that major payday again and thats going to be hard to find with the fighters out there today.

Floyd is going to have to realize that the general public only like people who will fight anybody regardless if it will benefit the champ Legacy or financially. Thats why the older fighters get much love because the money part wasnt like it is today so they had to fight everybody to get the money.

Tell that to Aaron Pryor who couldn't get a fight with Leonard for whatever reason.

[fistofrage]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

Tell that to Aaron Pryor who couldn't get a fight with Leonard because Panama Lewis gave him a special mixture that gave him unlimited energy and the inability to feel pain.

Fixed.

[Darxide]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

1. Floyd has got a lot of you all fooled. He plays the heel on purpose, straight up. He knows his arrogance gets under people's skin, and they will pay to see him fight simply to possibly see him lose. Floyd is one of the coolest guys you'll ever meet, and loves his fans- even loves the fans who hate him.


2. The idea that Floyd or Manny need each other is laugh worthy. Legacy wise, both guys are set in stone. Beating Manny will only add another "name" to his resume, as he won't get a ton of credit for winning. Beating Floyd would do more for Manny, but at this point, he's done so much he'll already be an all-time great. History will be kind to both fighters. Both are first-ballot Hall of Famers, Both have a long list of accomplishments and notable opponents and wins. Could Floyd have a "better" legacy? Yea, but so what? He's got a ton more cash than Pac... Most fighters wouldn't take that trade-off, considering that Floyd's actually got a pretty good legacy.

Financially, they certainly don't need each other. Floyd's PPV run in 07 made more money than all of HBO's PPV's in 08 and 09 combined. That's insane. Pac's become a star and a national hero. The only reason people want to see this fight is because they think Pac will win. Should Floyd win, fans will write it off.

3. Floyd isn't the P4P #1, his inactivity doesn't even put him on the list, IMO. Should he beat Marquez however, then it's debatable.

[Darxide]

Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

In PBF last group of fights name one opponent he has fought that is good that has been in their prime

Ricky Hatton.

I think Hatton was a bit overrated, but he cleaned out 140 and was THE man there and lineal champ. Held a welterweight strap as well (though I had Collazo winning). He was pretty good, and certainly in his prime when Floyd beat him. I think Floyd cracked his chin and made him change up his style. His only two losses are to the best fighters of his generation.

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No Manny Fights who ever they put in front of him not hand picked opponents, PBF is an amazing talent and is more concerned about an undefeated record instead of fighting the best in a given division. In PBF last group of fights name one opponent he has fought that is good that has been in their prime you have to go back quite a ways probably back to his jlw days. Both are great fighters but they go about proving it in two different ways. The only thing exciting about PBF is his mouth I find his style of fighting rather boring, ala Hector Camacho. Camacho was great to watch when he was younger but the minute Rosario busted him on the chin he became a defense first type fighter. PBF again is probably one of the most gifted fighters ever he just chooses to take easy crap fights instead of fighting good fighters in there prime

You're an idiot who knows nothing about boxing.

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2. The idea that Floyd or Manny need each other is laugh worthy. Legacy wise, both guys are set in stone. Beating Manny will only add another "name" to his resume, as he won't get a ton of credit for winning. Beating Floyd would do more for Manny, but at this point, he's done so much he'll already be an all-time great. History will be kind to both fighters. Both are first-ballot Hall of Famers, Both have a long list of accomplishments and notable opponents and wins. Could Floyd have a "better" legacy? Yea, but so what? He's got a ton more cash than Pac... Most fighters wouldn't take that trade-off, considering that Floyd's actually got a pretty good legacy.

I disagree somewhat I think PAC needs Mayweather Since his record is already blemished with 3 losses and 2 draws. I think if he lose to Mayweather or to whomever next they will look back at Hatton and DHL and say they was washed up. They will then pick about his two fights against marquez and ridicule them.

Same thing with Margarito people(not me) just thought he was the best and hall a fame worthy after he beat Cotto (just do a search in this forum and you will see) but soon after he loss he sucked again.

Maybe that was a bad example since he cheated but I know if Pac lose to Mayweather he wont get no love. After Hatton lost it was he never really fought no one to be hall of fame material but before he was all world

I think Pac is good and is needed for the sport and should be considered great if he continues to dominate 140 even if he lose to Floyd

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

i agree.....but floyd BARELY beat an aging de la hoya. pacquiao is at the top of his game right now. and not only that, don't sleep on marquez. he may pull off an upset if floyd doesn't watch out. it make for an interesting fight. i mean, will floyd try to get a knockout to make a statement, or will he just try to get by on points to get to the superfight with manny?

If DLH was aging when he fought Floyd, what shape was he in when he fought Pac at and even lower weight class?

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

1. Floyd has got a lot of you all fooled. He plays the heel on purpose, straight up. He knows his arrogance gets under people's skin, and they will pay to see him fight simply to possibly see him lose. Floyd is one of the coolest guys you'll ever meet, and loves his fans- even loves the fans who hate him.


2. The idea that Floyd or Manny need each other is laugh worthy. Legacy wise, both guys are set in stone. Beating Manny will only add another "name" to his resume, as he won't get a ton of credit for winning. Beating Floyd would do more for Manny, but at this point, he's done so much he'll already be an all-time great. History will be kind to both fighters. Both are first-ballot Hall of Famers, Both have a long list of accomplishments and notable opponents and wins. Could Floyd have a "better" legacy? Yea, but so what? He's got a ton more cash than Pac... Most fighters wouldn't take that trade-off, considering that Floyd's actually got a pretty good legacy.

Financially, they certainly don't need each other. Floyd's PPV run in 07 made more money than all of HBO's PPV's in 08 and 09 combined. That's insane. Pac's become a star and a national hero. The only reason people want to see this fight is because they think Pac will win. Should Floyd win, fans will write it off.

3. Floyd isn't the P4P #1, his inactivity doesn't even put him on the list, IMO. Should he beat Marquez however, then it's debatable.

He beats Marquez he goes back to the top of the list.

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

If DLH was aging when he fought Floyd, what shape was he in when he fought Pac at and even lower weight class?

There's a difference between a split decision and a straight up *** kicking. But what do I know?

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

There's a difference between a split decision and a straight up *** kicking. But what do I know?

Both result in a win. But a decision in your favor trumps KO losses and Draws.

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Get'em Floyd, Marquez has a country behind him, classic

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Re: Floyd Mayweather Pretty much telling you why he's not in Fight Night

Floyd: They asked Pacquiao who he wanted to fight and he said "see my promoter".

Soooo Floyd ducking Manny?