Official Slider Discussion Thread

**dhrupick** · 07-12-2009, 06:54 PM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by acts238shaun

Yeah, they work well for me, but you can't get complacent. As sim as I can do.

As far as punch accuracy, I try to block more and time-counter less on GOAT and that works well for me as long as the speed is not higher than three. I keep the CPU to 40% or less most fights and I usually hit about the same.

Very good so far. Every fight has been between 42-48% connect for both of us. I haven't won yet, but they have all been close and the losses are my fault. My favorite sliders so far. You really need to pay attention throughout the whole fight though. Thanks!

**parker002** · 07-12-2009, 07:43 PM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by dhrupick

Very good so far. Every fight has been between 42-48% connect for both of us. I haven't won yet, but they have all been close and the losses are my fault. My favorite sliders so far. You really need to pay attention throughout the whole fight though. Thanks!

You guys must be out of this world with the right stick - 42% connect rate for the CPU is impossible for me.

**Tycobbler** · 07-12-2009, 11:01 PM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Pretty easy to fight. "Ding" "Ding"
Move close hold L1 move up/down with left thumb stick to bob and weave, swing right thumb stick up + right for a head shot, then immediately hit R1 + left thumb stick up to block your head, R1 + left thumb stick down to block your body.
Rinse & repeat.

Simple. I land between 55-70% of my punches, gain points for my blocks and get a stun or two on my opponet every match.

**parker002** · 07-12-2009, 11:17 PM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Tycobbler

Pretty easy to fight. "Ding" "Ding"
Move close hold L1 move up/down with left thumb stick to bob and weave, swing right thumb stick up + right for a head shot, then immediately hit R1 + left thumb stick up to block your head, R1 + left thumb stick down to block your body.
Rinse & repeat.

Simple. I land between 55-70% of my punches, gain points for my blocks and get a stun or two on my opponet every match.

I know how to play, good freaking God. And I don't have any problem at all landing punches. I'm good for about 50-55% on Champion with CPU Defensive Awareness maxed out. I also probably land 1 to 2 counters a round.

The problem is that 1) he can't miss to the body, punches go right through my blocks and 2) if he gets lucky and catches me with a counter, I'm done.

One punch is all it takes to go from complete domination to getting knocked out. I wouldn't even have a problem with it if it were a freak occurrence, but it happens EVERY freaking fight. He catches me with one clean punch and it's over, even if I've completely dominated the entire fight and have his stamina and health depleted way down.

It also might be different if I could do it to the CPU, but I've NEVER seen (on Champion or higher) the CPU not get up on the first or second knockdown. I can't EVER get up after the first. If I get knocked down twice, the fight is 100% guaranteed over.

**Wesman** · 07-12-2009, 11:33 PM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by parker002

I know how to play, good freaking God. And I don't have any problem at all landing punches. I'm good for about 50-55% on Champion with CPU Defensive Awareness maxed out. I also probably land 1 to 2 counters a round.

The problem is that 1) he can't miss to the body, punches go right through my blocks and 2) if he gets lucky and catches me with a counter, I'm done.

One punch is all it takes to go from complete domination to getting knocked out. I wouldn't even have a problem with it if it were a freak occurrence, but it happens EVERY freaking fight. He catches me with one clean punch and it's over, even if I've completely dominated the entire fight and have his stamina and health depleted way down.

It also might be different if I could do it to the CPU, but I've NEVER seen (on Champion or higher) the CPU not get up on the first or second knockdown. I can't EVER get up after the first. If I get knocked down twice, the fight is 100% guaranteed over.

I do not have this problem... Maybe its chin, heart, head and body toughness or stamina related?

**Wesman** · 07-13-2009, 12:02 AM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

I think it may be a stat error more than anything - I just did a fight and paid special attention to the body punches I took - I blocked most of them, as evident by the damage and stamina loss I took, but it says he landed 42/67 which is 62%. I know he did not get me that much - he just didnt.

**DiceMan** · 07-13-2009, 12:03 AM

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I'm still liking parker's sliders but I am starting to get frustrated with the higher power. I have lost 4 fights by KO to lesser fighters than myself and I mean way lesser. I have had these guys guys beaten in categories such as power, chin head/body toughness, etc and I'm still taking loses by KO. To make it worse in a couple of fights I put the guys down on the canvas a couple of times. I started my legacy 5-1-1 and I'm now 6-5-1. I may have to drop toughness because with the shots I'm hittin some these cats with they shouldn't be getting up. I have never had a fight where the cpu doesn't get up at least twice after a knockdown.

**War24** · 07-13-2009, 12:49 AM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

What ever happened to a game being just right when you buy it? Wait for release, wait for an update, this **** is getting old. Spend more time on sliders than playing the game. Hope we do not have to go through the same **** with Madden.

**Wesman** · 07-13-2009, 01:09 AM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by War24

What ever happened to a game being just right when you buy it? Wait for release, wait for an update, this **** is getting old. Spend more time on sliders than playing the game. Hope we do not have to go through the same **** with Madden.

We dont have to go through that crap now. Its like a personality disorder. Some people (myself included) will actually ruin a good game striving for perfection in what they consider to be the most realistic sliders imaginable.

Myself, I have been playing parkers sliders. I love them. The only thing I have done is lowered the physical damage. I might lower the power back to 6 or 5, but so far I'm good. I dont think I'll be making any adjustments after that.

We HAVE to get past this, no game is perfect, and no sliders will change that. They might help, but they are only going to do so much.

Find a set you can live with, that are fun, challenging, but wont make you mad. Stick with it and just PLAY.

I am so tired of spending the better part of a year looking for the "perfect sliders" for games. I have done it the last two years with madden and ncaa football. I finally just recently got my ncaa football sliders to where I love them, and probably wont buy the new game because im still enjoying the old one so much.

Come on guys, the game isnt broken - the sliders work, some additional sliders may be added, but they wont fix everyones problems either, and then people will want another list of sliders added - dont forget the "multiple knockdown before KO" slider...

Just get a set you have fun with and is semi realistic - make a few gameplay sacrafices to maximize your fun and just PLAY.

**Wesman** · 07-13-2009, 08:50 AM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

lol, me working my best Pernell.

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**parker002** · 07-13-2009, 11:12 AM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by DiceMan

I'm still liking parker's sliders but I am starting to get frustrated with the higher power. I have lost 4 fights by KO to lesser fighters than myself and I mean way lesser. I have had these guys guys beaten in categories such as power, chin head/body toughness, etc and I'm still taking loses by KO. To make it worse in a couple of fights I put the guys down on the canvas a couple of times. I started my legacy 5-1-1 and I'm now 6-5-1. I may have to drop toughness because with the shots I'm hittin some these cats with they shouldn't be getting up. I have never had a fight where the cpu doesn't get up at least twice after a knockdown.

You're losing to a well-timed counter, aren't you? Same thing happened to me. Drop toughness at your own peril, I've found that it actually makes the problem worse. The counter punch is way too overpowered and that's really the bottom line.

To compound the problem, taking a step down from Champion to Pro doesn't equal things out, it REVERSES the problem. You go from getting knocked out by the counter every fight to knocking everybody out with a counter.

**parker002** · 07-13-2009, 11:15 AM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Wesman

We dont have to go through that crap now. Its like a personality disorder. Some people (myself included) will actually ruin a good game striving for perfection in what they consider to be the most realistic sliders imaginable.

Myself, I have been playing parkers sliders. I love them. The only thing I have done is lowered the physical damage. I might lower the power back to 6 or 5, but so far I'm good. I dont think I'll be making any adjustments after that.

We HAVE to get past this, no game is perfect, and no sliders will change that. They might help, but they are only going to do so much.

Find a set you can live with, that are fun, challenging, but wont make you mad. Stick with it and just PLAY.

I am so tired of spending the better part of a year looking for the "perfect sliders" for games. I have done it the last two years with madden and ncaa football. I finally just recently got my ncaa football sliders to where I love them, and probably wont buy the new game because im still enjoying the old one so much.

Come on guys, the game isnt broken - the sliders work, some additional sliders may be added, but they wont fix everyones problems either, and then people will want another list of sliders added - dont forget the "multiple knockdown before KO" slider...

What's funny is that I finally got past this "slider syndrome" with NCAA Football. The shame is that I just stopped playing it altogether. I haven't bought the game for 2 years and I won't be buying 10 next week either.

Originally posted by Wesman

Just get a set you have fun with and is semi realistic - make a few gameplay sacrafices to maximize your fun and just PLAY.

I'm there man. I'm playing on Pro and dealing with the fact that I'm too good for it. Better that than breaking my controller or something because of the frustration on Champion.

**parker002** · 07-13-2009, 11:16 AM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Wesman

lol, me working my best Pernell.

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Pretty easy to defend yourself when your opponent doesn't throw any punches!

**parker002** · 07-13-2009, 11:19 AM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Wesman

I do not have this problem... Maybe its chin, heart, head and body toughness or stamina related?

I play almost exclusively in Fight Now mode so I don't know. I would think a guy like Diego Corrales can get up more than once...

**DiceMan** · 07-13-2009, 11:24 AM

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Originally posted by parker002

You're losing to a well-timed counter, aren't you? Same thing happened to me. Drop toughness at your own peril, I've found that it actually makes the problem worse. The counter punch is way too overpowered and that's really the bottom line.

To compound the problem, taking a step down from Champion to Pro doesn't equal things out, it REVERSES the problem. You go from getting knocked out by the counter every fight to knocking everybody out with a counter.

Yea it was my problem somwhat but not always. My bigger problem I think is blocking bodyshots like yourself. CPU is usually connecting at an 80% clip though they usually don't throw more than 100 punches to the body in my fights. I'm gonna try toughness at 3 for a bit and see of that works. If not I may try going back to default or your original setting of 4 for power and 2 for toughness.

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